when will the most evil doctrin in the world get banned on this site.

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rogerg

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We are on page 35! I'm late to the party. But I want to say this, eternal security is not apart of my Christian background. And it's probably the reason why I constantly doubt my salvation. I've been trying to studying eternal security, to see if it could be true. I would love it, if it were true, then I wouldn't always be scared of going hell every time I struggled with a sin issue.
It may be counter-intuitive to say this, and I'm sure many will disagree with it, but I think the fear you express is a very good thing.
Not because it will cease you from sinning necessarily, but because it is usually a first step God uses for someone who has become saved/born-again to draw them nearer to Christ as Saviour. It should move you to greater study in/of the word so that you can become familiar and more comfortable with the gospel. Those who actually are in great spiritual danger are they who are unconcerned about their salvation, or who believe God will save them based upon their own works. Pray to the Holy Spirit for wisdom.
If you can, trust that Christ and Christ alone is the Saviour in all respects - that He alone is the one who can save.
 

GRACE_ambassador

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We are on page 35! I'm late to the party. But I want to say this, eternal security is not apart of my Christian background. And it's probably the reason why I constantly doubt my salvation. I've been trying to studying eternal security, to see if it could be true. I would love it, if it were true, then I wouldn't always be scared of going hell every time I struggled with a sin issue.
Precious friend, as long as we have breath in this life, it is not "too late."
If you have reviewed/understood post # 699, then these studies should
help with your assurance of God's ETERNAL Salvation:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!
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God's FREE Gift Of ETERNAL Life!

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified!
 

Underwhosewings

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Genesis 22:1-2,11-12 KJV
And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am.
[2] And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.
[11] And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I.
[12] And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me.
 

montana123

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I know we have had hyper grace banned here and sinless perfection considered a bad doctrin and probably banned.

Once saved always saved is finaly getting abolished by alot of churches, because it gives people a liscence to sin or makes people become a law unto them selfs.

However there is no condemnation for those in christ and we make mistakes, and we makes mistakes following bad doctrins.

The twisted doctrins of the law does not matter is also another doctrin from hell.

But the biggest most biggest most evil doctrin from hell is the one that says God allows evil to tempt or test people into sin, or God allows evil to test humans to see if they will sin. for many reasons but just one brief insight, is evil will always try to justify its presence, by saying God sent me, why well evil wants to defile Gods holy word.

Every good place we here from Jesus our mesiah, it is a big no no for christians and i have to wonder If christians or people are following the direct words of our mesisah, and why there is many many scripture that suggest Jesus would not allow evil to tempt a humanbeing into sin but yet 30 scriptures telling the truth against one telling a lie is not enough to convince christians or people that Jesus does not work satan,
Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

God does not tempt any person to sin, and does not cause evil to tempt or test people in to sin.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Speaking of OSAS.

The Bible plainly says any person can have salvation.

People should understand what the Bible is saying.

The saints predestined to salvation does not mean God chose in the beginning for them to be saved, and they do not choose salvation.

It means God already had the plan to give mankind salvation before He laid down the foundation of the world, so it is the same as if they have salvation in the beginning although they chose that salvation later on.

For the Bible says God calls things that have not happened yet, as though it already happened, for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning, for it will surely come to pass with no hindrance.

The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, and the prophets blood was shed from the foundation of the world, although they were future events.

It is the same with the saints being predestined to salvation which they have salvation from the foundation of the world, but it is a future event when they choose salvation.

No one says Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

No person comes to the Son unless the Father draws them.

Many are called but few are chosen.

When God calls a person He will work in their life to get them to the truth, and when they get to the door of truth they have to choose to enter through the door of truth, because we have to choose our salvation because God's kingdom is true love, not robotic love, but we would of not of gotten to the door of truth unless God intervened in our life.

The Bible says some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

But the Bible says a Spirit led life will abstain from sin.

They never come to the truth to abstain from sin led by the Spirit.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 

Blade

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Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

God does not tempt any person to sin, and does not cause evil to tempt or test people in to sin.

1Ti 2:3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
1Ti 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Rev 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Act 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Speaking of OSAS.

The Bible plainly says any person can have salvation.

People should understand what the Bible is saying.

The saints predestined to salvation does not mean God chose in the beginning for them to be saved, and they do not choose salvation.

It means God already had the plan to give mankind salvation before He laid down the foundation of the world, so it is the same as if they have salvation in the beginning although they chose that salvation later on.

For the Bible says God calls things that have not happened yet, as though it already happened, for if it is a plan of God to happen in the future it is the same as if it happened in the beginning, for it will surely come to pass with no hindrance.

The Lamb was slain from the foundation of the world, and the prophets blood was shed from the foundation of the world, although they were future events.

It is the same with the saints being predestined to salvation which they have salvation from the foundation of the world, but it is a future event when they choose salvation.

No one says Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

No person comes to the Son unless the Father draws them.

Many are called but few are chosen.

When God calls a person He will work in their life to get them to the truth, and when they get to the door of truth they have to choose to enter through the door of truth, because we have to choose our salvation because God's kingdom is true love, not robotic love, but we would of not of gotten to the door of truth unless God intervened in our life.

The Bible says some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

But the Bible says a Spirit led life will abstain from sin.

They never come to the truth to abstain from sin led by the Spirit.

2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
I love song that just started.. I know you won't, I know you wont let me go". When we start to love the one that is least of us... then were starting to live as Christ did. Its always about someone else not our favorite Church or doctrine but those we tend to toss under the buss. As a Prophet I quote some times said in the late 50's when there were so many denominations there "there is allot of different doctrines here today but none touch the one that mattes most" That was they all were there for Christ they all loved Jesus.