What is the point in being a prophet?

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notuptome

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God is no respecter of persons. Jews & gentiles received the baptism in the Holy Spirit. Did you forget gentile Cornelius' house?
Have you ever read about the church at Corinth..... predominately gentile church improperly exercising the gifts?

Paul NEVER separated the gentiles from the Jews when explaining anything about the gifts.

The Jews & gentiles are one in Christ.

You are exactly what I was talking about..... you have no idea what the Bible says on the gifts, nor the Holy Spirit Baptism.

Revelation 22:8-9 (NASB)
[SUP]8 [/SUP]I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. [SUP]9 [/SUP]But he *said to me, "Do not do that. I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book. Worship God."
You are all over the place but you are not on point. Your judgment is impaired by your negative emotions. All your seminary training is lost in the red cloud of anger toward the God revelation.

Paul always went to the Jews first when entering a city and preached to them first. When they kicked him out he went to the gentiles.

Ac 19:8 And he went into the synagogue , and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the kingdom of God.

For the cause of Christ
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psalm6819

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So, what's the prophecy? why the need for the build up? please enlighten the rest of us
 

valiant

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@voiceinthewilderness

So, what's the prophecy? why the need for the build up? please enlighten the rest of us
The main point of a New Testament prophet is to proclaim the present not the future. We are all 'prophets'. Why should we need to know more of the future than God has already shown us?
 

Wall

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This is the prophecy and the message the Lord revealed to me over 10 years ago and His Spirit has impressed upon me to share: In the Bible, in the book of Revelation, God talks about Mystery Babylon. America is Babylon. And God has raised up Russia to destroy Babylon (America) in divine judgment - COMPLETELY. After the destruction of America, the Great Tribulation Jesus warned about will begin.
Thats not a stretch as far as the Word goes.

EZEKIEL 20 [12] Moreover also I GAVE THEM MY SABBATHS, TO BE A SIGN between me and them, that they might know THAT I AM THE LORD THAT SANCTIFY THEM.

The sabbath is a sign between God and his people that the “Lord does sanctify them”.

ISAIAH 66 [15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.[17] THEY THAT SANCTIFY THEMSELVES, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, EATING SWINE'S FLESH, and the abomination, and the mouse, SHALL BE CONSUMED together, saith the LORD.

Above is a Day of the Lord scripture. Anyways, if THE SABBATH IS A SIGN THAT GOD SANCTIFYS YOU. Who are those that “sanctify themselves”? 99% or more of the churches in US do not keep Gods sabbath day. The Word says they who sanctify themselves will be consumed. Russia? They are capable
 

Dino246

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Isaiah 8 is another thing that has been constantly pointed to me and constantly required of me to say when it comes to many discussions

For in the end many will look to any other spirit who whispers and mutters...

Read it and understand that TO HOLD TO THE TESTIMONY of JESUS and not to go out from HIM...not by the sword, not uproot, not avenge, is sufficient and will be sufficient in the last days...
This part of Isaiah 8 is talking about spiritists and soothsayers, those who engage in divination. It's not about those who sense they are called of God to give testimony about Jesus. It seems that you are simply despising prophecy. What is your take on 1 Corinthians 14:1?
 
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This is what I'm talking about. Even if I spend the time to lay it out verse by verse and show you and everyone else the overwhelming truth of what I'm talking about, no one will believe me. This event will be so great and earth-shaking and world-changing that is foretold throughout the Bible many times. Upon request, I will show hundreds of Bible verses that lay out what I'm saying and what it all means, but if a person has already made up their mind not to believe, the truth matters little.

Humor me, pretend what I say is in fact a prophecy from the Living God and confirmed by His word (if you cannot allow yourself to believe), and tell me what good it is to be a prophet? No one will listen and no one will believe. I end up being the mad man of Hosea 9:7.

I'm not crazy, nor do I attend a church that preaches this message. My church is non-denominational and although we talk about the symptoms of our decadent culture, we don't typically bring up end-times prophecy as though we were living in those times. This is not something my church would want me to preach.

I hope I don't sound like I have an attitude, I've known these things for 10 years and knew from the first time the Lord revealed it to me that in the end, I would have to preach to people about the truth of Babylon. I'm surprised He has given us so much time really. As the years have went by, I've spoken about these things little by little and I have always met disbelief. No one has been able to accept the truth of this message. Simple people rarely know the Bible well enough to understand all the scriptures speaking about the things to come. And most, it seems, do not really care.

What good were any of the prophets in the end? Israel was still carried away into Babylon. Nineveh was eventually destroyed.

Jonah knew what God was going to do and He ran away. I can relate.
The problem is I can go through verse by verse too. (one left in the field, one left on a roof. Gog and Agog. etc.) I know them because they're the same one used back during the Cold War and I was a new believer. Then Russia became Iran. And then the Middle East. Now ISIL. It really does change according to the current events.

As for why Jonah ran away? Not because he feared no one would believe him. Because he was afraid they would believe him. Nineveh was to Jonah what ISIL is to Nice -- THE enemy that killed his people. Who wants the man who murdered his family to be forgiven by God when he's not even ready to forgive the murderer?
 
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@voiceinthewilderness

So, what's the prophecy? why the need for the build up? please enlighten the rest of us
Post #74. He already gave it. (And he delayed on account of going to work, picking up his child, and being Dad.)
 
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voiceinthewild

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It may take me a few days to put the full account together for y'all because I want it to be as complete and understandable as I can make it. When I'm finished, it will be around 4500 words long - which is a LOT to read. If you're willing to read the entire thing, you will know the whole story. I gave you the condensed prophecy. The fulfillment is a more elaborate understanding of what God is going to do. Layers upon layers. Affirmation upon affirmation.
 

Zmouth

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Obviously they are well-rounded, you definitely can't call them squares. I doubt one can find better retirement benefits. But honestly I can't help but think it has something to do with John 14:17.
 

JaumeJ

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Perhaps some need to see it in print?

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

This tells me that even a child who knows and loves Jesus is bestowed with the spirit of prophecy.
 

tanakh

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There are no real Prophets aka Isaiah, Jeremiah any more. Some claim to be Prophets. The point in their case is so that
they can get some cred in their local church and have people say ''There goes Methuselah Simpson, hes a reel Prophet''
 
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Those whom God has ordained as prophets have the same job as they did even in the OT. God's prophets warn His people, and speak to them so they may turn from their sin or error.
 

JaumeJ

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Nogt all prophets are given to foretell events, but all are given to repeat the words of our Fahter. Some simply praise God. Being a prophet does not mean all are like Isaiah or Ezekiel.

Saul was "among the prophets," and many more.

Just as anyone today can be an apostle or disciple, but none will ever be the same as the original Twelve who have the foundations of the HOly Cisy with their names.........

I am a prophet and apostle, but do not expect me to do any more than repeat what is already written, and very little more.............. The same goes for all our brothers and sister..........
 
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Perhaps some need to see it in print?

Rev 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

This tells me that even a child who knows and loves Jesus is bestowed with the spirit of prophecy.
Thanks that’s a great verse to help us understand how to define the word prophet or prophesying. All believers are prophets as a Kingdom of priests. It seems that defining the word is where many differences come in. Changing the meaning of one word can change the whole direction as to the intent of the author.

The spirit of prophecy , is the spirit of Christ. He is the anointing Holy Spirit of God as is recognized as the same spirit of one faith according as it is written below.

2Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

The same or mutual spirit of faith is of Christ.

Through it in respect to it we are given the faith of God to believe God. Because we have the faith of Christ we speak the words of Christ. Paul says as it is written he believed and therefore speaks the word of God. and through that same mutual spirit of Christ’s faith all of Christianity speaks , as the proper manner of prophecy .

To prophecy is simply to declare the existing word of God . It informs us he is no longer bring any new revelations. What we can know about the past and future has been made known .Adding to it would simply be guessing or fortune telling. the scriptures call it soothsaying: with a spirit of divination.

Guessing is not prophesying

As you did say..; "This tells me that even a child who knows and loves Jesus is bestowed with the spirit of prophecy".. This tells us that even a child who knows and loves Jesus is bestowed with the spirit of prophecy.. our agreement is with his spirit of faith not with us.
 

p_rehbein

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Found this Article. Don't know anything about the Site or the people who operate the Site, just F.Y.I. with regards to what the role of a prophet is.......

(excerpt)

A prophet is a spokesperson for God. The prophet admonishes, warns, directs, encourages, intercedes, teaches and counsels. He brings the word of God to the people of God and calls the people to respond.
The prophetic ministry begins in the presence of the Lord. This aspect of the ministry is well described in Jeremiah's challenge to the false prophets.
Which of them has stood in the council of the Lord to see or to hear his word? If they had stood in his council they would have proclaimed his words to his people and they would have turned from their evil ways and from their evil deeds. Jeremiah 23:18,22.

(found here)

Role of a Prophet - Kingdom Watcher
 

miknik5

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Thats not a stretch as far as the Word goes.

EZEKIEL 20 [12] Moreover also I GAVE THEM MY SABBATHS, TO BE A SIGN between me and them, that they might know THAT I AM THE LORD THAT SANCTIFY THEM.

The sabbath is a sign between God and his people that the “Lord does sanctify them”.

ISAIAH 66 [15] For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.[16] For by fire and by his sword will the LORD plead with all flesh: and the slain of the LORD shall be many.[17] THEY THAT SANCTIFY THEMSELVES, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, EATING SWINE'S FLESH, and the abomination, and the mouse, SHALL BE CONSUMED together, saith the LORD.

Above is a Day of the Lord scripture. Anyways, if THE SABBATH IS A SIGN THAT GOD SANCTIFYS YOU. Who are those that “sanctify themselves”? 99% or more of the churches in US do not keep Gods sabbath day. The Word says they who sanctify themselves will be consumed. Russia? They are capable
Has the Lord sanctified Himself for us? And are those who are in Christ sanctified provided they remain in Him and do not progress above/ "go out" from Him?
 

miknik5

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In response to the one questioning Isaiah 8

This was a forwarning sir to all who listen to spirits but do not listen to GOD whose Truth does not change

And those who hold to "The Testimony" understand just as God explained "do not put your hopes and trust in men. Of what account is man for the head of remaking is but a son"

You see. Ahaz listened to every and other spirit but God and in his foolishness he feigns humility and when GOD HIMSELF will give Ahaz a sign he covers his ears and says I will not ask GOD for a sign?

"Why must we (continue) to weary OUR GOD?"

And what exactly was the sign?


We will all find it and remember it in Isaiah 7


Please review the theme of Isaiah 1-8

Itchy ears will always be itchy ears
And the question who will cause "Ahab" to fall is the very same thing that will cause "Ahsb" to fall
For if you will remember Ahab was another king who gathered to him false prophet who would prophecy what he wanted to hear but as for Michaiah the man of GOD?

Ahab hated him because he never had a thing good to prophecy about him
 
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voiceinthewild

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I hope this has been edited well enough. I’ve looked through it a few times and may have missed a thing or two.
First, let me explain to an important thing that is tantamount to understanding what will happen. America is Babylon and, after her destruction, the eight (and last) head of Babylon is the Beast [Russia]. Because Babylon is represented by different kingdoms at different times throughout the Bible, every Babylon’s end is the same: destruction. The interesting thing is, throughout the Bible, scriptures that discuss the destruction of Babylon are all prophetic and although they refer to different Babylons, in some cases they refer to all Babylons (I hope I can make that statement clearer by the time I’m done.)
Secondly, The Beast is one man and one kingdom with many names in the Bible. The Beast is the Russian kingdom led, most probably, by Vladimir Putin. Most people refer to this person as “AntiChrist”, but that is misleading at face value. His first motive is not to kill the saints or to destroy them, his motive is absolute authoritarian rule – going so far as to destroy the world and mankind to quench his thirst for power. He will eventually overpower and bring into submission every type of worship and government that is against him and will crush all that oppose him until his end. This will cause the death of many/most of Christ’s saints and faithful believers and many Jews as well. Gog, the son of perdition, the King of (the eighth and last) Babylon in Isaiah 14:3-23, Abaddon, Apollyon, The Destroyer, the Fourth Beast/Kingdom of Daniel 7:7, The King of the North, The Abomination of Desolation – all these are the names of the man/kingdom responsible for destroying the Earth throughout Jesus’ Apocalypse. Even when these scriptures were speaking of other things in the Bible, they were the foreshadowing of this man/kingdom to come. Daniel 7:7 “After this I saw in the night visions, and behold, a fourth beast, terrifying and dreadful and exceedingly strong. It had great iron teeth; it devoured and broke in pieces and stamped what was left with its feet. It was different from all the beasts that were before it, and it had ten horns.”
With that in mind, let me begin my explanation:
Rev 6:1 I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.
[This rider is the president of Russia. At this time, it is Vladimir Putin. He has been given a bow. His bow is the strategic nuclear forces of bombers, submarines, and ICBMS. His arrows are the nuclear missiles.]
Rev 6:12-17 I watched as the Lamb opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth, the whole moon turned blood red, and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”
[This is the nuclear destruction of America, the seventh head of Babylon by the Beast and his coalition of willing kings. This event is so significant, it is considered one of the seal’s of Jesus’ Apocalypse. It brings to an end the beginning of sorrows and ushers in the Great Tribulation.
For America, this Mystery Babylon, her destruction will come as a thief in the night and it will come swiftly. This is the Word of the Lord (it is important to note that these are not the full account of the scriptures here – only the ones pertinent to America’s coming judgment).]


Isaiah 13 This is the prophecy against Babylon: Raise a banner on a bare hilltop, shout to them; beckon to them to enter the gates of the nobles. I have commanded those I prepared for battle; I have summoned my warriors to carry out my wrath – those who rejoice in my triumph.
Listen, a noise on the mountains, like that of a great multitude! like nations massing together! The Lord Almighty is mustering an army for war. They come from faraway lands, from the ends of the heavens [the other side of the world] – the Lord and the weapons of his wrath – to destroy the whole country [nuclear weapons].
Wail, for the day of the Lord is near; it will come like destruction from the Almighty [as stated in Rev 6:12-17]. Because of this, all hands will go limp, every heart will melt with fear. Terror will seize them, pain and anguish will grip them; They will look aghast at each other, their faces aflame. [The absolute reality and fear that will grip Americans as they realize they are about to be destroyed in nuclear holocaust. People will faint and die from fear.]
See, the day of the Lord is coming—a cruel day, with wrath and fierce anger—to make the land desolate and destroy the sinners within it. The stars of heaven and their constellations will not show their light. The rising sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light. I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins [as stated in Rev 6:12-17, Joel 2:31, Acts 2:20, and Matthew 4:29]. I will put an end to the arrogance of the proud and will humble the pride of the ruthless.
I will make people scarcer than pure gold, Therefore I will make the heavens tremble; and the earth will shake from its place at the wrath of the Lord Almighty, in the day of his burning anger. [nuclear holocaust and it’s earth-shattering effects]
Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives violated. Their bows [nuclear missiles] will strike down the young men; they will have no mercy on infants, nor will they look with compassion on children [all of our children will die before our eyes]. Babylon, the jewel of kingdoms, the pride and glory of the Babylonians, will be overthrown by God like Sodom and Gomorrah [completely]. She will never be inhabited or lived in through all generations; Her time is at hand, and her days will not be prolonged.
Isaiah 47 “Go down, sit in the dust, Virgin Daughter Babylon; sit on the ground without a throne, queen city of the Babylonians. Your nakedness will be exposed and your shame uncovered. I will take vengeance; I will spare no one [no one!].”
Our Redeemer—the Lord Almighty is his name—is the Holy One of Israel.
“Now then, listen, you lover of pleasure, lounging in your security and saying to yourself, ‘I am, and there is none besides me. I will never be a widow or suffer the loss of children.’ [American attitude of “it can’t happen here”] Both of these will overtake you in a moment, on a single day: loss of children and widowhood. They will come upon you in full measure, in spite of your many sorceries and all your potent spells.
You have trusted in your wickedness; disaster will come upon you, and you will not know how to conjure it away. A calamity will fall upon you that you cannot ward off with a ransom; a catastrophe you cannot foresee will suddenly come upon you. All the counsel you have received has only worn you out! Let your astrologers come forward, those stargazers who make predictions month by month, let them save you from what is coming upon you. Surely they are like stubble; the fire will burn them up. They cannot even save themselves from the power of the [nuclear] flame. There is not one that can save you. [None of the wise Americans or their missile defense shields or their international hacking and spying, none of the daily horoscope writers, none of the other multitude of seers and fortune-tellers will be able to foresee or defend against God’s hand of judgment.]
Revelation 16 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the punishment of the great prostitute, who sits by many waters. With her the kings of the earth committed adultery, and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries.”
Then the angel carried me away in the Spirit into a wilderness. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns. The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. The name written on her forehead was a mystery:
babylon the great
the mother of prostitutes
and of the abominations of the earth.
Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages [America’s the melting pot of the world and the greatest military conqueror of all time with military bases in over a hundred nations]. The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute [the Beast is the Russian kingdom]. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire [with nuclear weapons]. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled [God has put it in their hearts!]. The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth [with our magic spell and idol called ‘The Almighty Dollar’].”
Lament Over Fallen Babylon
Revelation 18 After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven. He had great authority, and the earth was illuminated by his splendor. With a mighty voice he shouted: ‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great! She has become a dwelling for demons and a haunt for every impure spirit, unclean bird, and every unclean and detestable animal. For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries [what other country can that be said about besides America?].”
Warning to Escape Babylon’s Judgment
Then I heard another voice from heaven say: ‘Come out of her, my people, so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues; for her sins are piled up to heaven, and God has remembered her crimes. Give back to her as she has given; pay her back double for what she has done. In her heart she boasts, ‘I sit enthroned as queen. I am not a widow; I will never mourn.’ [Again, the American attitude – some of you reading this right now are saying the exact same thing in your mind.] Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her: death, mourning and famine. She will be consumed by fire, for mighty is the Lord God who judges her. [Consumed by nuclear fire in one day.]
Threefold Woe Over Babylon’s Fall
“When the kings of the earth who committed adultery with her and shared her luxury see the smoke of her burning, they will weep and mourn over her. Terrified at her torment, they will stand far off [nuclear radiation] and cry: ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city, you mighty city of Babylon! In one hour your doom has come!’ [Doom in ONE HOUR] “The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes anymore. “They will say, ‘The fruit you longed for is gone from you. All your luxury and splendor have vanished, never to be recovered.’ The merchants who sold these things and gained their wealth from her will stand far off, terrified at her torment [nuclear radiation and destruction]. They will weep and mourn and cry out: ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city, In one hour such great wealth has been brought to ruin!’ [In ONE HOUR, all the wealth of America, brought to ruin!]
“Every sea captain, and all who travel by ship, the sailors, and all who earn their living from the sea, will stand far off [they stand far off for fear of the nuclear radiation]. When they see the smoke of her burning, they will exclaim, ‘Was there ever a city like this great city?’ They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out: ‘Woe! Woe to you, great city, where all who had ships on the sea became rich through her wealth! [all who had ships became rich through her wealth – there exists only one economic superpower like that in the world] In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’ [ONE HOUR – it was stated three times in the passage to verify the absolute certainty of it]
The Finality of Babylon’s Doom
Then a mighty angel picked up a boulder the size of a large millstone and threw it into the sea, and said: “With such violence the great city of Babylon will be thrown down, never to be found again. The music of musicians, will never be heard in you again. No worker of any trade will ever be found in you again. The sound of a millstone will never be heard in you again. The light of a lamp will never shine in you again. The voice of bridegroom and bride will never be heard in you again. Your merchants were the world’s important people. By your magic spell all the nations were led astray. [the destruction is complete destruction]
 
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[h=3]A Message About Babylon[/h] Jeremiah 50 “Announce and proclaim among the nations, lift up a banner and proclaim it; keep nothing back, but say, ‘Babylon will be captured; Her images will be put to shame and her idols filled with terror.’ [“her images” brings Hollywood to mind, and her idols are all those people exalted and worshipped in “her images” (celebrities, politicians, athletes, entertainers, etc.)]
A nation from the north will attack her and lay waste her land [the King of the North]. No one will live in it; both people and animals will flee away.
“In those days, at that time,” declares the Lord, “the people of Israel and the people of Judah together will go in tears to seek the Lord their God.They will ask the way to Zion and turn their faces toward it. They will come and bind themselves to the Lord in an everlasting covenant that will not be forgotten. [There will soon come an ensign – if it is not this prophecy itself – that will call the Jews home to Israel.]
“Flee out of Babylon; leave the land of the Babylonians, For I will stir up and bring against Babylon an alliance of great nations from the land of the north [the Beast and his alliance of 10 nations]. They will take up their positions against her, and from the north she will be captured. Their arrows [nuclear missiles] will be like skilled warriors. Because of the Lord’s anger she will not be inhabited but will be completely desolate. [completely desolate]
“Take up your positions around Babylon, all you who draw the bow. [the nuclear armed enemies of America] Shoot at her! Spare no arrows [that’s a lot of nuclear missiles], for she has sinned against the Lord. Shout against her on every side! She surrenders, her towers fall, her walls are torn down. Since this is the vengeance of the Lord, take vengeance on her; do to her as she has done to others.[America has nuked other countries and America has bombed and killed innocents all around the globe. Even our innocent children will reap what our country has sown.] Pursue, kill and completely destroy them,”declares the Lord. “Do everything I have commanded you.” [This destruction and death comes from the Lord.]

The noise of battle is in the land, the noise of great destruction! [imagine the noise of hundreds of nuclear missiles destroying America]How broken and shattered is the hammer of the whole earth! How desolate is Babylon among the nations!I set a trap for you, Babylon, and you were caught before you knew it; you were found and captured because you opposed the Lord. [that’s why Russia and the other nations will prevail – the Lord has set the trap. Who can foresee God’s trap?]
The Lord has opened his arsenal and brought out the weapons of his wrath [nuclear weapons], for the Sovereign Lord Almighty has work to do in the land of the Babylonians. Come against her from afar. Completely destroy her and leave her no remnant. Woe to them! For their day has come, the time for them to be punished.
“Summon archers [nuclear missiles fire like arrows from a bow with arching trajectories] against Babylon, all those who draw the bow. Encamp all around her; let no one escape. Repay her for her deeds; do to her as she has done, for she has defied the Lord, the Holy One of Israel.Therefore, her young men will fall in the streets; all her soldiers will be silenced in that day,” declares the Lord.


“See, I am against you, you arrogant one,” declares the Lord, the Lord Almighty, “for your day has come, the time for you to be punished.The arrogant one will stumble and fall and no one will help her up; I will kindle a fire in her towns that will consume all who are around her.” [Sorry Canada and Mexico]
“A sword against the Babylonians!” declares the Lord—“against those who live in Babylon and against her officials and wise men!A sword against her false prophets! They will become fools. A sword against her warriors! They will be filled with terror.A sword against her horses and chariots and all the foreigners in her ranks! They will become weaklings. A sword against her treasures! They will be plundered.A drought on her waters! They will dry up. For it is a land of idols, idols that will go mad with terror. [Again, these are the idols of celebrities, athletes, politicians, entertainers, etc. Imagine all those famous people, so celebrated and renowned, as they realize they’re stardom and glory is about to end abruptly and they’re about to perish in God’s wrath and vengeance.]

It will never again be inhabited or lived in from generation to generation.As I overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah along with their neighboring towns,” declares the Lord, “so no one will live there; no people will dwell in it.” [nuclear wasteland]
“Look! An army is coming from the north; a great nation and many kings are being stirred up from the ends of the earth.They are armed with bows and spears; they are cruel and without mercy. They come like men in battle formation to attack you, Daughter Babylon. The king of Babylon has heard reports about them, and his hands hang limp [Who will it be? Obama, Trump, Hillary Clinton?]. Anguish has gripped him, pain like that of a woman in labor.Like a lion coming up from Jordan’s thickets to a rich pastureland, I will chase Babylon from its land in an instant [In one day, one hour, and now – in an instant]. Who is the chosen one I will appoint for this? Who is like me and who can challenge me? And what shepherd can stand against me?”
Therefore, hear what the Lord has planned against Babylon, what he has purposed against the land of the Babylonians:At the sound of Babylon’s capture the earth will tremble; its cry will resound among the nations. [The whole world will be shaken at the fall of Babylon, the destruction of America. Everyone in the world will know about it.]
Jeremiah 51 This is what the Lord says:
“See, I will stir up the spirit of a destroyer [The Destroyer to be exact] against Babylon,I will send foreigners to Babylon to winnow her and to devastate her land; they will oppose her on every side in the day of her disaster.“Flee from Babylon! Run for your lives! Do not be destroyed because of her sins. It is time for the Lord’s vengeance; he will repay her what she deserves.


Babylon was a gold cup in the Lord’s hand; she made the whole earth drunk. The nations drank her wine; therefore they have now gone mad.Babylon will suddenly fall and be broken. Wail over her! for her judgment reaches to the skies, it rises as high as the heavens.’
“Sharpen the arrows [nuclear missiles], take up the shields! The Lord will carry out his purpose, his decree against the people of Babylon.You who live by many waters and are rich in treasures, your end has come, the time for you to be destroyed. [This verse is one of the stronger proofs that this scripture is speaking about, not just an ancient Babylon, but the future Babylon represented in Revelation 17 as well. The description of it is identical.]The land trembles and writhes, for the Lord’s purposes against Babylon stand—to lay waste the land of Babylon so that no one will live there.Babylon’s warriors have stopped fighting; they remain in their strongholds. Their strength is exhausted; they have become weaklings. Her dwellings are set on fire; the bars of her gates are broken.One courier follows another and messenger follows messenger to announce to the king of Babylon that his entire city is captured. [I don’t know how the President will escape, but can you imagine the President being told his entire nation is destroyed and there is nothing he can do about it.]
This is what the Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, says:Babylon will be a heap of ruins, an object of horror and scorn, a place where no one lives. How desolate Babylon will be among the nations!The sea will rise over Babylon; its roaring waves will cover her.Her towns will be desolate, a dry and desert land, a land where no one lives, through which no one travels. And the wall of Babylon will fall.
“Come out of her, my people! Run for your lives! Run from the fierce anger of the Lord. [This is a recurring theme – if you want to survive what’s to come, GET OUT OF AMERICA!]Do not lose heart or be afraid when rumors are heard in the land;For the time will surely come when I will punish the idols of Babylon; her whole land will be disgraced and her slain will all lie fallen within her.Then heaven and earth and all that is in them will shout for joy over Babylon,
for out of the north destroyers will attack her,” declares the Lord.
“The sound of a cry comes from Babylon, the sound of great destruction from the land of the Babylonians.The Lord will destroy Babylon; he will silence her noisy clamor. Waves of enemies will rage like great waters; the roar of their voices will resound.A destroyer will come against Babylon; her warriors will be captured, and their bows will be broken. For the Lord is a God of retribution; he will repay in full.I will make her officials and wise men drunk, her governors, officers and warriors as well; they will sleep forever and not awake,” declares the King, whose name is the Lord Almighty.
‘So will Babylon sink to rise no more because of the disaster God will bring on her. And her people will fall.’”
I know more about what is to transpire after this event, but it does not pertain to this judgment against America. God has not revealed all to me, but I will share what I know if people are interested.
[h=3]The Lord’s Devastation of the Earth[/h] Isaiah 24 See, the Lord is going to lay waste the earth and devastate it; He will ruin its face and scatter its inhabitants—it will be the same for priest as for people, for the master as for his servant, for the mistress as for her servant, for seller as for buyer, for borrower as for lender, for debtor as for creditor.The earth will be completely laid waste and totally plundered. The Lord has spoken this word.
The earth dries up and withers, the world languishes and withers, the heavens languish with the earth.The earth is defiled by its people; they have disobeyed the laws, violated the statutes and broken the everlasting covenant.Therefore a curse consumes the earth; its people must bear their guilt. Therefore earth’s inhabitants are burned up, and very few are left.The new wine dries up and the vine withers; all the merrymakers groan.The joyful timbrels are stilled, the noise of the revelers has stopped, the joyful harp is silent.No longer do they drink wine with a song; the beer is bitter to its drinkers.The ruined city lies desolate [Babylon]; the entrance to every house is barred.In the streets they cry out for wine; all joy turns to gloom, all joyful sounds are banished from the earth.The city is left in ruins, its gate is battered to pieces.So will it be on the earth and among the nations, as when an olive tree is beaten, or as when gleanings are left after the grape harvest. [God said in Isaiah 13, about the destruction of Babylon, He will make people scarcer than pure gold.]
They raise their voices, they shout for joy; from the west they acclaim the Lord’s majesty.Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord; exalt the name of the Lord, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea.From the ends of the earth we hear singing: “Glory to the Righteous One.”
But I said, “I waste away, I waste away! Woe to me! The treacherous betray! With treachery the treacherous betray!”Terror and pit and snare await you, people of the earth.Whoever flees at the sound of terror will fall into a pit; whoever climbs out of the pit will be caught in a snare.
The floodgates of the heavens are opened, the foundations of the earth shake.The earth is broken up, the earth is split asunder, the earth is violently shaken.The earth reels like a drunkard, it sways like a hut in the wind; so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion that it falls—never to rise again.
In that day the Lord will punish the powers in the heavens above and the kings on the earth below.They will be herded together like prisoners bound in a dungeon; they will be shut up in prison and be punished after many days.The moon will be dismayed, the sun ashamed; for the Lord Almighty will reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem, and before its elders—with great glory.
 
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Did anyone read the two posts above?
 
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