What is the point in being a prophet?

miknik5 · Aug 5, 2016

Sir, a big thing that has been shown to me is that many will come speaking things that are above HIS WORD...and will confuse men into believing that they need to listen to men when ALL THAT IS REALLY NEEDED is to keep our eyes on HIM...especially when the troubles come...

All these present threads about voices...how do you know the voice of GOD from the voice of satan or from your own voice?
When these UNLOVELY THINGS begin to occur, many will forget to just rest in HIM and guard their heart and their mind in CHRIST JESUS and not "GO OUT"!

I know I am offputting.
I know I am abrupt.
I am tired and the way I used to be is not the same as I am today.
I tried at one point to just withhold the WORD of TRUTH for fear of offending men
But is it here that one mentioned Jonah?
Sir, if I have been given what I have been given, which by the way, came after I had been very profoundly converted to CHRIST and KNOW THE VOICE of GOD, it is for the purpose of serving other men

I will not give my testimony of what I went through for 3 1/2 years AFTER I had been FULLY CONVERTED to CHRIST but it appears that what I went through, everywhere I go, wherever on any website related to discussing the THINGS of CHRIST, I come back to having to preach about holding to the TESTIMONY of JESUS...

And not by power or by might SAYETH the LORD, but by MY SPIRIT
As well that many in the last days will make manifest that they went out from THE LORD...by what they do...

I have no idea who will hear and believe
But I know what I know
And I can't hold back what I have been given to say

KenAllan · Aug 5, 2016

What is a prophet?

A prophet is someone who walks with God bringing the Gospel of Salvation to the World. This is what a prophet is today.

It was the same thing prophets did 4000 years ago. Bringing the Word of God to the World.

To claim you are bringing new information from God that is not in the Scriptures does not make you a prophet. It just means you have been deceived.

The Bible is complete and contains everything God has wanted us to know. There are no new revelations for today.

notuptome · Aug 5, 2016

If God has called someone to be a prophet they would not ask the silly question that the OP has asked.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Richie_2uk · Aug 5, 2016

I don't know if this helps, but I just written a thread that may help. http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/139865-stop-trying-second-guess-god.html

mpaper345 · Aug 5, 2016

voiceinthewild said:

As far as someone thinking they are a prophet concerning God's word,although they might be able to understand quite well,that prophesy extends to all the saints,which God gives liberally to all saints,nothing wavering,and we need not that any person teach us,but the Spirit will teach us,and blessed is he that reads the book of Revelation and understands.

So as far as understanding the Bible,its prophesy,all saints can understand equally well if they apply themselves.

God gave some prophets which would appear to mean that they can relate what will happen in the future,like who God wants certain saints to reach,or what area to go to,or watch out for danger in such and such an area,and such things.

But all saints can equally know the prophesy of the Bible.

If someone knows the operation of God it will narrow it down whether someone tells a true prophesy or not,but God said if it does not come to pass,than that person is a false prophet,for it did not come from Him.

The Bible does say God gives some prophets,but they are not like the prophets in the Old Testament,where there is few prophets in the Old Testament compared to Israel in ratio,which the prophet was to warn Israel to turn from their wicked ways,but all the saints of God are prophets warning the world of the danger ahead,and the losing of their soul,if they do not get right with God.

miknik5 · Aug 5, 2016

Isaiah 8 is another thing that has been constantly pointed to me and constantly required of me to say when it comes to many discussions

For in the end many will look to any other spirit who whispers and mutters...

Read it and understand that TO HOLD TO THE TESTIMONY of JESUS and not to go out from HIM...not by the sword, not uproot, not avenge, is sufficient and will be sufficient in the last days...

miknik5 · Aug 5, 2016

KenAllan said:

Sir, who said HE will send "prophets"
And who do you think these "prophets" will testify of?

Read JESUS' words regarding avenging the deaths of "EVERY PROPHET"...
What did you think HIS WITNESSES would be talking about?

Foretelling something MORE THAN THE SON OF GOD!?
Or forthtelling OF THE SON OF GOD!

miknik5 · Aug 5, 2016

BIND UP THE TESTIMONY AMONGST MY DISCIPLES
and when they tell you to seek spirits should not a people consult THEIR GOD!
To the dead (spirits) for the LIVING ONE!

NEVER...

TO THE TESTIMONY AND THE LAW
If they speak NOT according to THE WORD it is because there is NO LIGHT therein
Hardpressed when troubles come they will look up, CURSE/BLAME their GOD and their KING and be cast into utter darkness

Blessed those who wait for HIM
Blessed those who do NOT GO OUT and keep THEIR GARMENTS with them

For the TESTIMONY of JESUS is the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY!

Yet · Aug 5, 2016

Here's the misconception. The Spirit of prophesy can work through anyone of us as He so chooses. See 1Cor. 12, Romans12, and Ephesians 4. The 5 fold ministries are the Spirit of God in His body. Along with the function of shepherding, evangelizing, missionary, teaching. We just dont place exalted titles in front of our names. See Matt. 23:4-12 .Simply work the ministry God has placed in you. And that could change on a dime as He so chooses.

garee · Aug 5, 2016

A prophet is one who declares the word of God which we now have in whole .It can be in respect to future events, events now and in time past, as the whole gospel. Therefore in the true sense of the word prophet as well as apostle they are still part of those who are sent with the gospel .

A false apostle and false prophets is one that adds to the word of God. This is seeing God is no longer bringing any new revelations as prohecy.

The thing is he lovingly commands us of the great commission in making disciples of God. It is His work that does the convincing if he applies it to their hearts. Our work will not be in vain. Even some of the disciples of Christ in John 6 walked away in unbelief(no faith)

He uses a parable to encourage us to keep up the faith . I will offer two .

For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. 1Co 3:11

Now our sufferings do not add to his sufferings as the Catholics espouse . The reward we do receive if they believe just shows us he is our faithful Creator.

Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator1Pe 4:16

bikerchaz · Aug 5, 2016

miknik5 said:

I have given your reply to me a 'like' because I understand what you are saying, just not why. This person may be the biggest troll CC has ever had but he has not trolled yet, he may be the biggest blessing that CC has ever had but he has not blessed anyone yet.

When we love we do not run out with derision or an untrusting natuer and start shooing people away, we go out with an open heart and love them, if they prove false we love them if they then misuse us we love them and forgive them if they then hurt us we forgive them more and walk away. If they follow and keep abusing us then there is something more that God wants sorting out, but we keep loving them and forgiving them.

We do however protect those God has given us to look after for in hurting us they may hurt them but in all things we love, are not abusive and we do not retaliate. We pray for them and love them to our hurt but lets get there first and not judge because we are afraid of what might happen. We are on CC and at the verry worst we can block them and report them but this is silly because nothing has happened.

If he is watching this I would expect if he is a prophet will think "so much for the Holy Spirits leading", I might come to that myself soon.

And you are still on with this "sir" thing, I find it offensive I really do, it puts your stance in a defensive and an aggressive tone which is not in love.

Magenta · Aug 5, 2016

Addressing a male elder by prefacing with "Sir" is a sign of respect. Yes?
Well, even if I addressed you with "Sir" it should be taken as a token
of respect even though you are slightly younger than I am.

On the other hand, please don't call me Ma'am. LOL

[video=youtube;yTapoA5RQyo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTapoA5RQyo[/video]

emjcares · Aug 5, 2016

From bikerchaz #31 ---

---When we love we do not run out with derision or an untrusting natuer and start shooing people away, we go out with an open heart and love them, if they prove false we love them if they then misuse us we love them and forgive them if they then hurt us we forgive them more and walk away. If they follow and keep abusing us then there is something more that God wants sorting out, but we keep loving them and forgiving them. ---

Wow, that was so beautifully said. Very true and very convicting and should be something we all strive towards to live by, in my opinion. I really liked that, thank you.

PS, sorry, I don't know how to put a portion of another's post into a quote box. I can hit reply with quote, but a portion I copypaste, when it works.

Stunnedbygrace · Aug 5, 2016

Joel says something like...then your young men and women will prophecy and your old men will dream dreams.
If you have a word for us you believe is from God I will listen with an open mind and listen to hear what the Spirit says to me.
I can promise an openness from me.

And I see now that there is a second page I haven't read yet, so maybe you came back. Going to read. And if you haven't been back, I will wait to hear what you have to say when you come back.

miknik5 · Aug 5, 2016

bikerchaz said:

I don't consider him a troll. I don't consider anyone a troll. All I consider is that the Voice of God does not change. He has given us all that we need now to know HIM. Some however haven't grown up into The Head and therefore can't discern the pure unadulterated word voice and spirit of God from what is not the pure word voice and Dpirit of God

We do not need any man to teach us. But Inot all have grown up into their most holy salvation which is in Christ alone. So when one offers additions (to The Foundation, which is Christ plus nothing and no thing) they already are adding what is not needed. God did not leave out anything in the story of our salvation in by and through Christ. And those who add to the story make manifest that they do not fully understand the magnitude of the Gift of God.

If we would simply keep our feet planted firmly on The Foundation and keep our eyes focused on Him who is both the foundation and the head of His Body, we would not go out by would remain in Hiim

And that really is our work. To know His Voicw to trust in His Sovereignty and to remain in Him in all situations and circumstances

Holding to the testimony / witness/ record of Jesus

Marcelo · Aug 5, 2016

voiceinthewild said:

Whether or not you're a troll, I think the thread is interesting!

I don't think we need prophets in the sense of predicting the future - we do need prophets in the sense of preaching the living Word of God. Preachers who are not guided by the Holy Spirit preach what they think is important. Preachers who are guided by the Holy Spirit preach what God tells them to preach, and they are called prophets.

LaurenTM · Aug 5, 2016

voiceinthewild said:

I know this is my first thread, but I came to this site to ask people's opinions.

God has called me to be a prophet, but I don't understand the point of it. What good is it to know what is going to happen? What good is it to tell people what's going to happen?

When I do tell people what is going to happen, they don't believe me and they come up with any explanation they can to say that what God has shown me will happen won't happen.

Deuteronomy 18:21,22 gives the test of a prophet: "[SUP]21 [/SUP]You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” [SUP]22 [/SUP]If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed." I will pass that test when what God has shown me comes to pass. The only problem is that when what I say comes to pass, there will not be anyone alive or on this forum to verify it.

Even the most devout Christians on this forum will not be able to accept what I have to say. God is going to do a thing so great and terrible that you cannot even fathom it, let alone accept it. And again I ask, what good is it for me to tell anyone? I fear, and think I know deep down in my heart, that God has raised me up to be the unheard prophet: a raving madman preaching from the street corner about what He is going to do and that no one will listen or heed my warning. And then it will be too late.

koo koo

AuntieAnt · Aug 5, 2016

voiceinthewild said:

Ok brother, first of all, you stated above that you came to this site to solicit people’s opinions.

But of course the Word tells us not to lean on our own understanding, let alone put our faith in another man’s understanding (opinions).

Secondly, you say you don’t understand the point of God calling you as a prophet.

Son, God isn’t the author of confusion. He doesn’t send us in a tail spin grasping at straws trying to figure out what he wants from us. God speaks to us plainly as a father to his children. It’s our own carnal intellect that throws us for a loop. God says ask for wisdom, he gives it. It's that simple.

People don’t believe you because of the “boy who cried wolf” syndrome. You are one of many, many folks crying doomsday messages which prove to be false. Anything that has come to pass everyone else was aware of, too. Because we read in II Peter that no prophecy of Scripture is of private interpretation.

You state above, “Even the most devout Christians on this forum will not be able to accept what I have to say.” There’s a reason for that. Devout folks have ears to hear God themselves and your message is contrary to it.

You say, “I fear, and I think I know…” which means you don’t know positively. So you yourself are not even sure about the prophet calling.

Lastly, you cry it’s going to be too late because there’s gonna be destruction and that nobody will heed your warning.

Let me ask you now, why in the world would God tell you to prophesy a message when He’s certain nobody will listen to you? How does that even make sense? So that brings us back to your title question:

What is the point in being a prophet?

The point is, when the Holy Spirit moves upon someone to speak a particular message, there will be absolutely no doubt it is God speaking and that someone will hear it. It's not something we have any control over, so we don't have to worry about it. It's God at work in us, not us doing the thing.

I get your heart’s desire. You want to please God, you want to be significant and useful to Christ. You want people to pay attention to God and give him glory and honor and praise. That’s commendable.

But dearheart, you already are significant and useful to God just by being his son. Perhaps these messages you “think” you’re getting to give others, is the Holy Spirit calling you yourself closer to him, wanting to be intimate with you, fellowshipping with you, speaking with you and you speaking with him. Perhaps he wants to take away your restlessness and for you to trust that he is in control of everything.

The Lord doesn’t want you to feel segregated from the family of God, like a rejected prophet. You are our brother and we are all one body in Christ. We are all here to encourage and inspire and love one another in the love of Christ Jesus.

I pray you can rest your mind in Christ Jesus and rejoice that he is Lord of all and has everything in his hands. There’s no need to panic as he tells us to be of good cheer. He’s already overcome the world. May you be blessed in the peace that surpasses all our own understanding.

tourist · Aug 5, 2016

I guess that's a good way to stay abreast on the latest developments. No wait, that's a historian. My bad.

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Thompalin said:

Repent or... and sure enough they repented, so no or. Later on they went back to their old ways, and then God did what he promised he would do. So fulfilled both ways.

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