What is Salvation?
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If you wish to bring in suppositions on who those in Philippians 3:18-19 are, other than what is clearly specified, you are then adding words to the Bible that aren't there. Such endeavors distract away from what the Lord clearly wants to make known to us, that individuals whose God/love is their bellies/flesh are enemies of the cross of Christ.
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Wakeup works for salvation friend .
Which is an enemy of the cross.
20For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Which is an enemy of the cross.
20For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
The many in verse 18 are carnal individuals whose true God/love is their flesh/belly. Whether they were ever real Christian believers in love for God and their neighbor, I do not know. They did, however, have the chance to overcome their carnal inclinations while on the earth, as Christ made this possible with His sacrifice. Those who did overcome their carnal inclinations would then have been spiritually adopted by the Father.
Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
That's not what eph 1.13 says how a person receives the Holy Spirit.
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
The actual verse.
20For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Are you doing verse 20 ,21 ? You sound like your conversation is on yourself and what your doing to earn and merit and perfect the flesh.
20For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Are you doing verse 20 ,21 ? You sound like your conversation is on yourself and what your doing to earn and merit and perfect the flesh.
Completely false and totally heretical. Respectfully. Is that what the verse says? is that what any verse says? Is God not capable of saying what he means ?
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Those whose conversation is in heaven with God are spiritually inclined beings. My not living for my flesh, is not doing a work for salvation; it is my reasonable service, presenting my body a living sacrifice (Romans 12:1).
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
