Understanding God’s election
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And, also....
Our ultimate conformity!
The resurrection body just like His own!
For not all believers throughout time were chosen by God to be the Bride of Christ.
And, for that purpose, he chose us (before the foundation of the world) to be the "body" of Christ!
We'll be bone of his bones, and the same glorious substance of his glorious body!
To do so, he predestined us to be born during the Church age.
So when we believed during the Church age, we are entered into Christ as his Church.
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Our ultimate conformity!
The resurrection body just like His own!
For not all believers throughout time were chosen by God to be the Bride of Christ.
And, for that purpose, he chose us (before the foundation of the world) to be the "body" of Christ!
We'll be bone of his bones, and the same glorious substance of his glorious body!
To do so, he predestined us to be born during the Church age.
So when we believed during the Church age, we are entered into Christ as his Church.
But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord
Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control,
will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body." Philippians 3:20-21
The Greek word doxēs, which means "glorious", signifies majesty and splendor........
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That's my point...someone who calls upon the name of the Lord already believes He is Lord. And they call upon Him by the Holy Spirit.
And Paul couldn't choose other words because He was being moved by the Holy Spirit in writing scripture.
Of course it's speaking of Jesus, as is 1 Corinthians 12:3. But the choice of wording is God breathed.
And Paul couldn't choose other words because He was being moved by the Holy Spirit in writing scripture.
Of course it's speaking of Jesus, as is 1 Corinthians 12:3. But the choice of wording is God breathed.
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You still didn't answer my question about the imputation of Adam's sin to the human race. Did God impute the Federal Head's sin to mankind or not?
And unless man's conscience is external to man -- something that hangs out in the external world -- then I would have to say you're dead wrong about the existence of evil or sin within man. Too many scriptures contradict your thinking. A&E ran and hid from God after they sinned! Why? Because their consciences (WITHIN THEM) accused them! They felt (within themselves) guilt, shame and fear -- all of which are byproducts of sin. Their bodies became "temples" of sin! Plus you have contradicted yourself by telling us that we have a human nature like Adam's. How did we get that human nature if it weren't passed down to us -- if we didn't inherit it!? And are we born with Adam's sin nature?
Jesus also taught us that all manner of evil proceeds from within man -- from within man's heart (Mat 15:19)! And didn't a prophet tell us that man's heart is desperately wicked and self-deceived above else, so much so that man cannot even understand it (Jer 17:9)? And didn't another prophet teach that there is no spiritual soundness in man at all -- that the entire heart is afflicted (Isa 1:5-6)? And didn't Paul proclaim that there was no good thing within his human nature ("flesh"), cf. Rom 7:18?
Finally, Adam's death on the day he disobeyed God was not physical, but spiritual. The Holy Spirit departed from him and that severed Adam from the life of the Spirit, hence he DIED on that very day that he ate! Everyone on this little green planet is either alive in the Spirit or is dead in their sinful flesh (nature).
And unless man's conscience is external to man -- something that hangs out in the external world -- then I would have to say you're dead wrong about the existence of evil or sin within man. Too many scriptures contradict your thinking. A&E ran and hid from God after they sinned! Why? Because their consciences (WITHIN THEM) accused them! They felt (within themselves) guilt, shame and fear -- all of which are byproducts of sin. Their bodies became "temples" of sin! Plus you have contradicted yourself by telling us that we have a human nature like Adam's. How did we get that human nature if it weren't passed down to us -- if we didn't inherit it!? And are we born with Adam's sin nature?
Jesus also taught us that all manner of evil proceeds from within man -- from within man's heart (Mat 15:19)! And didn't a prophet tell us that man's heart is desperately wicked and self-deceived above else, so much so that man cannot even understand it (Jer 17:9)? And didn't another prophet teach that there is no spiritual soundness in man at all -- that the entire heart is afflicted (Isa 1:5-6)? And didn't Paul proclaim that there was no good thing within his human nature ("flesh"), cf. Rom 7:18?
Finally, Adam's death on the day he disobeyed God was not physical, but spiritual. The Holy Spirit departed from him and that severed Adam from the life of the Spirit, hence he DIED on that very day that he ate! Everyone on this little green planet is either alive in the Spirit or is dead in their sinful flesh (nature).
Well, we have touched on this before and I've said many times that Adam was of the natural world, and that Jesus was purposed from before the foundation of the world, so God certainly knew that Adam was going to sin ... and I believe that as a natural man it was inevitable that he would, not that God forced him to, but because he chose to. And it wasn't until he actually sinned that everything changed ... the whole universe was affected.
Then if Judas lost his salvation, we, too, can! I guess God doesn't keep us. He doesn't protect us. He doesn't preserve us. And Jesus stinks at being the "Good Shepherd" who promised he would lose no one!
And I suppose you think the people talked about in Mat 7:23 also lost their salvation?
And I suppose you think the people talked about in Mat 7:23 also lost their salvation?
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As with all things his views are subject to interpretation and he may not be the originator.
But in Catholicism which many denominations still hold to as well......
they go beyond the result of spiritual "death" being the result to everyone and assert that even before we are born we are sinful as opposed to born with a propensity to sin.
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Can anyone name one sin that a bodiless soul could have?
The fallen body is the root of all sin...
A soul that obliges a desire of his fallen flesh, sins.
A soul that resists a desire of the flesh does not sin.
That soul was merely 'tempted.'
Jesus was tempted, but never sinned.
grace and peace .........
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