Understanding God’s election
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As long as God is glorified even evil becomes good.
"Strive not, for the hairs of your head are numbered.
What will come, will come.
Though you fret and toil, the path unfolds as it was meant to according to the good pleasure of my Fathers will, to glorify Himself.
The weaver's loom spins on, indifferent to your desires.
Seek solace not in changing fate, but in accepting its tapestry." -Calvinist Jesus (anonymous)
"Strive not, for the hairs of your head are numbered.
What will come, will come.
Though you fret and toil, the path unfolds as it was meant to according to the good pleasure of my Fathers will, to glorify Himself.
The weaver's loom spins on, indifferent to your desires.
Seek solace not in changing fate, but in accepting its tapestry." -Calvinist Jesus (anonymous)
Just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin,
so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. Romans 5:12
Since you reject what is said of the natural man and claim God is unfair, that is more meant for those
who believe what Scripture says... though there is always hope that you will become one of them.
so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. Romans 5:12
Since you reject what is said of the natural man and claim God is unfair, that is more meant for those
who believe what Scripture says... though there is always hope that you will become one of them.
Ephesians chapter 2 proclaims that God offers to us the "gift of salvation" but we must accept it through faith which means we must believe it's a real thing that benefits our life.
If we don't believe then there's "no salvation."
If we do believe then "there is salvation."
So even though God is giving us the gift, it's not until we believe before we're actually saved.
If we don't believe then there's "no salvation."
If we do believe then "there is salvation."
So even though God is giving us the gift, it's not until we believe before we're actually saved.
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Scripture says we are sealed with the promised Holy Spirit upon belief.
Belief is not generated by the will of the natural man who is hostile
in his mind toward God, and has a stony heart that needs replacing.
That would be akin to a leopard changing his spots.
Or an Ethiopian changing the colour of his skin.
Or a bad tree bringing forth good fruit.
Of course, many are they who deny what is said of the natural man.
However that does not alter what Scripture has to say of him.
Which, when you get right down to it, is quite a lot.
Belief is not generated by the will of the natural man who is hostile
in his mind toward God, and has a stony heart that needs replacing.
That would be akin to a leopard changing his spots.
Or an Ethiopian changing the colour of his skin.
Or a bad tree bringing forth good fruit.
Of course, many are they who deny what is said of the natural man.
However that does not alter what Scripture has to say of him.
Which, when you get right down to it, is quite a lot.
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even though we are called to believe and God makes His appeal to people all throughout scripture.
Your arrogance and condescension is a very poor reflection on Jesus. Just from an outside perspective. You are not being respectful or even arguing in good faith. You're behaving more like a cult adherent and making divisions for no other reason than self aggrandizement. I'm not telling you this as a insult, but as a friend that hopes someone will point it out to me if I start sounding like this. The CDSC (Calvin Derangement Syndrome Cult ) thinks way too highly of themselves and not highly enough of God or other people. They do not see they act 180 degrees from how Jesus told us to treat each other. Here to other people who proclaim Jesus name. I guarantee that 90% of who you call "Calvinist" would tell you "I'm not a Calvinist", but that sure doesn't stop the CDSC from calling you one then going on to destroy teachings you clearly say you've never believed in, and high fiving each other as if they are Holy warriors fighting on Gods behalf. It's beyond sad and is a disgrace to Jesus name. Don't fall into this cult way of thinking man. We can disagree and both be saved, both be brothers. But the way you speak doesn't feel like it leaves much room for that. Not when you (not YOU but most Calvin slayers) have to mislabel me, lie about what I believe, then go on to attack the lie you made up to lift up self and make yourself feel better about your own belief. Once the CDSC starts listening and actually dealing with what is said and not what they make up, stop labeling others falsely and being divisive just for divisiveness sake, then we can come together and discuss these things like we should, but until they can drop the false authority they've imagined up in their own minds and deal with these matters in truth, then there is absolutely no reason at all to waste time "fighting" with them endlessly.
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Is calling Jesus "Lord" necessary to accept the gift of salvation, no, recognizing Him as Savior and trusting in His work on our behalf is the place where we receive the gift of salvation, and yes people can recognize their fallen nature and accept the gift and no one needs to travel to receive the Gift.
Again important to delineate between soteriology and discipleship.
Again important to delineate between soteriology and discipleship.
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How how can we know what it was like to be Adam or Eve when they were not in the condition that we are born into? What we do know is that Eve was deceived and Adam sinned deliberately. I also contend that they were of the natural world and were in as much need as being born again as we are... The Tree of Life was available to them but they chose to eat from the tree that promised death... And God banished them from the garden and guarded the way to the Tree of Life so that they could not eat from it and live forever after in their sinful state.
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