Truth

[MattforJesus]

Most of us are aware from countless news articles that the vast majority of climatologists believe that our current climate crisis is caused by man's use of fossil fuels. Despite this fact, there are many throughout the world who continue to dispute this near unanimous assessment by the scientific community. My question to all here now is, If the data regarding our climate crisis is true, would not those who claim and advocate otherwise be deceived by Satan?

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

While science can be right we cannot always trust them, not only because they may not be right, but they might be deceitful.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change, the more problems on earth, or making it appear as there are problems, the more chance the world will come together which the plan is to produce the New Age Christ as the solution to solve the problems, and have peace on earth.

New age movement interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, which will pave the way to the beast kingdom where they will rebel against God.

Took prayer out of school and taught evolution.

Science confirms evolution, and using ridiculous claims, and findings, and what they know that cannot be proven no matter how hard they try that is probably to disclaim the Bible in it's fundamental belief, which I do not believe is probably but is doing it for that purpose supporting the new age movement.

For birds of a feather flock together, and the world will support the world, and the new age movement is the thing that is going on now, and has been because of the theory of evolution that has been out for many years.

They claim to know the big bang happened this many years ago, the Hubble telescope can see 13 billion light years away, this dinosaur lived then, and that dinosaur lived at that time, and the earth is billions of years old, and the first galaxy was formed at this time, as if they really know, and can find out.

But they want to make it look like we evolved without a shadow of a doubt, and disclaim the Bible as it has been taught for many years, which they would not mind the new age movement interpretation of it and would support it for it exalts people, you know people like them.

So I do not believe science in that aspect, and if it were true I would not be deceived by Satan but I would not believe it, but it is a deception for evolution is not true, and there is a personal God, so they are the ones that are deceived by Satan.

But that does not mean they might not be right by those big claims, but there is no way that they would know of those things, and there is a sucker born every minute.

Any belief you want to spread around even if it sounds strange somebody is bound to follow you, but when they take prayer out of school and teach evolution, and science confirms it, and believed in the world by much people science can get away with saying outlandish things to add to the deception going on.

They do not want to only scratch the surface of saying the Bible is not true according to how it has been taught, but they want to blow it out of the water.

And all that science says also adds to the deception along with technology, and the achievements that go with it, that mankind is so great, and intelligent, and can know many and great things, and accomplish things of great magnitude, and we only use 10 percent of our brain and just think if we use the other 90 percent, and there is nothing we cannot know or do, all to boost the arrogance of people to make them believe mankind is so great and will be able to be greater.

Which God said in the future they will say I am, and there is no one else.

So there is more to it than to cause people to believe in evolution, but to also cause mankind to think they are great and nothing they cannot do, and boost their arrogance, and self exaltation.

But I will not go so far as to say there is a flat earth, but I believe the earth is round by the way we observe it going from dark to light, and light to dark, for on a flat earth we would not observe it that way, but only on a round earth.

But I do not know about the current climate crisis is people's use of fossil fuels, but they are going to do what they are going to do whether to continue it to go on, or not, but they will point out climate changes, environment changes, environment dangers, and crisis not good for the planet to add to the deception going on.

 

[luigi]

Climate change has been happening since the world began. It has been cooling and heating, moving and changing throughout history. The speed at which these changes are happening might be altering but it is not new. I think a good focus would be on preparing for the changes that are happening. We are to be wise. I would offer that wisdom in this case would be to prepare for flooding, droughts, and changes in agricultural zones due to the shifts. Observing the shifts is one thing, finding reasons is another but then a plan of action for these events is most helpful.

You are correct in that climate change is cyclical and has been happening since the world began. Over the last 500,000 years we usually have had a glaciation period lasting approximately 100,000 years that has then been followed by an interglacial period lasting approximately 12,000 years. We are now at the tail end of a 12,000 year interglacial period when we should be going into the next glaciation period. Instead of it getting colder now, it is getting warmer, which according to the data is due to the high levels of CO2 in our atmosphere brought about by the burning of fossil fuels.

 

[luigi]

1Ti 6:20 O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
1Ti 6:21 Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. Grace be with thee. Amen.

While science can be right we cannot always trust them, not only because they may not be right, but they might be deceitful.

Controlled conflict brings about controlled change, the more problems on earth, or making it appear as there are problems, the more chance the world will come together which the plan is to produce the New Age Christ as the solution to solve the problems, and have peace on earth.

New age movement interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be greater and spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, which will pave the way to the beast kingdom where they will rebel against God.

Took prayer out of school and taught evolution.

Science confirms evolution, and using ridiculous claims, and findings, and what they know that cannot be proven no matter how hard they try that is probably to disclaim the Bible in it's fundamental belief, which I do not believe is probably but is doing it for that purpose supporting the new age movement.

For birds of a feather flock together, and the world will support the world, and the new age movement is the thing that is going on now, and has been because of the theory of evolution that has been out for many years.

They claim to know the big bang happened this many years ago, the Hubble telescope can see 13 billion light years away, this dinosaur lived then, and that dinosaur lived at that time, and the earth is billions of years old, and the first galaxy was formed at this time, as if they really know, and can find out.

But they want to make it look like we evolved without a shadow of a doubt, and disclaim the Bible as it has been taught for many years, which they would not mind the new age movement interpretation of it and would support it for it exalts people, you know people like them.

So I do not believe science in that aspect, and if it were true I would not be deceived by Satan but I would not believe it, but it is a deception for evolution is not true, and there is a personal God, so they are the ones that are deceived by Satan.

But that does not mean they might not be right by those big claims, but there is no way that they would know of those things, and there is a sucker born every minute.

Any belief you want to spread around even if it sounds strange somebody is bound to follow you, but when they take prayer out of school and teach evolution, and science confirms it, and believed in the world by much people science can get away with saying outlandish things to add to the deception going on.

They do not want to only scratch the surface of saying the Bible is not true according to how it has been taught, but they want to blow it out of the water.

And all that science says also adds to the deception along with technology, and the achievements that go with it, that mankind is so great, and intelligent, and can know many and great things, and accomplish things of great magnitude, and we only use 10 percent of our brain and just think if we use the other 90 percent, and there is nothing we cannot know or do, all to boost the arrogance of people to make them believe mankind is so great and will be able to be greater.

Which God said in the future they will say I am, and there is no one else.

So there is more to it than to cause people to believe in evolution, but to also cause mankind to think they are great and nothing they cannot do, and boost their arrogance, and self exaltation.

But I will not go so far as to say there is a flat earth, but I believe the earth is round by the way we observe it going from dark to light, and light to dark, for on a flat earth we would not observe it that way, but only on a round earth.

But I do not know about the current climate crisis is people's use of fossil fuels, but they are going to do what they are going to do whether to continue it to go on, or not, but they will point out climate changes, environment changes, environment dangers, and crisis not good for the planet to add to the deception going on.

I agree with you to not trust all that the learned scientific community has to offer, as much of it is theory. I therefore, rely first on the Word, which if I see correlates with what is going on in the world, and the majority of the scientific community have a theory that is supported with empirical data, corroborating the Word, I then recognize these scientific assessments to be accurate. The Word first, science second, but contingent on correlation and corroboration with the Word. I don't want to get into the details on what the bottomless pit, and the sea from which the beast ascends represents, except that it does derive from the scientific community who will be deceived into believing its being benign to the environment, but which we can see from the results in Revelation 9, represent very dire consequences.

 

[Dino246]

You are correct in that climate change is cyclical and has been happening since the world began. Over the last 500,000 years we usually have had a glaciation period lasting approximately 100,000 years that has then been followed by an interglacial period lasting approximately 12,000 years. We are now at the tail end of a 12,000 year interglacial period when we should be going into the next glaciation period. Instead of it getting colder now, it is getting warmer, which according to the data is due to the high levels of CO2 in our atmosphere brought about by the burning of fossil fuels.

500,000 years? I take it you don't believe Exodus 20:11. What other parts of the Bible don't you believe, and why do you believe some parts of it but not others? Do you only believe the parts that "science corroborates"?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Most of us are aware from countless news articles that the vast majority of climatologists believe that our current climate crisis is caused by man's use of fossil fuels. Despite this fact, there are many throughout the world who continue to dispute this near unanimous assessment by the scientific community. My question to all here now is, If the data regarding our climate crisis is true, would not those who claim and advocate otherwise be deceived by Satan?

The Satanic Deception is being perpetrated by Globalists Elites who have three goals in mind: (1) bring the human race into political and economic bondage, (2) put power over all humans into the hands of a few deluded elites, and (3) promote lies in order to bring down the developed nations to the level of undeveloped nations, through income redistribution. Evidently you have not give any thought to the SCIENTISTS who refute the Climate Change Hoax.

1. Carbon dioxide is an ESSENTIAL component of air, and an essential nutrient for plants. It is not harmful but beneficial.

2. The increase in CO2 over the last 100 years is not seriously significant (if at all), and is not responsible for changes in the climate.
CO2 is not increasing
"...there is the contention by Wolfgang Knorr of the Department of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol in England that carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are about where they were 160 years ago." (as quoted by Ken Ward Jr.)

3. Climates are being affected by many other factors besides CO2 emissions.
"It is shown that with those uncertainties, the trend in the airborne fraction since 1850 has been 0.7 ± 1.4% per decade, i.e. close to and not significantly different from zero."

4. *Fossil fuels* is a total misnomer, since subterranean oil is present as a natural subsoil component. The presumption is that dinosaur etc released this oil below the surface when they became extinct. But there is no proof of this.
5. The Globalists Elites who preach to the ordinary Joe to ride bicycles are the same selfish people who jet around the world in private jets and contribute immensely to emission.

6. Many of these so-called climatologists have been fudging their results to promote a POLITICAL AGENDA which fits into the New World Order.

 

[NotmebutHim]

 

[luigi]

500,000 years? I take it you don't believe Exodus 20:11. What other parts of the Bible don't you believe, and why do you believe some parts of it but not others? Do you only believe the parts that "science corroborates"?

I believe the Lord declares the end from the beginning (Isaiah 46:10), which means to me that the seventh day in which the Lord shall rest in His people, has yet to physically occur. The seven days are more than seven 24 hour periods.

 

[luigi]

The Satanic Deception is being perpetrated by Globalists Elites who have three goals in mind: (1) bring the human race into political and economic bondage, (2) put power over all humans into the hands of a few deluded elites, and (3) promote lies in order to bring down the developed nations to the level of undeveloped nations, through income redistribution. Evidently you have not give any thought to the SCIENTISTS who refute the Climate Change Hoax.

1. Carbon dioxide is an ESSENTIAL component of air, and an essential nutrient for plants. It is not harmful but beneficial.

2. The increase in CO2 over the last 100 years is not seriously significant (if at all), and is not responsible for changes in the climate.
CO2 is not increasing
"...there is the contention by Wolfgang Knorr of the Department of Earth Sciences at the University of Bristol in England that carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are about where they were 160 years ago." (as quoted by Ken Ward Jr.)

3. Climates are being affected by many other factors besides CO2 emissions.
"It is shown that with those uncertainties, the trend in the airborne fraction since 1850 has been 0.7 ± 1.4% per decade, i.e. close to and not significantly different from zero."

4. *Fossil fuels* is a total misnomer, since subterranean oil is present as a natural subsoil component. The presumption is that dinosaur etc released this oil below the surface when they became extinct. But there is no proof of this.
5. The Globalists Elites who preach to the ordinary Joe to ride bicycles are the same selfish people who jet around the world in private jets and contribute immensely to emission.

6. Many of these so-called climatologists have been fudging their results to promote a POLITICAL AGENDA which fits into the New World Order.

Hello Nehemiah6, You offer numerous unsubstantiated conjectures sprinkled with bits of truth. This is why I say use the Word first to see how it lines up with what is going on in the world today. If you can use the Word to add credence to your suppositions, I will then be happy to discuss your perspectives. Until then, however, any and all unsubstantiated conjectures that do not line up with the many warnings the Lord provides us in both the OT and NT are just a waste of my time, and faith in the Word.

 

[Nehemiah6]

This is why I say use the Word first to see how it lines up with what is going on in the world today.

1. It is you who brought up "the current climate crisis". That has nothing to do with the Word of God, but it has everything to do with a BOGUS AGENDA.

2. As far as Christians are concerned, the world and everything in it will be totally and supernaturally burned up. But unbelievers do not believe this, and are using the Climate Change Hoax to further their agenda. Add to that the false religion of worshiping Mother Earth (Gaia).

3. Also, my intention was not to substantiate whatever I posted, but to summarize what is going on. There is plenty of hard evidence to support what I have said.

4. The irony is that these do-gooders have failed to address China, India, Russia, etc. who are major polluters, but do not give a hoot about the Climate Change *Crisis*.

 

[luigi]

1. It is you who brought up "the current climate crisis". That has nothing to do with the Word of God, but it has everything to do with a BOGUS AGENDA.

2. As far as Christians are concerned, the world and everything in it will be totally and supernaturally burned up. But unbelievers do not believe this, and are using the Climate Change Hoax to further their agenda. Add to that the false religion of worshiping Mother Earth (Gaia).

3. Also, my intention was not to substantiate whatever I posted, but to summarize what is going on. There is plenty of hard evidence to support what I have said.

4. The irony is that these do-gooders have failed to address China, India, Russia, etc. who are major polluters, but do not give a hoot about the Climate Change *Crisis*.

Hello again Nehemiah6,
Yes it is me who brought up the current climate crisis topic. It is in my OP. It is also as I have stated in several posts here in God's Word. If you look at the seven angels sounding warnings in Revelation chapters 8 and 9 you will see that the environmental destruction to 1/3 of all of earth's environmental resources in Revelation 8 are attributed to the love mankind has for the things his hands produce (Revelation 9:20). And as I have also pointed out in previous posts, the vast majority of things produced today are produced from industries burning fossil fuels. It's then just a matter of putting one and one together to understand that is the use of fossil fuels that cause the destruction to 1/3 of earth's environmental resource.
In addition to the book of Revelation, Isaiah 24 describes the earth teetering and tottering like a drunkard, with mankind experiencing dire circumstances due to their adherence to the curse and breaking the eternal covenant to steward the earth.
Explain these scriptures of God's Word away with another explanation, if you want me to discuss what is this truth.

 

[garee]

Satan is the father of lies, and the deceiver of all mankind. All deception therefore originates from the spirit of darkness. All truth comes from the Lord.

True he is the god of this dying world. The wrath of God being revealed .Which includes what some call climate control rather than calling a "creation out of control"

If is the god of this world's responsible for causing corruption the world we live in. Putting a bandage on it will not cure it it will die . We should take care of it.

The incorruptible one is just beyond the horizon . No fossils in that one the glory of the Lord will be the power supply. .