I have stated clearly in other posts that such a position is not to question the validity of someone else's salvation by stating that, "it won't condemn them to Hell or anything." You've jumped to conclusions as to my intent. I am simply encouraging the person to seek the Lord on this matter because as it is they are espousing that many brethren are empowered by demons and their "power" is demonic. If the power and operation of their gifts are from God and they insist on it being sourced from the enemy, do you not think it decent to suggest they pray on it instead of continuing in borderline blasphemy?
Tongues???
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Ben I posted 3 videos....all tongues with interpretation
between 5-14 minutes long. even a sampling from them gives one a sense of what's happening.
would you automatically assume all the stuff in the videos is authentic?
how do you go about discovering falsehood - is their any false stuff going on your world?
between 5-14 minutes long. even a sampling from them gives one a sense of what's happening.
would you automatically assume all the stuff in the videos is authentic?
how do you go about discovering falsehood - is their any false stuff going on your world?
No quandary. By their fruits you will know them. Again, and respectfully, I point to your lack of experience. If you actually witnessed the gifts in genuine expression you could not come away espousing their source from anything (demonic) but God, and Him alone. To suggest it blasphemy to operate in gifts of the Spirit is a position that is formed in ignorance. Ignorance being a lack of experience with the true and genuine manifestation.
it's rather involved....to do justice to the topic I'd have to summarize a lot.
I won't have the energy to go through it today, but I will asap (I want you to know that I know).
in a nutshell:
a small independent non-denom church founded by original Toronto Airport people, and a bapti-costal church influenced by Toronto "Blessing" stuff (also had a few members from original airport experience).
hands laid on me
3 weeks prayer and fasting, 3 months til I knew it was alllllllllll wroooooooooong.
later
I won't have the energy to go through it today, but I will asap (I want you to know that I know).
in a nutshell:
a small independent non-denom church founded by original Toronto Airport people, and a bapti-costal church influenced by Toronto "Blessing" stuff (also had a few members from original airport experience).
hands laid on me
3 weeks prayer and fasting, 3 months til I knew it was alllllllllll wroooooooooong.
later
1 Corinthians 14:40 (ESV)
[SUP]40 [/SUP] But all things should be done decently and in order.
1 Corinthians 14:34 (ESV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.
1 Timothy 2:12 (ESV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
1 Corinthians 14:28 (YLT)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] and if there may be no interpreter, let him be silent in an assembly, and to himself let him speak, and to God.
Since the COMMANDS in 1 Cor. 14, validate that ONLY A MAN was given the genuine TONGUES and ONLY A MAN was given the genuine gift of Interpretations, women doing any of it would send up the red flags of a counterfeit. GOD DOES NOT BLESS WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE. That video is more PROOF that what is going on in the CHARISMATIC MOVEMENT; is NOT OF GOD, and more proof that it is only a copy of the PAGAN TONGUES like that of the worship of APOLLO, one of the Dionysian Mystery Religions.
QUOTE: The Dionysian Mysteries were a ritual of ancient Greece and Rome which used intoxicants and other trance-inducing techniques (like dance and music) to remove inhibitions and social constraints, liberating the individual. . .
From what appears to be a NEW AGE site, I found this quote:
"Movement In Worship specialise in releasing people into freedom to worship creatively with the whole of who they are; body, mind and spirit."
[SUP]40 [/SUP] But all things should be done decently and in order.
1 Corinthians 14:34 (ESV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says.
1 Timothy 2:12 (ESV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.
1 Corinthians 14:28 (YLT)
[SUP]28 [/SUP] and if there may be no interpreter, let him be silent in an assembly, and to himself let him speak, and to God.
Since the COMMANDS in 1 Cor. 14, validate that ONLY A MAN was given the genuine TONGUES and ONLY A MAN was given the genuine gift of Interpretations, women doing any of it would send up the red flags of a counterfeit. GOD DOES NOT BLESS WILLFUL DISOBEDIENCE. That video is more PROOF that what is going on in the CHARISMATIC MOVEMENT; is NOT OF GOD, and more proof that it is only a copy of the PAGAN TONGUES like that of the worship of APOLLO, one of the Dionysian Mystery Religions.
QUOTE: The Dionysian Mysteries were a ritual of ancient Greece and Rome which used intoxicants and other trance-inducing techniques (like dance and music) to remove inhibitions and social constraints, liberating the individual. . .
From what appears to be a NEW AGE site, I found this quote:
"Movement In Worship specialise in releasing people into freedom to worship creatively with the whole of who they are; body, mind and spirit."
sorry. if I brush off a post or part of one it's because it's probably too boring to spend much time on.
I think that's what's happened with some of yours.
if you could repost the idea/question i'll look again
I think that's what's happened with some of yours.
if you could repost the idea/question i'll look again