Tithe!

[fredoheaven]

I'll try to study it first. Good approach. Take your time. You may find a Bible concordance and a good Bible dictionary to be very helpful...if you want to save time.

BTW, I am not only a pro-tither only but also a pro-giver... I am definitely a pro-giver. That I don't support tithing does not mean I oppose giving. While I don't support a certain %, I do believe there are plenty of people can offer a lot - and at times all - of their current financial resources.

What about telling us first of what you know of those things. I created the list, Fredoheaven. I made it based on continued discussions/debates on the topic. A person's answers are very revealing about his/her overall knowledge about tithing in the Bible. I'd rather you investigate and learn without my influence. Comparing our answers may turn out to be very fascinating.

Wow, so be very patient please but I would like to answer NO. 1

FALSE.

Thank you

 

[StandingFirmInChrist]

If we are to believe the Bible, (and we should) the tithe is the LORD's. (Leviticus 27:30) However, it is a specific tithe (agricultural; Leviticus 27:30-33; Deuteromony 14:22-27) for a specific people (sons of Levi, widows, orphans and strangers; Numbers 18:24-26; Deuteronomy 14:28-29) in a specific location (Canaan/Israel; Deuteronomy 6:1-3; 12:10-11) that the LORD said was His.

In light of what the Bible says concerning God's holy tithe, no Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, or Teacher (the five offices in Ephesians 4:11) has the right or authority to teach that God's holy tithe is, or should be, monetary

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

Wow, so be very patient please but I would like to answer NO. 1

FALSE.

Thank you

Probably easier to just present all answers at once. That would definitely reduce the number of posts to look through, which I think will be quite helpful.

My answer to #1 is False as well.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

If we are to believe the Bible, (and we should) the tithe is the LORD's. (Leviticus 27:30) However, it is a specific tithe (agricultural; Leviticus 27:30-33; Deuteromony 14:22-27) for a specific people (sons of Levi, widows, orphans and strangers; Numbers 18:24-26; Deuteronomy 14:28-29) in a specific location (Canaan/Israel; Deuteronomy 6:1-3; 12:10-11) that the LORD said was His.

In light of what the Bible says concerning God's holy tithe, no Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, or Teacher (the five offices in Ephesians 4:11) has the right or authority to teach that God's holy tithe is, or should be, monetary

Bud, who you talking with/at/to?

Addressing a person(s) or quoting the person(s) is helpful.

 

[StandingFirmInChrist]

Bud, who you talking with/at/to?

Addressing a person(s) or quoting the person(s) is helpful.

It wasn't to anyone in particular. Just some deep thoughts.

 

[fredoheaven]

Probably easier to just present all answers at once. That would definitely reduce the number of posts to look through, which I think will be quite helpful.

My answer to #1 is False as well.

Hi.

2. False
3. False
4. True
5.False
6. False
7. False
8. False

Should I now congratulate myself?

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

Hi.

2. False
3. False
4. True
5.False
6. False
7. False
8. False

Should I now congratulate myself?

Thought I was supposed to be patient and wait? Well this didn't take very long!

Should I now congratulate myself? You are the first and only person to answer all 8 of the T/F statements. Bravo!! I find it fascinating that we disagree on the topic even though we agree on all of the T/F statements. It is my opinion that a majority of pro-tithers would answer the T/F questions differently. One person who has participated in this thread has pretty much stated just that.

Tithe in Hebrew means the tenth. As for you T/F questions most are true. However, have read about the little boy that gave the fish and bread and how it feed 5,000 men not counting women and children. God will bless the tithe. Guess who took home the 12 baskets of leftovers?

1. T/F - All tithes in O.T. times were brought to the storehouse.
Fredoheaven: False..........Test_F_i_2_luv: False..........Average Pro-tither: True

2. T/F - Tithes were always delivered to the storehouse by the tither.
Fredoheaven: False..........Test_F_i_2_luv: False..........Average Pro-tither: True

3. T/F - Tithes and firstfruits and offerings are all the same thing; the words are synonymous.
Fredoheaven: False..........Test_F_i_2_luv: False..........Average Pro-tither: True

4. T/F - In O.T. times, Israelites were allowed to eat part of a tithe.
Fredoheaven: True..........Test_F_i_2_luv: True..........Average Pro-tither: False

5. T/F - In O.T. times, one tithe was due on agriculture and livestock.
Fredoheaven: False..........Test_F_i_2_luv: False..........Average Pro-tither: True

6. T/F - In O.T. times, the first of every 10 animals was part of a tithe. It was to be the finest and best of the flock.
Fredoheaven: False..........Test_F_i_2_luv: False..........Average Pro-tither: True

7. T/F - In O.T. times, tithing was done on agriculture every year.
Fredoheaven: False..........Test_F_i_2_luv: False..........Average Pro-tither: True

8. T/F - In O.T. times, the Israelites were encouraged to tithe on cash/coins/precious metals.
Fredoheaven: False..........Test_F_i_2_luv: False..........Average Pro-tither: True

Since I wrote 'Heck, regardless of your answers, I might even give you a "like" if you can pull off the feat.', I have done as I suggested I would.



More discussion when I'm more awake.

 

[StandingFirmInChrist]

If tithes were required for the Christian Church, and a biblical pattern was to be followed as Abram's day:

If a family member was kidnapped, a churchgoer could put together a small army composed of servants from his own household. As he traveled on his rescue meeting, he could enlist more men to assist him from other cities.

A sneak attack proved to work for Abram, so another night attack would seem the proper choice. After killing the family member's captives, and recovering any stolen goods, find a godly king to give ten percent of the recovered goods to. Give the remaining goods to their rightful owners.

Keep none of the recovered goods for yourself!

If you are not a fighter, to prevent getting maimed or killed in battle, you might want to emulate the children of ancient Israel and their method of tithing instead of going to war.

Providing that you are a Landowner in the congregation who owns a farm and/or an orchard, you would be required to take a tithe of your agricultural increase to Lower Church Staff (all descendants of one man) such as Ushers, Song Leaders, Musicians, Treasurers, Teachers, Grounds Keepers & Janitors.

The tithes would be strictly from agricultural increase, and would be taken by the Lower Church Staff in the farming communities.

The Lower Church Staff would, in turn, be required to carry a tithe of the tithe to storerooms in the building where the Pastoral Team, the Upper Church Staff (descendants of the same man that the Lower Church Staff are descendants of) and the Lower Church Staff together exercised their daily duties.

Of course, the Bible lets us know that tithing was never a requirement for the Christian Church, so you can stop trying to figure it out and instead rest in God's wonderful Grace.

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

7. T/F - In O.T. times, tithing was done on agriculture every year.
Fredoheaven: False..........Test_F_i_2_luv: False..........Average Pro-tither: True

If this isn't true, when and on what was it done?

 

[roaringkitten]

If this isn't true, when and on what was it done?

On question #7, Every third year this tithe was brought. Read Deut 14:28-29, 26:12-13. Deut 14:22-26 gives examples of what this tithe contains.

 

[StandingFirmInChrist]

If this isn't true, when and on what was it done?

Every seventh year, the land was to rest. No planting, no harvesting.

Not sure if God prevented births among flocks and herds though, so there may have been a livestock tithe the seventh year.

 

[StandingFirmInChrist]

On question #7, Every third year this tithe was brought. Read Deut 14:28-29, 26:12-13. Deut 14:22-26 gives examples of what this tithe contains.

Some believe "the year of tithing" was speaking of there being three tithes every third year, (more tithes given than other years when there were only two tithes) in a seven year cycle; the Levitical tithe, the Feast tithe, and the poor tithe.

 

[roaringkitten]

Some believe "the year of tithing" was speaking of there being three tithes every third year, (more tithes given than other years when there were only two tithes) in a seven year cycle; the Levitical tithe, the Feast tithe, and the poor tithe.

That is a good point, as the 7th year the land rested(Leviticus 25). But don't dare ask those tithe preachers for a break!

 

[oyster67]

This is one of his favorite topics, hate for him (referring to yet) to miss it. I believe he means well.

It is quite humorous to read some threads in reverse direction. The thought that comes to mind is, "Don't worry, he won't !"

 

[RobbyEarl]

I wouldn't want to be born a Levite nor a son of Aaron in this forum.

 

[oyster67]

Have always had mixed thoughts on tithing. Being raised in an independent fundamental baptist church, tithing was preached on quite often (and many things were preached against...topic for another thread someday maybe). Believed not tithing was a sin for many years, then one day it dawned on me that maybe tithing could be done another way...giving to those in need. Giving to the local christian radio ministry as it is listener supported. Buying groceries for those in hardship, etc. And doing away with the word tithing altogether and call it giving out of love for my fellow brother / sister / those in need. Sure the local church needs to be funded to stay operational, and that is where folk "pitch in" to cover costs and fund certain ministries and food pantries and such. Just my two cents.

I guess I grew up in a similar situation. Tithing seems to have been such a holy and sacred cow that I never thought to question it or be Berrean about it. I knew that it was tied in with the magic fraction of 1/10, but assumed that if everyone else in my little pond was doing it, then it must be right. I now realize that one who has a mind and desire to live for Christ and die to self is apt to give a whole lot more than 10% of his filthy lucre. Out with the OT way, in with the new and better way.

 

[RobbyEarl]

Satan has long been against the tithe, because He knows that church with money can't exist.

 

[RobbyEarl]

Said that wrong that a church WITHOUT money can not exist. Show me how?

 

[Dino246]

Said that wrong that a church WITHOUT money can not exist. Show me how?

You are still making the mistake of equating tithing with giving. Until you understand the distinction between them, you won't understand the argument against tithing in the Christian church. It's been explained several times on this thread.

 

[RobbyEarl]

You are still making the mistake of equating tithing with giving. Until you understand the distinction between them, you won't understand the argument against tithing in the Christian church. It's been explained several times on this thread.

Tithing is giving. It was only required in the OT. In the NT it is a gift to God and God uses that gift to further the gospel and to feed His flock. With out the tithe we would be starved of the bread that should be in His house.