The TWO WITNESSES

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Some guy came on one of the threads last week claiming the Resurrection of the dead already occurred.
I posted 2 Timothy 2:16-18 and he said that it does not apply because it already occured as well.
I think they banned him
Yeah that's what's called full preterism and it's usually considered a heresy on most forums.
 
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Yeah that's what's called full preterism and it's usually considered a heresy on most forums.
i don't follow all these doctrines that are out there - i just study what's written, comparing scripture with scripture
 

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No they are not symbolic, they are real....it is made even harder because human nature tends to stick to what it knows.........
(if it's" witnesses" they must be human,)....the treaty of Waitangi, is a witness to the occupation of New Zealand.
the declaration of Independence,...we weren't there to witness it but we have the signed document as a witness that it happened
and I AM neither Catholic nor 7 day Adventist.

I believe Jesus's death and sacrifice saves me but.... ..I AM not Lutheran
I believe in baptism by submersion....................................I AM not Baptist.
I believe in evangelising and spreading the word.......I AM not Mormon
I believe in the Saturday Sabbath........................................I AM not SDA.
I believe in the Holy Trinity......................................................I AM not Catholic.

I'm just like you ?....but I ask the Lord "specifically" to lead my walk....least I lean into my own understanding
 

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I AM not baptised into any church ...I AM baptised to and in the name of the FATHER, the SON, & the HOLY SPIRIT.....this is the church I serve
 
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I AM not baptised into any church ...I AM baptised to and in the name of the FATHER, the SON, & the HOLY SPIRIT.....this is the church I serve
Have you read Acts
 

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Have you read Acts
yes I have a few years back and intermittently when my studies require me too, that goes for all the books in the Bible...
???....why do ask?
 
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yes I have a few years back and intermittently when my studies require me too, that goes for all the books in the Bible...
???....why do ask?
what do you know of John 1 and Acts 1
 

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No they are not symbolic, they are real....it is made even harder because human nature tends to stick to what it knows.........
(if it's" witnesses" they must be human,)....the treaty of Waitangi, is a witness to the occupation of New Zealand.
the declaration of Independence,...we weren't there to witness it but we have the signed document as a witness that it happened
and I AM neither Catholic nor 7 day Adventist.

I believe Jesus's death and sacrifice saves me but.... ..I AM not Lutheran
I believe in baptism by submersion....................................I AM not Baptist.
I believe in evangelising and spreading the word.......I AM not Mormon
I believe in the Saturday Sabbath........................................I AM not SDA.
I believe in the Holy Trinity......................................................I AM not Catholic.

I'm just like you ?....but I ask the Lord "specifically" to lead my walk....least I lean into my own understanding
"Metaphor" I think that is the word I have been looking for these past few days concerning this topic
that's what the book of Revelations is, Metaphoric: a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else.
I had to look it up, once it hit me, to make sure it was what I was meaning...double check...lol
 
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"Metaphor" I think that is the word I have been looking for these past few days concerning this topic
that's what the book of Revelations is, Metaphoric: a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else.
I had to look it up, once it hit me, to make sure it was what I was meaning...double check...lol
Transliteration First it's Revelation no s at the end

ap-ok-al'-oop-sis

feminine noun

From ἀποκαλύπτω (G601)
ἀποκαλύψεις — 1x
ἀποκαλύψεων — 1x
ἀποκαλύψεως — 3x
ἀποκάλυψιν — 7x
Ἀποκάλυψις — 1x
KJV Translation Count — Total: 18x
The KJV translates Strong's G602 in the following manner: revelation (12x), be revealed (2x), to lighten (with G1519) (1x), manifestation (1x), coming (1x), appearing (1x).
 

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Transliteration First it's Revelation no s at the end

ap-ok-al'-oop-sis

feminine noun

From ἀποκαλύπτω (G601)
ἀποκαλύψεις — 1x
ἀποκαλύψεων — 1x
ἀποκαλύψεως — 3x
ἀποκάλυψιν — 7x
Ἀποκάλυψις — 1x
KJV Translation Count — Total: 18x
The KJV translates Strong's G602 in the following manner: revelation (12x), be revealed (2x), to lighten (with G1519) (1x), manifestation (1x), coming (1x), appearing (1x).
the only thing I understand of this your disapproval of the lette,r s, sorry that's from not having a formal education...but...there are more than one revelation in that book
 
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the only thing I understand of this your disapproval of the lette,r s, sorry that's from not having a formal education...but...there are more than one revelation in that book
yea i like the Greek over the english it not about gods dislike of of r or s Only because i'v read the english many times.God likes go head and read the Greek.
 

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the word is "METAPHOR"......most of the book of REVELATION are metaphor's
sorry I only know English
 

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Remember brother's and sister's, ...the Bible is one big story, narrative, picture,.... that is written by other stories within it.
the main characters are GOD, Jesus, Holy Spirit,.....and Lucifer.
when we read the Bible it must be as a whole...we have "In the beginning" and it starts there....We learn the character of GOD, the sacrifice of our saviour, & the Intercession of the Holy Spirit to counter....Lucifer....through so many of those stories contained in the Bible,
All the information we gather from reading the Bible, builds one big picture, that culminates in the separation of the saved from the dammed.
One big jigsaw puzzle who's pieces we must never forget where we placed, & as that puzzle fill's up, we should get a brighter, clearer understanding of what it is to be a child of the LORD, & the sacrifices we must take to achieve his GRACE.
GODblessusall
 
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the word is "METAPHOR"......most of the book of REVELATION are metaphor's
sorry I only know English
I only want you to be sorry if want to be. for not knowing the bible languages.I mean as motavitation
 

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I only want you to be sorry if want to be. for not knowing the bible languages.I mean as motavitation
I'm sorry I don't know Greek......I understand the Bible quite clearly......look up the word "METAPHOR" read what it means...that's what I AM saying the book of REVELATION is..........do you understand what I AM saying.
 
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I'm sorry I don't know Greek......I understand the Bible quite clearly......look up the word "METAPHOR" read what it means...that's what I AM saying the book of REVELATION is..........do you understand what I AM saying.
:)
A simile is like making a comparison, 1[As a heart of a whale] 2 a metaphor is when you express something is like something else poetically.3 you may use an analogy to express a point of view and you give an example of how something is like something eles. like the flow of water is like amps is flow of electricity.4 and a parable is a story that can be interpreted usually to give moral or ethic meaning
 

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:)
A simile is like making a comparison, 1[As a heart of a whale] 2 a metaphor is when you express something is like something else poetically.3 you may use an analogy to express a point of view and you give an example of how something is like something eles. like the flow of water is like amps is flow of electricity.4 and a parable is a story that can be interpreted usually to give moral or ethic meaning
yes like the scarlet woman the mother of all harlots, and the woman hidden in the wilderness.
like Revelation: 11 V 3......
 
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yes like the scarlet woman the mother of all harlots, and the woman hidden in the wilderness.
like Revelation: 11 V 3......
Would u understand if i used a simile? If i said you need the heart of a whale and the eyes of a dove?
 

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Would u understand if i used a simile? If i said you need the heart of a whale and the eyes of a dove?
a big heart and clear sight....
Scarlet woman mother of harlots....woman hidden in the wilderness ???