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The commandment is to remember the Sabbath. We remember the Sabbath by glorifying Jesus Christ. As Hebrews 4:3 states, "Now we who have believed enter that rest." Verses 9-11 add, "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his. Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their (Israelites) example of disobedience." How do we enter the rest? By believing the work is finished rather than believing our efforts secure it for us.
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derp. I worded the last sentence in my comment incorrectly. It should say "If you think being normal on Saturdays is sin, then to you it is sin". In other words, if you believe you have to act differently on Saturdays than you normally do, and don't, then to you it is sin.
And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Romans 14:23
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When God said don't eat of the tree, and Adam disobeyed, was it wrong ???
Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
It was a plain command. it was a specific tree. It was a sin to disobey.
God said to remember the sabbath day and keep it holy.
God is specific about which day and about what we should and should not do.
Ex 20:9 "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work,"
You said "it's not unrighteous for me to do whatever I want on Saturdays". That sounds rebelious, that sounds like your disobeying God.
All the trees in the garden were good for food and were created by God but God specificly said not to eat of one tree. God said specificly not to work on one day.
Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
It was a plain command. it was a specific tree. It was a sin to disobey.
God said to remember the sabbath day and keep it holy.
God is specific about which day and about what we should and should not do.
Ex 20:9 "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work,"
You said "it's not unrighteous for me to do whatever I want on Saturdays". That sounds rebelious, that sounds like your disobeying God.
All the trees in the garden were good for food and were created by God but God specificly said not to eat of one tree. God said specificly not to work on one day.
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Just as God did from His.
IF we follow Gods example of resting we will stop labouring. God didn't need to rest from works because He was stressed, exhausted or heavy laden or because He needed to rest in the salvation of Christ. God rested as an example for us.
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
True Christ is our rest 24/ 7 but this verse in Heb 4 is also pointing to the literal rest that God had..... " Just as God did from His."
IF we follow Gods example of resting we will stop labouring. God didn't need to rest from works because He was stressed, exhausted or heavy laden or because He needed to rest in the salvation of Christ. God rested as an example for us.
Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
True Christ is our rest 24/ 7 but this verse in Heb 4 is also pointing to the literal rest that God had..... " Just as God did from His."
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From what did God rest? From creating! We didn't do any creating, so we can't rest from creating "just as God did from His". We rest from the labour of trying to be righteous by following the Law which we can never do perfectly. If you're going to claim that God rested as an example for us, you must accept that He rested completely from creating. He did not start creating again on the eighth day! In Christ we rest completely, not just for one day.
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So are you saying we rest....stop trying to be honest, stop trying to... not steal, not murder, not take the Lord's name in vain.
Are you saying stop trying to be righteous because we fail.....
Because of Jesus we can sin and sin some more. Perfect rest = sinning.
Rom 6:1-2
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Why would we need to rest from What is Holy and Just and Good, and spiritual
Rom 7:12-14 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. 13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Are you saying stop trying to be righteous because we fail.....
Because of Jesus we can sin and sin some more. Perfect rest = sinning.
Rom 6:1-2
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Why would we need to rest from What is Holy and Just and Good, and spiritual
Rom 7:12-14 12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. 13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful. 14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
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When God rested on the 7th day of creation He blessed and sanctified that day.
Nowhere in scripture does it say this has changed.
Nothing has changed...
The sabbath is still sanctified and blessed.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Where does the bible say anything has changed.
Nowhere in scripture does it say this has changed.
Nothing has changed...
The sabbath is still sanctified and blessed.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Where does the bible say anything has changed.
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It seems that the word law is being mixed up... LAW.
In the new testement G3551 nomos occures 197 in the KJV. More then 90% of the time when the word law is uses it is from "nomos".
Nomos = law.
From a primary word νέμω nemō (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), generally (regulation), specifically (of Moses [including the volume]; also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle): - law.
Today there are many types of laws. laws of nature, civil, national, social laws, moral laws, and they vary for different people, places and conditions. When i talk about a law the context is important.. This law is important......(which law).....The laws of gravity are important or the laws that tell me not to speed are important or the laws that control the stock market are important..... See how the context makes all the difference.
When you read the bible there are different laws also.
The natural laws were laws that God set in place at creation. They include laws like gravity and health priciples. We need oxygen to survive is a simple law of nature. The laws of diet and health are included in these laws.
The civil laws define the rights and responsibilities of people, groups or organisations in their time as a nation. God gave laws to Israel regarding things like the borders for each tribe and the penalty for crimes.
The ceremonial laws were given to the people in relation to the sanctuary, its services and feasts. God gave the Ceremonial Laws to the Israelites to teach them the way or plan He was going to follow to save mankind from the terrible results of sin
include instructions on regaining right standing with God (e.g., sacrifices and other ceremonies regarding “uncleanness”), remembrances of God’s work in Israel (e.g., feasts and festivals). Psa 77:13 Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?
The moral laws are given to define sin. To show us what is right and wrong. laws to show what is moral... a standard of what is right and good.
Understanding which law is being talked about is important. I admit that in some places it is hard to understand which law is being refered to but the context and study of the bible makes things clear.
Knowing that the law of circumcision is no longer valid helps when we look at the big picture.
Roms 3:30.
The moral law is still valid today and we should make every effort to obey it. Not to be saved but because we want to reflect the character of our Loving Saviour.
In the new testement G3551 nomos occures 197 in the KJV. More then 90% of the time when the word law is uses it is from "nomos".
Nomos = law.
From a primary word νέμω nemō (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage), generally (regulation), specifically (of Moses [including the volume]; also of the Gospel), or figuratively (a principle): - law.
Today there are many types of laws. laws of nature, civil, national, social laws, moral laws, and they vary for different people, places and conditions. When i talk about a law the context is important.. This law is important......(which law).....The laws of gravity are important or the laws that tell me not to speed are important or the laws that control the stock market are important..... See how the context makes all the difference.
When you read the bible there are different laws also.
The natural laws were laws that God set in place at creation. They include laws like gravity and health priciples. We need oxygen to survive is a simple law of nature. The laws of diet and health are included in these laws.
The civil laws define the rights and responsibilities of people, groups or organisations in their time as a nation. God gave laws to Israel regarding things like the borders for each tribe and the penalty for crimes.
The ceremonial laws were given to the people in relation to the sanctuary, its services and feasts. God gave the Ceremonial Laws to the Israelites to teach them the way or plan He was going to follow to save mankind from the terrible results of sin
include instructions on regaining right standing with God (e.g., sacrifices and other ceremonies regarding “uncleanness”), remembrances of God’s work in Israel (e.g., feasts and festivals). Psa 77:13 Thy way, O God, is in the sanctuary: who is so great a God as our God?
The moral laws are given to define sin. To show us what is right and wrong. laws to show what is moral... a standard of what is right and good.
Understanding which law is being talked about is important. I admit that in some places it is hard to understand which law is being refered to but the context and study of the bible makes things clear.
Knowing that the law of circumcision is no longer valid helps when we look at the big picture.
Roms 3:30.
The moral law is still valid today and we should make every effort to obey it. Not to be saved but because we want to reflect the character of our Loving Saviour.
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The 10 commandments are moral laws.
1. “no other gods,” including our phone or money today. we should put God first.
2. “no idols.” Christians must have no physical or mental images that we worship.
3. “not in vain.” We should not take God’s name in vain with respect to his worship, or in promises. Perhaps the worst sin is not profanity, but lip service. Luther once said that God is sometimes more pleased with the curses of the wicked than the “hallelujahs” of the pious. Today we can proclam God in church but act like the devil at work.
4. “remember the Sabbath.” We must set aside the time made holy for our Lord. A time for worship, fellowship, and devotion to our Lord. A gift from the Lord each week.
5. “honor your father and mother.” we can learn so much from good parents, hopefully we will not make the same mistakes as they have, Morals are often lost when we do not respect and honor our parents.
6. “you shall not murder.” Life is not ours to give or take. We need to love and help the poor not only because God commands it, but because people are made in the image of God.
7. “you shall not commit adultery.” Marriage and family are at the core of society. If they fail, society will become poorer economically and spiritually.
8. “you shall not steal.” this law allows trust to form between people.
9. “you shall not bear false witness.” again this law allows trust to form between people. In today’s culture, like every culture “the truth will set you free"
10. “you shall not covet.” greed and envy results in unhealthy desires which hurts our relationships and ourselves.
coveting was the thing that caused the devil to sin.
These laws were given by God Himself to help us understand how to Love the Lord and how to Love each other.
All apply today.
1. “no other gods,” including our phone or money today. we should put God first.
2. “no idols.” Christians must have no physical or mental images that we worship.
3. “not in vain.” We should not take God’s name in vain with respect to his worship, or in promises. Perhaps the worst sin is not profanity, but lip service. Luther once said that God is sometimes more pleased with the curses of the wicked than the “hallelujahs” of the pious. Today we can proclam God in church but act like the devil at work.
4. “remember the Sabbath.” We must set aside the time made holy for our Lord. A time for worship, fellowship, and devotion to our Lord. A gift from the Lord each week.
5. “honor your father and mother.” we can learn so much from good parents, hopefully we will not make the same mistakes as they have, Morals are often lost when we do not respect and honor our parents.
6. “you shall not murder.” Life is not ours to give or take. We need to love and help the poor not only because God commands it, but because people are made in the image of God.
7. “you shall not commit adultery.” Marriage and family are at the core of society. If they fail, society will become poorer economically and spiritually.
8. “you shall not steal.” this law allows trust to form between people.
9. “you shall not bear false witness.” again this law allows trust to form between people. In today’s culture, like every culture “the truth will set you free"
10. “you shall not covet.” greed and envy results in unhealthy desires which hurts our relationships and ourselves.
coveting was the thing that caused the devil to sin.
These laws were given by God Himself to help us understand how to Love the Lord and how to Love each other.
All apply today.
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All of the law is moral.
moral /môr′əl, mŏr′-/
adjective
moral /môr′əl, mŏr′-/
adjective
- Of or concerned with the judgment of right or wrong of human action and character.
"moral scrutiny; a moral quandary." - Teaching or exhibiting goodness or correctness of character and behavior.
"a moral lesson." - Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior; virtuous.
Yes, it says so right in Hebrews
Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
When did God cease from His works?
Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;
Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.
When did God cease from His works?
Heb 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;
Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
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God's works is not works of flesh Exo 32:16 it is His standard of righteousness Psa 119:172 and His righteousness is everlasting Psa 119:142
Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.
Our works instead of obeying God's =sin. 1 John 3:4
So lets enter into Christ saving rest and also cease from our works as God did from His Heb 4:10 on the seventh day Heb 4:4 Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3 Trust God that He knows what's best for us.
Exo 32:16 Now the tablets were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God engraved on the tablets.
Our works instead of obeying God's =sin. 1 John 3:4
So lets enter into Christ saving rest and also cease from our works as God did from His Heb 4:10 on the seventh day Heb 4:4 Exo 20:11 Gen 2:1-3 Trust God that He knows what's best for us.
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The Bible doesn't say that.
We are not saved by works of the law. But keeping the law is a good thing.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
God is telling me it is a blessing to keep the commandments.
We are not saved by works of the law. But keeping the law is a good thing.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
God is telling me it is a blessing to keep the commandments.
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It's a blessing to do the righteousness of the commandments, which is faith and love, but God is telling me works of law are a curse
For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. Galatians 3:10-12
The moral law defines sin.
Eg... remember the sabbath to keep it holy.
The law of gravity doesn't define sin.
It is a law that God put in place and all of nature obeys it.
The ceremonial laws were mostly there to point forward to Jesus and remind them of the past. . To help them understand the solution to sin.
The passover ceremony was not given to define sin. It was to save the first born from the plague of death.. Exo 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ....and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
It all pointed to Jesus and how He would save all mankind.
These laws don't define sin the showed how Jesus would save us from sin.
Eg... remember the sabbath to keep it holy.
The law of gravity doesn't define sin.
It is a law that God put in place and all of nature obeys it.
The ceremonial laws were mostly there to point forward to Jesus and remind them of the past. . To help them understand the solution to sin.
The passover ceremony was not given to define sin. It was to save the first born from the plague of death.. Exo 12:5 Your lamb shall be without blemish, a male of the first year: ....and unleavened bread; and with bitter herbs they shall eat it.
It all pointed to Jesus and how He would save all mankind.
These laws don't define sin the showed how Jesus would save us from sin.
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