The "Man of Sin" Prophecies
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Good day iamsoandso!
I believe that you have a misunderstanding here. It is not the eighth kings who comes up out of the Abyss who is not permitted to harm any plants, trees or grass, but is referring to those demonic beings who resemble locusts and horses prepared for battle. These are the ones who are told not to harm the grass or trees, plants or any green thing.
"And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads."
The angel of the Abyss is their king, which would make these demonic beings his subjects, i.e. lower ranked demons who are under his command.
The 5th trumpet judgement is specifically for tormenting the inhabitants of the earth for five months with tails and stings like that of a scorpion. There are no fatalities associated with this trumpet judgment.
Good day iamsoandso!
I believe that you have a misunderstanding here. It is not the eighth kings who comes up out of the Abyss who is not permitted to harm any plants, trees or grass, but is referring to those demonic beings who resemble locusts and horses prepared for battle. These are the ones who are told not to harm the grass or trees, plants or any green thing.
"And out of the smoke locusts came down on the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth. They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads."
The angel of the Abyss is their king, which would make these demonic beings his subjects, i.e. lower ranked demons who are under his command.
The 5th trumpet judgement is specifically for tormenting the inhabitants of the earth for five months with tails and stings like that of a scorpion. There are no fatalities associated with this trumpet judgment.
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Did I mention grammatical errors? No.
Does your parroting of my post add anything to the conversation? No.
Did I say anything about which you could reasonably connect my comment to Galatians? No.
Does your quotation of Proverbs 26 have anything to do with my post? No.
Does your repetition add anything to the conversation? No.
Zero for five. There's some learning for you, if you care to learn.
Does your parroting of my post add anything to the conversation? No.
Did I say anything about which you could reasonably connect my comment to Galatians? No.
Does your quotation of Proverbs 26 have anything to do with my post? No.
Does your repetition add anything to the conversation? No.
Zero for five. There's some learning for you, if you care to learn.
They were questions. Grammatical or spiritual ? Two down LOL
Proverbs 26 is applied to both of our private interpretations yours and mine. We must be careful how we hear or say sparks can fly.
You as it seems keep suggesting but then avoid using scripture to show where you gather your information in many conversations .You simply say many times I do not lean on your understanding.
I don't think we need a man to teach us ( the the MO of the antichrists. )
I think a good tool to start as one the tools he has given us so that we can learn to walk by faith. It is found in 2 Corinthians 4:18. It is the key needed to rightly divide the parables giving us the hidden signified understanding .
Revealing the mysteries hid in times past as a form of prophecy. . . fulfilled .
Some say parables create the mysteries of fairy tales, bedtime stories. Seeing no value in the things not seen . Like Esau who sold his birth rite for a cup of goat Chili. Or Cain sold his birth rite for peace of mind out of sight out of mind. .. faithless. Or Onan who spilled the first born seed for a little childless space invaders peace of mind also seeing no value in the unseen mysteries of God .
Abel the first recorded martyr/ apostle.
Proverbs 26 is applied to both of our private interpretations yours and mine. We must be careful how we hear or say sparks can fly.
You as it seems keep suggesting but then avoid using scripture to show where you gather your information in many conversations .You simply say many times I do not lean on your understanding.
I don't think we need a man to teach us ( the the MO of the antichrists. )
I think a good tool to start as one the tools he has given us so that we can learn to walk by faith. It is found in 2 Corinthians 4:18. It is the key needed to rightly divide the parables giving us the hidden signified understanding .
Revealing the mysteries hid in times past as a form of prophecy. . . fulfilled .
Some say parables create the mysteries of fairy tales, bedtime stories. Seeing no value in the things not seen . Like Esau who sold his birth rite for a cup of goat Chili. Or Cain sold his birth rite for peace of mind out of sight out of mind. .. faithless. Or Onan who spilled the first born seed for a little childless space invaders peace of mind also seeing no value in the unseen mysteries of God .
Abel the first recorded martyr/ apostle.
Irrelevant... again.
Which verse?
I have provided Scripture where Scripture provides the needed material, but you have consistently ignored the correction. In other cases, Scripture is not the correct tool. For example, I couldn't possibly explain "circular reasoning" to you using Scripture, because it is not discussed in Scripture. That hasn't stopped you from inventing your own supposedly scriptural definition, which is completely wrong.
That's a key part of the problem: you don't think you need a teacher, but you're in error in so many things that you really do. You didn't listen to your English teachers, and now you struggle with the English language, but you're too stubborn to take a class and get the instruction you so desperately need.
Who are these "Some"? Name them, please, and explain how the comments of "some people" are relevant to your discussion with me.
What does Abel have to do with any of this? Do you have any comprehension of "relevance"? Or are you just going to keep throwing disconnected comments into your posts so that more readers give up on trying to understand you?
Which verse?
I have provided Scripture where Scripture provides the needed material, but you have consistently ignored the correction. In other cases, Scripture is not the correct tool. For example, I couldn't possibly explain "circular reasoning" to you using Scripture, because it is not discussed in Scripture. That hasn't stopped you from inventing your own supposedly scriptural definition, which is completely wrong.
That's a key part of the problem: you don't think you need a teacher, but you're in error in so many things that you really do. You didn't listen to your English teachers, and now you struggle with the English language, but you're too stubborn to take a class and get the instruction you so desperately need.
Who are these "Some"? Name them, please, and explain how the comments of "some people" are relevant to your discussion with me.
What does Abel have to do with any of this? Do you have any comprehension of "relevance"? Or are you just going to keep throwing disconnected comments into your posts so that more readers give up on trying to understand you?
The word used in Ezekiel 5 - "ur" - more so means "flame", not fire.
Oh don't get me wrong, indeed they are two different Hebrew words. I'm just saying I think there was a scribal error long ago with copying from the original Hebrew manuscripts that led to the Hebrew word for fire being accidentally rewritten as the word for "woman" in Zechariah 5...simply add one letter.
Aleph + Shin = word for fire
Aleph + Shin + Hah = word for woman
Of course, the Almighty is sovereign and can give any prophetic imagery He wants, I'm simply suggesting that it's possibly man's error that accidentally altered the prophetic vision we're originally meant to see when reading the chapter in question...kind of like when Moses struck the 2nd rock at Meribah twice. He altered the prophecy by suggesting The Messiah (our rock) would be struck/crucified a second time to give us the living water.
So the vision in Zechariah 5 appears to harmonize when we replace "woman" with "fire" in the passage...but I can't really prove this was human error after thousands of years and hundreds of translations, without access to the original manuscripts.
I just thought it was a pretty cool find
Oh don't get me wrong, indeed they are two different Hebrew words. I'm just saying I think there was a scribal error long ago with copying from the original Hebrew manuscripts that led to the Hebrew word for fire being accidentally rewritten as the word for "woman" in Zechariah 5...simply add one letter.
Aleph + Shin = word for fire
Aleph + Shin + Hah = word for woman
Of course, the Almighty is sovereign and can give any prophetic imagery He wants, I'm simply suggesting that it's possibly man's error that accidentally altered the prophetic vision we're originally meant to see when reading the chapter in question...kind of like when Moses struck the 2nd rock at Meribah twice. He altered the prophecy by suggesting The Messiah (our rock) would be struck/crucified a second time to give us the living water.
So the vision in Zechariah 5 appears to harmonize when we replace "woman" with "fire" in the passage...but I can't really prove this was human error after thousands of years and hundreds of translations, without access to the original manuscripts.
I just thought it was a pretty cool find
So the vision in Zechariah 5 appears to harmonize when we replace "woman" with "fire" in the passage...but I can't really prove this was human error after thousands of years and hundreds of translations, without access to the original manuscripts.
I just thought it was a pretty cool find
I just thought it was a pretty cool find
Hey KJV,
It was the post I made here:
https://christianchat.com/threads/the-man-of-sin-prophecies.191682/post-4245531
...referencing the vision given to Zechariah in chapter 5 about the scroll and woman in ephah covered with lead. Just take a look at the passage replacing the instances of "woman" with "fire" to see what I'm talking about, noting all the details especially of the dimensions of the scroll.
Zechariah 5:7-9 [brackets mine]
7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a [fire] that sitteth in the midst of the ephah [container].
8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.
9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two [fires], and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah [container] between the earth and the heaven.
It was the post I made here:
https://christianchat.com/threads/the-man-of-sin-prophecies.191682/post-4245531
...referencing the vision given to Zechariah in chapter 5 about the scroll and woman in ephah covered with lead. Just take a look at the passage replacing the instances of "woman" with "fire" to see what I'm talking about, noting all the details especially of the dimensions of the scroll.
Zechariah 5:7-9 [brackets mine]
7 And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a [fire] that sitteth in the midst of the ephah [container].
8 And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.
9 Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two [fires], and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah [container] between the earth and the heaven.
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I know it’s hard to see scripture in a different way than how we currently know it but can you see how there might be a relationship between these two verses?
Zec 5:3 (KJV) Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
Gal 3:13 (KJV) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Zec 5:3 (KJV) Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
Gal 3:13 (KJV) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
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