The Lord Jesus and His Holy Scriptures are One (The Scripture Personified) Pt. 1 & 2
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LOL! You keep on asking the same question - and you may if you want - I will try to keep explaining and confirming what I believe.
God's Word is preserved in English in many good English translations. Which one is the best is very open for discussion. Along the way, here, I have mentioned a few translation that I think are good ones: KJV, NASB, and the ESV - but there are also others.
But if you mean that "preservation" is the equivalent of "inspiration" then we are not going to agree here. And that is OK. We do not have to agree. I am just giving what I believe.
Where are the "exact English words preserved for English speakers"? I can't answer that because I am not looking for "exact" words in English. God already gave his "exact" words in the original manuscripts in Greek and Hebrew. The job of translators is to do the very best job possible to make the meaning of those exact words clear, concise, and natural in the words of the language they are translating into. The job of the translators is not to try to duplicate original inspiration.
God's Word is preserved in English in many good English translations. Which one is the best is very open for discussion. Along the way, here, I have mentioned a few translation that I think are good ones: KJV, NASB, and the ESV - but there are also others.
But if you mean that "preservation" is the equivalent of "inspiration" then we are not going to agree here. And that is OK. We do not have to agree. I am just giving what I believe.
Where are the "exact English words preserved for English speakers"? I can't answer that because I am not looking for "exact" words in English. God already gave his "exact" words in the original manuscripts in Greek and Hebrew. The job of translators is to do the very best job possible to make the meaning of those exact words clear, concise, and natural in the words of the language they are translating into. The job of the translators is not to try to duplicate original inspiration.
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Thanks, that's your estimate. You maybe a fine statistician, however, seems out of the 9% are those able to read an English translation and not necessarily KJB. There's no actually problem proclaiming the gospel with vernaculars and since this is not the issue. The issue is if we have an inerrant word of God. Your interaction with most of the young is good but they are not to be standard. The Barna Group had a good stats as well.
https://www.americanbible.org/uploads/content/state-of-the-bible-2019_report_041619_final.pdf
https://www.americanbible.org/uploads/content/state-of-the-bible-2019_report_041619_final.pdf
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If you decide that translation preserves inspiration, then who decides what translators and what translations are inspired?
Maybe I need to ask for clarification. Do you mean that a proper and good translation is just as "inspired" as the original? Or do you mean that translation does an adequate and good job of preserving the original meaning of the text?
You say "double inspiration" is not taught in the Bible. I agree.
So, are the exact words of the KJV (or some other translation) inspired?
Maybe I need to ask for clarification. Do you mean that a proper and good translation is just as "inspired" as the original? Or do you mean that translation does an adequate and good job of preserving the original meaning of the text?
You say "double inspiration" is not taught in the Bible. I agree.
So, are the exact words of the KJV (or some other translation) inspired?
Lol, God’s holy preserved words isn’t the one which is the best one, to be God’s holy preserved words, it would have to be perfect and without error. When God preserves something, He preserves it perfectly without error. Wouldn’t you agree? If it’s not God’s holy preserved words, don’t call it God’s word or scripture. Call it what it is...a false version of God’s word.
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Really? As you are so certain, you can quote me. Except, you can't, because I have said nothing of the sort. You just have your empty accusations to defend. I suggest you look up the meaning of "slander" and consider how you are violating scriptural principles by engaging in it.
The "#laodiceanage" comment is stupid and irrelevant. First, there's nothing in the biblical text to suggest that Jesus was talking about "ages" in Revelation 2 and 3, and second, even if the passage were prophetic of ages, the 'age' that produced the KJV was worse. I'm not discussing this silliness further.
The "#laodiceanage" comment is stupid and irrelevant. First, there's nothing in the biblical text to suggest that Jesus was talking about "ages" in Revelation 2 and 3, and second, even if the passage were prophetic of ages, the 'age' that produced the KJV was worse. I'm not discussing this silliness further.
we could have moved on along time ago but your pride won't allow you to. You want the last word The Philadelphia age brought about the greatest revival the world has ever seen withe KJV leading the way. The Laodicean age began with the rise of the new versions and people not keeping God’s word.
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;
8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.
11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
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What my goal is, as well as other King James Bible believing Christians is to help you come to the place of total trust and faith in God’s promise and ability to keep and preserve His very words.
CS1, the man who is doing the teaching in that video is me.
I simply had received it by reading and studying the word of God. I received this knowledge by simply believing what the Scriptures say on this very matter and subject.
CS1, could you name just some of the Theologians, which I am dismissing?
CS1, we understand that Jesus Christ is our very Saviour who hath saved us from our sins and hath given unto us eternal life. It is also good to understand though that the word of God also saved us and hath quickened us.
Salvation and the New Birth comes also by the very word of God, the Holy Scripture:
1 Peter 1:18-23 KJV
18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. 22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
James 1:18-21 KJV
18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. 19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. 21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
We are quickened by Jesus and His word, the Holy Scriptures:
Romans 4:17 KJV
17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Psalm 119:50 KJV
50 This is my comfort in my affliction: for thy word hath quickened me.
Psalm 119:154 KJV
154 Plead my cause, and deliver me: quicken me according to thy word.
Eternal and Everlasting Life comes by Jesus and also it comes by the word of God:
Acts 13:46-49 KJV
46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. 49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.
Both Jesus and the Bible sanctify us also:
1 Thessalonians 5:23 KJV
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
John 17:17-19 KJV
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
CS1, true worship of God is connected with a great reverence and love also for His holy word. Just read and study Psalm 119. And see How David is worshipping the Lord and at the same time praising and magnifying His word, the holy Scriptures.
Furthermore, we have another place where David is worshipping the Lord and also speaking about his Very word, and it is found in the following Scripture:
Psalm 138:1-5 KJV
138 I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee. 2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. 3 In the day when I cried thou answeredst me, and strengthenedst me with strength in my soul. 4 All the kings of the earth shall praise thee, O Lord, when they hear the words of thy mouth. 5 Yea, they shall sing in the ways of the Lord: for great is the glory of the Lord.
Hence, when we worship the Lord, we also will have a high level of reverence and love also for His word.
It also can be said though, that when we worship the Lord, we are in a sense also worshipping the word of the Lord since Jesus Christ is One with His word, the Holy Scripture.
Even consider this next passage of Scripture:
Psalm 119:47-49 KJV
47 And I will delight myself in thy commandments, which I have loved. 48 My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes. 49 Remember the word unto thy servant, upon which thou hast caused me to hope.
Jesus is the Word of God and The KJV is the word of God.
While Jesus did not have the KJV in His day, since there was no English language in His day. Yet though, He did have the Hebrew Scriptures though. And the Hebrew Scriptures were the Seed of the Bible. The English Bible (King James Bible) of our day is the Matured and completed Bible.
The NIV is corrupt. There are approximately 64,000 words removed from the NIV. This is a fact. I am strongly against the NIV since it attacks the Doctrine of the Deity of Jesus Christ in a number of places.
CS1, the man who is doing the teaching in that video is me.
I simply had received it by reading and studying the word of God. I received this knowledge by simply believing what the Scriptures say on this very matter and subject.
CS1, could you name just some of the Theologians, which I am dismissing?
CS1, we understand that Jesus Christ is our very Saviour who hath saved us from our sins and hath given unto us eternal life. It is also good to understand though that the word of God also saved us and hath quickened us.
Salvation and the New Birth comes also by the very word of God, the Holy Scripture:
1 Peter 1:18-23 KJV
18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God. 22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently: 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
James 1:18-21 KJV
18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. 19 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath: 20 For the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God. 21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
We are quickened by Jesus and His word, the Holy Scriptures:
Romans 4:17 KJV
17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
Psalm 119:50 KJV
50 This is my comfort in my affliction: for thy word hath quickened me.
Psalm 119:154 KJV
154 Plead my cause, and deliver me: quicken me according to thy word.
Eternal and Everlasting Life comes by Jesus and also it comes by the word of God:
Acts 13:46-49 KJV
46 Then Paul and Barnabas waxed bold, and said, It was necessary that the word of God should first have been spoken to you: but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles. 47 For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth. 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. 49 And the word of the Lord was published throughout all the region.
Both Jesus and the Bible sanctify us also:
1 Thessalonians 5:23 KJV
23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
John 17:17-19 KJV
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
CS1, true worship of God is connected with a great reverence and love also for His holy word. Just read and study Psalm 119. And see How David is worshipping the Lord and at the same time praising and magnifying His word, the holy Scriptures.
Furthermore, we have another place where David is worshipping the Lord and also speaking about his Very word, and it is found in the following Scripture:
Psalm 138:1-5 KJV
138 I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee. 2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. 3 In the day when I cried thou answeredst me, and strengthenedst me with strength in my soul. 4 All the kings of the earth shall praise thee, O Lord, when they hear the words of thy mouth. 5 Yea, they shall sing in the ways of the Lord: for great is the glory of the Lord.
Hence, when we worship the Lord, we also will have a high level of reverence and love also for His word.
It also can be said though, that when we worship the Lord, we are in a sense also worshipping the word of the Lord since Jesus Christ is One with His word, the Holy Scripture.
Even consider this next passage of Scripture:
Psalm 119:47-49 KJV
47 And I will delight myself in thy commandments, which I have loved. 48 My hands also will I lift up unto thy commandments, which I have loved; and I will meditate in thy statutes. 49 Remember the word unto thy servant, upon which thou hast caused me to hope.
Jesus is the Word of God and The KJV is the word of God.
While Jesus did not have the KJV in His day, since there was no English language in His day. Yet though, He did have the Hebrew Scriptures though. And the Hebrew Scriptures were the Seed of the Bible. The English Bible (King James Bible) of our day is the Matured and completed Bible.
The NIV is corrupt. There are approximately 64,000 words removed from the NIV. This is a fact. I am strongly against the NIV since it attacks the Doctrine of the Deity of Jesus Christ in a number of places.
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