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Yes you are correct, another part of the Bible say salvation come from faith and faith come from hearing, but in this part (luke10) eternal life or salvation from love God and fellow man.
Is that mean Jesus inconsistent?
No,
I believe it mean faith mean trust to the point love
Devil believe there is God but don't love God
Is that mean Jesus inconsistent?
No,
I believe it mean faith mean trust to the point love
Devil believe there is God but don't love God
You need to read the fuller story in Luke 18…
Luke 18:18-19,21,24-27 KJV
[18] And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? [19] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. [21] And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. [24] And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! [25] For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. [26] And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? [27] And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
Essentially the same question but Jesus gives the reason why salvation is impossible through the law…
1. Only God is good.
2. Salvation is impossible with man but only possible with God.
Luke 18:18-19,21,24-27 KJV
[18] And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? [19] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. [21] And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up. [24] And when Jesus saw that he was very sorrowful, he said, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God! [25] For it is easier for a camel to go through a needle's eye, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. [26] And they that heard it said, Who then can be saved? [27] And he said, The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.
Essentially the same question but Jesus gives the reason why salvation is impossible through the law…
1. Only God is good.
2. Salvation is impossible with man but only possible with God.
Instead of inventing a definition for the term that conveniently elevates you, how about you accept the standard definition? Here it is:
"'Judaizers' refers to Jewish Christians who sought to induce Gentiles to observe Jewish religious custom"
(source: https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/bakers-evangelical-dictionary/judaizers.html)
In a general sense today, the term means those who seek to impose old covenant laws on gentile Christians. It always carries a negative connotation, unlike your made-up version above.
"'Judaizers' refers to Jewish Christians who sought to induce Gentiles to observe Jewish religious custom"
(source: https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/bakers-evangelical-dictionary/judaizers.html)
In a general sense today, the term means those who seek to impose old covenant laws on gentile Christians. It always carries a negative connotation, unlike your made-up version above.
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Impossible for a man or law?
There are 2 different statement
Impossible for a man without grace yes.
Impossible with the law?
What is the definition of law?
Quote
the system of rules which a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties.
"they were taken to court for breaking the law"
End quote
Law is rule
Impossible for a man to save by OT law
Is that mean impossible by NT law?
For example NT law
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
This is Jesus law
Is that impossible?
There are 2 different statement
Impossible for a man without grace yes.
Impossible with the law?
What is the definition of law?
Quote
the system of rules which a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties.
"they were taken to court for breaking the law"
End quote
Law is rule
Impossible for a man to save by OT law
Is that mean impossible by NT law?
For example NT law
John 3:16
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
This is Jesus law
Is that impossible?
Is there a verse that say I am must be perfect to be save?
Yes Jesus say be perfect but is He say for salvation?
Seem to me Jesus want me to make effort as much as I can to love God and fellow man to be save ( Luke 10)
And He will help me to do it if I am abide in Him ( john 15)
5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
Apart from me(Jesus) I can do nothing (can not ber fruits of love)
But He promise, if I remain in Him, I will bear fruits, it may not produce because I am not producer. Jesus is and I only bear it, that enough for salvation.
If you not bear fruit et all you will be burn or hell or not save
6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7
Verse 6 say, no fruits /love( another part of the Bible say fruits of Holy Spirit is love) will be burn on mire/hell
Yes Jesus say be perfect but is He say for salvation?
Seem to me Jesus want me to make effort as much as I can to love God and fellow man to be save ( Luke 10)
And He will help me to do it if I am abide in Him ( john 15)
5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.
Apart from me(Jesus) I can do nothing (can not ber fruits of love)
But He promise, if I remain in Him, I will bear fruits, it may not produce because I am not producer. Jesus is and I only bear it, that enough for salvation.
If you not bear fruit et all you will be burn or hell or not save
6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7
Verse 6 say, no fruits /love( another part of the Bible say fruits of Holy Spirit is love) will be burn on mire/hell
You say salvation is impossible by doing law, am I correct?
I think you need to say what kind of law.
US law, OT law or Jesus Law.
This is the definition of law
Quote from I fort dictionary
the system of rules which a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties.
"they were taken to court for breaking the law"
End quote
By that definition, john 3:16 is a law, by jesus
I not qualified to make a law, because I am not congressman
Jesus more than qualified because He is God
So we are save by doing Jesus law.
I think you need to say what kind of law.
US law, OT law or Jesus Law.
This is the definition of law
Quote from I fort dictionary
the system of rules which a particular country or community recognizes as regulating the actions of its members and which it may enforce by the imposition of penalties.
"they were taken to court for breaking the law"
End quote
By that definition, john 3:16 is a law, by jesus
I not qualified to make a law, because I am not congressman
Jesus more than qualified because He is God
So we are save by doing Jesus law.
Scripture seems to tell us not to relate law keeping and salvation together, yet all these posts seem to do that. According to scripture they only relate because a saved person follows Christ in all things.
These posts seem to ignor Matt 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
It is the law that teaches us about the works that the Lord rewards us for.
These posts seem to ignor Matt 16:27 For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what they have done.
It is the law that teaches us about the works that the Lord rewards us for.
Here is one to try and see how it fits into your 'law keeping' theology...
Galatians 3:1-3 (KJV) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Galatians 3:1-3 (KJV) O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
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