The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

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It redeemed those He died for from Unbelief !
Where do you get your unbiblical information from? No one was redeemed from unbelief. And you KNOW that you don't have a verse that says that.

Humans are redeemed from going to the lake of fire.

By the Cross of Christ, all for whom He died,
You've already admitted in your previous post that the verse that says that Christ died for "the ungodly" means ONLY "the elect".

So, basically, you've got quite a bit of universalism going on. If "the UN-godly" only means "the elect", then the "non-elect" would not be "the ungodly". Therefore, they would be godly, by YOUR OWN claims.

And this isn't something that you will be able to get around.
 

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Re: The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

Jesus' death activated a new covenant for the Jews. (Heb 9:16-28)

It reads like this:

Jer 31:31-34 . . Behold, the days come-- declares The Lord --that I will
make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I
took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which My
covenant they broke, although I was an husband unto them-- declares The
Lord.

. . . But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel:
After those days-- declares The Lord --I will put My law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be My
people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every
man his brother, saying, "know The Lord" for they shall all know Me, from
the least of them unto the greatest of them

FAQ: The new covenant speaks of "My law". Where is it? When God codified
the old covenant, He wrote its law on some tables of stone. Why doesn't the
new covenant have tables of stone?

REPLY: Does anyone need a book of instructions on how to think, feel, and
act like a human? No; their human nature manages all that for them. In
other words: the law of human nature is in their inward parts and written in
their heart. (Rom 7:15-23)

Now, supposing that instead of the law of human nature, there was a law of
divine nature in their inward parts and written in their heart. How would
they think, feel, and act then? Well; I can tell you, with confidence, that they
wouldn't need a book of instructions to think, feel, and act divine because a
law of divine nature would manage all that for them. Is what I'm saying
possible? Yes.

2Pet 1:3-4 . . His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life
and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and
virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious
promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature.

That passage mentions "great and precious promises" relative to the divine
nature. Where are they? Well, they're contained in the language of the new
covenant quoted at the beginning of this posting. The promises are also
contained in the language of Ezek 36:24-28 which says:

"I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries,
and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon
you, and you shall be clean from all your filthiness, and from all your idols,
will I cleanse you.

. . . A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you:
and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an
heart of flesh. And I will put My spirit within you, and cause you to walk in
My statutes, and you shall keep My judgments, and do them. And you shall
dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you shall be My people,
and I will be your God."
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The Just shall live by His Faith !

Hab 2:4

4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.

Shall means its a sure and certain promise effected by the Power of God !

What I am about to explain here is not going to be received to those who are involved in false religion, but the declaration " but the just shall live by his faith"

It is a Divine Promise, a Certain Fact that all for whom Christ died, shall live by his Faith, no exceptions !

Now this is absolutely true because Christ's obedience unto death, for all whom He died, they are by that fact alone made Just Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous or just same word in the original.

The word righteous here is the same greek word dikaios and is also translated the word just 33 times to include here Rom 1:17 where we find a quote of the Divine Promise of Hab 2:4; and so because Christ's death of obedience has made all for whom He died Just, the Divine Promise says they must Live by Faith, or else God's Word of Promise has failed !

Now here is another quote of that same promise Heb 10:38

38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

But now what about those described in the same verse as drawing back ? Its simple, they were not made Just by the obedience of one, they simply are those Christ did not taste death for Heb 2:9, because if He did, then God's Promise cannot fail, which is "Now the just shall live by faith" which is in the future indicative mood !

Hence you show me a person that never begins a life of living by Faith in Christ Jesus, then I show you a person that Christ never died for, and so it is, they believe not, because they are not of my Sheep, whom I lay down my life for Jn 10:11,15,26 ! 23
 

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Re: The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?

Jesus' death activated a new covenant for the Jews. (Heb 9:16-28)

It reads like this:

Jer 31:31-34 . . Behold, the days come-- declares The Lord --that I will
make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I
took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which My
covenant they broke, although I was an husband unto them-- declares The
Lord.


. . . But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel:
After those days-- declares The Lord --I will put My law in their inward parts,
and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be My
people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbor, and every
man his brother, saying, "know The Lord" for they shall all know Me, from
the least of them unto the greatest of them


FAQ: The new covenant speaks of "My law". Where is it? When God codified
the old covenant, He wrote its law on some tables of stone. Why doesn't the
new covenant have tables of stone?


REPLY: Does anyone need a book of instructions on how to think, feel, and
act like a human? No; their human nature manages all that for them. In
other words: the law of human nature is in their inward parts and written in
their heart. (Rom 7:15-23)


Now, supposing that instead of the law of human nature, there was a law of
divine nature in their inward parts and written in their heart. How would
they think, feel, and act then? Well; I can tell you, with confidence, that they
wouldn't need a book of instructions to think, feel, and act divine because a
law of divine nature would manage all that for them. Is what I'm saying
possible? Yes.


2Pet 1:3-4 . . His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life
and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and
virtue, by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious
promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature.


That passage mentions "great and precious promises" relative to the divine
nature. Where are they? Well, they're contained in the language of the new
covenant quoted at the beginning of this posting. The promises are also
contained in the language of Ezek 36:24-28 which says:


"I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries,
and will bring you into your own land. Then will I sprinkle clean water upon
you, and you shall be clean from all your filthiness, and from all your idols,
will I cleanse you.


. . . A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you:
and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an
heart of flesh. And I will put My spirit within you, and cause you to walk in
My statutes, and you shall keep My judgments, and do them. And you shall
dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and you shall be My people,
and I will be your God."
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Error. The New Covenant is for both jew and gentiles, The Church the Spiritual seed of Abraham Israel. Christs atoning death accomplished Salvation for people of all ethnic groups !
 

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Error. The New Covenant is for both jew and gentiles

The language of the new covenant specifically addresses Jesus' countrymen; in particular
the Diaspora. Gentiles are collateral beneficiaries. (Rom 1:16, Rom 11:1-25 & Eph 2:11-13
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The language of the new covenant specifically addresses Jesus' countrymen; in particular
the Diaspora. Gentiles are collateral beneficiaries. (Rom 1:16, Rom 11:1-25 & Eph 2:11-13
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Sorry. the New Covenant covers the Gentiles. Thats why Paul an Apostle to the Gentiles wrote this to the Gentile Church in Corinth 2 Cor 3:3-6

3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.

4 And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:

5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament;
not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
 

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Paul wrote this to the Gentile Church in Corinth 2 Cor 3:3-6 . . .

Paul also wrote the three Bible references posted in #1285

Refuting Paul by quoting Paul is bad business. You've made a serious
blunder.

2 Pet 3:15-16 . .Our beloved brother Paul wrote to you with the wisdom
God gave him . . . Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those
who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters around to mean
something quite different from what he meant, just as they do the other
parts of Scripture-- and the result is disaster for them.
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Paul also wrote the three Bible references posted in #1285

Refuting Paul by quoting Paul is bad business. You've made a serious
blunder.


2 Pet 3:15-16 . .Our beloved brother Paul wrote to you with the wisdom
God gave him . . . Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those
who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters around to mean
something quite different from what he meant, just as they do the other
parts of Scripture-- and the result is disaster for them.
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The New Covenant is for the Gentiles Paul was a New Covenant Minister sent to the Gentiles 2 Cor 3:6

6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

Christs New Covenant Blood was shed for Gentiles Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins

You dont believe Gentiles are included in the many ?
 

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The Just shall live by His Faith and sanctification !

Because the Just shall live by Faith, thats the reason for the sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

Did you know that the word belief here is the same greek word for the word Faith , its the feminine noun pistis :

I.conviction of the truth of anything, belief; in the NT of a conviction or belief respecting man's relationship to God and divine things, generally with the included idea of trust and holy fervour born of faith and joined with it

It is translated faith (239x) This means again that Faith to believe the Truth is through the sanctification of the Spirit, and it fulfills the Promise that the Just shall live by Faith, the same word belief !

The Just shall acknowledge the Truth Titus 1:1

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

So understand, the Just, those Christ made so by His One act of obedience Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous or Just.

They shall live by Faith, through Sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the Truth, the Spirit of God fulfills God promise , that all for whom Christ died and made Just, that they shall live by Faith, or be believing in the Son Jn 3:16 !
 

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The information you seek is located in post #1285
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I will tell you, Christs New Covenant Blood was shed for people of all races Rev 5:9

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

The Blood spoken of here is the same blood spoken of in Matt 26:28

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
 

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The Meaning of John 12:32

John 12:32

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

What this means and is denied by the religion of men crowd, is that as a result of His Cross Work, being lifted up, it will cause all, for whom it was for, to come to Him in Repentance and Faith, yes all for whom He died will come to Him seeking an intimacy and to follow Him Jn 6:37 ! This one verse capsulizes Eph 2:8-9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

In other words, Salvation by Grace through Faith is the Gift of God, it’s the reality of Jn 12:32 coming to past, Eph 2:8 is a Gift of the Saving Effects of Christ and Him Crucified, being lifted up ! That’s why Paul could say 1 Cor 2:2

For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Yes, for the Preaching and expounding of that Message would be God’s ordained way to draw them for whom He was Crucified to Faith in Him ! 23
 
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The Meaning of John 12:32

John 12:32

32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

What this means and is denied by the religion of men crowd, is that as a result of His Cross Work, being lifted up, it will cause all, for whom it was for, to come to Him in Repentance and Faith, yes all for whom He died will come to Him seeking an intimacy and to follow Him Jn 6:37 ! This one verse capsulizes Eph 2:8-9

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

In other words, Salvation by Grace through Faith is the Gift of God, it’s the reality of Jn 12:32 coming to past, Eph 2:8 is a Gift of the Saving Effects of Christ and Him Crucified, being lifted up ! That’s why Paul could say 1 Cor 2:2

For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

Yes, for the Preaching and expounding of that Message would be God’s ordained way to draw them for whom He was Crucified to Faith in Him ! 23
It is hopeless to share truth to you. Your calvinistic eyes are closed to truth.

Jn 12:32 couldn't be more clear. The words "all men" in the Greek is one word; pantas,

pas: all, every
Original Word: πᾶς, πᾶσα, πᾶν
Part of Speech: Adjective
Transliteration: pas
Phonetic Spelling: (pas)
Definition: all, every
Usage: all, the whole, every kind of.

Since it is one word, it CANNOT MEAN "all kinds of", since there isn't any further description. Therefore, it really does just mean "all" or "everyone".

Calvinists reject the biblical doctrine of unlimited atonement in spite of the clear verses.

The Bible says that Christ died for all.

The Bible NEVER says that Christ died ONLY for __________. Go ahead and fill in the blank with whatever you want.

"only for the elect"
"only for believers"
etc.
 

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John 12:32 . . And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to
me.

Well; at the risk of being labeled a Calvanist, or a deplorable-- or whatever
label the left is pinning on folks of late-- I seriously think that verse
should never be taken to indicate that Jesus is busy drawing every last soul
on earth to himself when the drawing itself appears to be regulated by a
higher power.

John 6:44 . . No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent
me draw him:

And on top of that, quite a few folks in the past, quite a few in the now, and
quite a few to come, have never, and will never, hear even one word of the
Gospel before passing on.

Some of the Bible's words don't mean what they say; not from an educated
perspective anyway. Take for example the sixth chapter of John wherein
folks understood Jesus to mean they needed to dine upon his flesh and
blood in order to obtain eternal life. Well; it turns out that he didn't say
what they thought he meant. The thing is: Jesus spoke their language but
their ears weren't attuned to his frequency-- so to speak --because the
words he spoke were secret messages.

John 6:63 . .The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit

Well, as it turns out; the ability to understand spirit words doesn't come
natural; it's endowed.

Rev 2:7 . . He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the
churches.

NOTE: The lexicons in Strong's Concordance are handy, but they are not
intended to make people linguists. The thing is: knowing the proper
definition of a word, and knowing it's proper application, require skills and
abilities normally obtained by means of education and experience; so
enough with the armchair expertise already.
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Delivered from the curse of the Law !

Num 23:8

How shall I curse, whom God hath not cursed? or how shall I defy, whom the Lord hath not defied?

Gal 3:10-13

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

How did Christ do this ? By being made a curse for us !

This being cursed in Vs 10 above , cannot never apply to anyone Christ died for, because by His death He hath redeemed them from the curse of the Law Gal 3:13

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Not by their faith, not by their repentance, not by them obeying, none of that, it was done solely by Him "being made a curse for them"

So the only alternative any of them have is to as stated in Vs 11 Live by Faith Gal 3:11

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

The Just is everyone Christ died for, was made a curse for Rom 5:19

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Look, the Just in Gal 3:11b are the made Righteous in Rom 5:19, its the same greek word in the original dikaios strongs 1342 !

So the death of Christ delivered them from the curse of the law and it made them Just, the promise of God to the Just is again " The just shall live by faith."

And for this cause its not even remotely possible that the Just, those Christ died for and made so, not to live by Faith, and Vs 14 of Gal 3:14

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.


Its the Spirit they receive as the blessing of Abraham [Gen 12:3] which causes them to Live by Faith, and so show themselves to be the Promised Spiritual children of Abraham, that God promised him Gal 3:7

7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

God in the Gospel to Abraham promised to Justify his seed by Faith Gal 3:8

8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen [Abraham's Seed] through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Again Rom 3:29-30

29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:

30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.


Rom 4:16-17a

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,

So in conclusion those Christ died for can never be of those in Gal 3:10

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

Because Christ has redeemed them from the curse of the Law, How ? By being made a curse for them, in their stead Gal 3:13 !
 

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the drawing itself appears to be regulated by a
higher power.
Its the power of God in the New Birth, its also giving the Gift of Faith.
 

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Made Righteous by His Blood !

As those Christ died for are made Righteous by His Obedience Rom 5:19b

so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.;

Likewise are they made Righteous solely by His Blood Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

For His obedience in Vs 19 is the same as His Blood here in Vs 9, since we can take His obedience as referring to His Obedience unto death as in Phil 2:8

8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

And His death, blood and cross are all seen as synonymous in scripture, so therefore the effects and results are the same, to be made Righteous, and to be Justified, they are both the same. The word Justified in Vs 9 is the greek word dikaioō:strongs 1344

I.
to render righteous or such he ought to be

II.
to show, exhibit, evince, one to be righteous, such as he is and wishes himself to be considered

III.
to declare, pronounce, one to be just, righteous, or such as he ought to be

Its also means being made free Rom 6:7 !

And the word righteous in Rom 5:19b is the greek word dikaios out of which the verb dikaioō above is derived and it means:

I.righteous, observing divine laws
A.
in a wide sense, upright, righteous, virtuous, keeping the commands of God
i.
of those who seem to themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves to be righteous, who pride themselves in their virtues, whether real or imagined

ii.
innocent, faultless, guiltless

iii.
used of him whose way of thinking, feeling, and acting is wholly conformed to the will of God, and who therefore needs no rectification in the heart or life
a.
only Christ truly


iv.
approved of or acceptable of God


B.
in a narrower sense, rendering to each his due and that in a judicial sense, passing just judgment on others, whether expressed in words or shown by the manner of dealing with them

By His blood alone, apart from their obedience, those Christ has died for are approved of or acceptable to God, they are innocent, faultless, guiltless !

So if anyone Christ died for goes to hell in unbelief and for their sins as Per Jn 8:24, then God is Unjust in that He is punishing those who are before Him because of Christ's blood innocent, faultless, guiltless ! 23
 
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Made Righteous by His Blood !
Calvinism misunderstands much of the Bible. To be "made righteous" is literally translated from the Greek, (not Latin) "declared righteous". And the ONLY WAY to be declared righteous is by faith in Christ.

As those Christ died for are made Righteous by His Obedience Rom 5:19b

so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.;

Likewise are they made Righteous solely by His Blood Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
More statements that clearly reveal this posters ignorance of Scripture.

In Rom 5:19, "many" doesn't mean "less than all" but "the masses", which is, in fact, everyone.

Why does this poster ignore the clear teaching of Rom 5:6 - You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.

So, by the "logic" of this poster, by Christ dying ONLY for the ungodly means that the so-called "non-elect" AREN'T "ungodly". Therefore, they don't need salvation by Christ.

For His obedience in Vs 19 is the same as His Blood here in Vs 9
This poster conveniently ignores Rom 5:1, which explains the OBJECT of the faith in v.9.

5:1 - Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
5:9 - Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him!

When both verses are taken together, as context requires, one is justified through faith IN His blood. But this poster perverts Scripture by ignoring v.1 and claiming that Christ's death on the cross justifies everyone He died for. But the Bible plainly says He died for everyone, so by this posters' claims, he is a universalist.
 

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It accomplished Salvation from unbelief/disobedience !

One of the consequences of the sin of Adam, who by the way did not federally represent all mankind without exception, but only the godly remnant or seed Mal 2:15

And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.

Again one of the consequences was that God confined, imprisoned that Seed into Unbelief or disobedience Rom 11:32

32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

By it God designed a purpose of mercy for them, they all being the vessels of mercy Rom 9:23-24

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

Adam was the natural and federal head of all the vessels of mercy, whether they be of the jews or of the Gentiiles !

But here is the point, back in Rom 11:32 it is stated that God concluded them all [ all the vessels of mercy] unto unbelief !

That word concluded is key here, its the greek word sygkleiō and means:

I.
to shut up together, enclose
A.
of a shoal of fishes in a net


II.
to shut up on all sides, shut up completely

It means to: to shut or hem in; close in on all sides, to hold or contain,

to confine in or as if in a prison.

In fact some modern translations render the word thusly:

For God hath shut up all unto disobedience, that he might have mercy upon all.asv

32 God has locked up all people in disobedience, in order to have mercy on all of them.ceb

32 For God has consigned all to disobedience, that he may have mercy on all.esv

32 God has ·given [imprisoned] all people ·over to their stubborn ways [L to/in disobedience] so that he can show mercy to all.exb

32 For God has imprisoned all in disobedience, so that He may have mercy on all.hcsb

Also it denotes :

make subject to, so to deliver one up to the power of a person or thing that he is completely shut in, as it were, without means of escape:

They were consigned to the power of the devil, and thats how unbelief reigns 2 Cor 4:3-4

3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:

4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Listen, as long as satan has power over our minds, blinding them, we are still imprisoned in Unbelief/ disobedience and CANNOT BELIEVE !

But here is the deal, all for whom Christ died, as their Covenant Head and Surety, whether jew or Gentile, He being given as a Covenant to the people as per Isa 42:6,7

6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;

Gentiles included in the people, one of the effects of that follows in Vs 7

To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.

It brings all the people for whom He was given as a Covenant for, It brings them out of the Prison ! What Prison ? The Prison of Unbelief/ disobedience, which the devil, with power granted him by God, held them imprisoned unto. Thats why belief of the Gospel is an evidence of satan's power over one has been destroyed by the victorious death of Christ ! The effects , results, consequences of His death for one is:

7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison of unbelief/disobedience, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.
 

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The author of Salvation to them obeying Him !

Heb 5:9

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

In other words, the ones obeying Him is proof of His Death effecting and Authoring their Salvation, for without Christ first saving us, we cannot obey Him. If one is not in this life brought to the obedience of the Faith via the Gospel, then Christ was not their Saviour, for He cannot be our Saviour if He did not Author our obedience of Faith, as it is written Heb 12:2

2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

He is the author of them obeying Him Rom 10:16

But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?

But Jesus Authors the obeying of His Gospel, which is evidence of Salvation ! And So if we obey from the Heart, God is to be Thanked Rom 6:17

But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.

I know the opponents of Christ followers cannot receive this Truth, and believe that their obedience is what caused Christ to author their salvation, attempting to take credit from Christ and crown themselves instead !