The Age of the Universe
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Most everyone believes in what we call fine tuning. They call this micro evolution. The Problem has to do with macro evolution. The Bible clearly says that: "God made the beasts of the earth after their kind" (Genesis 1:25) They do not evolve from one kind to another. We see this with fruit flies. They start off with a fruit fly and after 40 million years of simulated evolution they still have a fruit fly. Unless you want to consider a fruit fly with a leg growing out of it's head a new species.
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Adaption is quite interesting, like the eye fold of Asian people, fisherman of the wide Pacific Ocean In ancient times. the sun reflects the most in the P.O. it’s the biggest body of water on earth.
so when the sun is bright on the water the eye adapted to ease the burden of squinting. squinting involves muscles that can be tiring if one squints for to long.
so when the sun is bright on the water the eye adapted to ease the burden of squinting. squinting involves muscles that can be tiring if one squints for to long.
This has always been a problem with climate control. Once a machine is up and running then it starts to become a lot more consistent. I have a friend that runs a 3 million dollar machine with two robots hooked up to it and his biggest problem is always with the consistency of the heating cooling system.
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Again just the opposite. It is a violation of God's law for people to get sick. Every miracle, every healing I have ever seen is God's law being restored. That is why a miracle is difficult to prove. Everything looks normal and you can not show that the person was ever sick in the first place. It is to easy for them to say there was an error in the test results. This is esp true when people are healed of HIV. They just claim that the test result was in error.
Genesis 1 is not speaking of the universe as a whole. It is only referring to the localized creation of Earth and surrounding Sol system. 'The third Heaven', or Heavenly Eden, already was in existence before Genesis 1. Many other unfallen worlds and their unfallen beings already existed before this one. The angelic hosts were already in existence (Job 38:6; Revelation 12:7, etc).
This world, mankind and local Sol system, is circa 6K, roughly 6,224 years old (per this excellent study). That does not speak to the rest of the universe. Mankind was made after and lower than angels for a specific purpose.
This world, mankind and local Sol system, is circa 6K, roughly 6,224 years old (per this excellent study). That does not speak to the rest of the universe. Mankind was made after and lower than angels for a specific purpose.
Good testimony. I haven't studied all of his material but just his material on the creation account. Sounded plausible to me and to me it even made the scriptures make more sense. The evidence points to a beginning. Fossil layers tell me there had to be death before Adam atleast in the animal kingdom.
It just always comes down to every scientist is viewing the same evidence. The evidence doesn't say anything, only scientist do. So whichever pre held biases or beliefs a scientist has will determine what they see in the evidence. For example a materialist will be predetermined to see only a material answer.
There is a Christian organization called Biologos who do believe in God designed Evolution. Answersingenesis.com with Ken Ham has a lot of information supporting the Young Earth view. Reason.org with Hugh Ross and his team has a lot of counter info against the young earth perspective. Intelligent design with Stephen Meyer at discovery.org explains the concept of intelligent design within creation and how some designs can only come from intelligence. And ICR.org which takes the literal Biblical creation into defense.
Stephen Meyer, Ken Ham, Hugh Ross, and ICR all 4 dont agree with biologos.
Dealing with Biblical creation this is your main theories.
It just always comes down to every scientist is viewing the same evidence. The evidence doesn't say anything, only scientist do. So whichever pre held biases or beliefs a scientist has will determine what they see in the evidence. For example a materialist will be predetermined to see only a material answer.
There is a Christian organization called Biologos who do believe in God designed Evolution. Answersingenesis.com with Ken Ham has a lot of information supporting the Young Earth view. Reason.org with Hugh Ross and his team has a lot of counter info against the young earth perspective. Intelligent design with Stephen Meyer at discovery.org explains the concept of intelligent design within creation and how some designs can only come from intelligence. And ICR.org which takes the literal Biblical creation into defense.
Stephen Meyer, Ken Ham, Hugh Ross, and ICR all 4 dont agree with biologos.
Dealing with Biblical creation this is your main theories.
I don't believe man experienced death before Adam .. Genesis says what the animals were given to eat at creation .. The curse on Adam could have changed all of that .. There was a lioness named ''little tyke'' you can google who never eat any meat and wouldn't even eat milk with even a drop of blood in it her whole life .. Animals can live off vegetables , Walter Veith (who I recommend) has a great 7 video creation series on creation and his experiments on man and animal non meat diets .. Isaiah prophesies 6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox...
As far as Ham, Meyer, Ross, others go, they're great until something better comes along ..Some seem to make their defense their own stronghold at times and set in their ways .. I appreciate their stuff in general but I don't agree with everything they say at all . My working point is the Word of God itself first and winning souls .. If you didn't watch that video by James Tour on post #90 you need to watch it .. These types of things spurs thought on unrelated things too ..
As far as Ham, Meyer, Ross, others go, they're great until something better comes along ..Some seem to make their defense their own stronghold at times and set in their ways .. I appreciate their stuff in general but I don't agree with everything they say at all . My working point is the Word of God itself first and winning souls .. If you didn't watch that video by James Tour on post #90 you need to watch it .. These types of things spurs thought on unrelated things too ..
Yes, it is future ..
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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