That Hebrews 10v26 Thread
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For if we (believers) sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth...Then what. ? One loses their salvation or God turns us to repent knowing he laid upon Jesus the judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Not the believers. the warning is to us. Christ cannot deny himself.
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 26-27
The warning is about the adversary that crucifies Christ over and over subjecting him to the world as shameful. As if one work of his faith as a labor of His falls short of the glory of the father.
2 Timothy 2:12-14 King James Version (KJV) If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
The warning or cause of repenting is not to the adversary. They do not turn.
For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 26-27
The warning is about the adversary that crucifies Christ over and over subjecting him to the world as shameful. As if one work of his faith as a labor of His falls short of the glory of the father.
2 Timothy 2:12-14 King James Version (KJV) If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
The warning or cause of repenting is not to the adversary. They do not turn.
It says what it says. I especially like this part, " he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous."
Even as He is righteous is a direct comparison.
Jesus is righteous because he doeth righteousness. So the direct comparison is we are righteous because we doeth righteousness just like he did. He that committeth sin is of the devil. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil in us before we manifest them.
How did Jesus doeth righteousness? He says, "The Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works"
Know you not that you are Temple of God, the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For it is He that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. For we are dead nevertheless we live, yet not us but Christ liveth in us and the life we now live in the flesh we live by the faith OF the Son of God.
Even as He is righteous is a direct comparison.
Jesus is righteous because he doeth righteousness. So the direct comparison is we are righteous because we doeth righteousness just like he did. He that committeth sin is of the devil. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil in us before we manifest them.
How did Jesus doeth righteousness? He says, "The Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works"
Know you not that you are Temple of God, the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For it is He that works in us both to will and do HIS good pleasure. For we are dead nevertheless we live, yet not us but Christ liveth in us and the life we now live in the flesh we live by the faith OF the Son of God.
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Let's take a walk in Hebrew chapter 10 starting in verse 4
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore (because it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sin) when he (Christ) cometh into the world, he (Christ) saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me (the Word was made flesh): In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I (I the writer or us for that matter. For we were made to be in HIS image and likeness), Lo, I (we) come (in the volume of the book (the human instruction manuel, the Bible) it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Above when He (HE being Christ) said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein (Because there was a constant rememberance of sin every year because they could never take away sin vs.3 so neither has HE had any pleasure in); which are offered by the law; Then said he (Christ), Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second (purging our conscience (who we are, our inner man), a sanctifying to the purifying of the flesh from dead works (the taking away of sin, dead works, acts the cause death) to serve the Living God. Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves (us) with better sacrifices than these. Heb 9:14,13 21-23)
By the which will we are sanctified (purged conscience, a sanctifying to the purifying of the flesh from dead works, the taking away of sin to serve the Living God) through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins (purge our conscience, who we are our inner being) : But this man (Christ), after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof (to this perfectedness) the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant (perfectedness of them that are sanctified) that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
(Heb 10:4-16 KJV)
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore (because it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sin) when he (Christ) cometh into the world, he (Christ) saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me (the Word was made flesh): In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I (I the writer or us for that matter. For we were made to be in HIS image and likeness), Lo, I (we) come (in the volume of the book (the human instruction manuel, the Bible) it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. Above when He (HE being Christ) said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein (Because there was a constant rememberance of sin every year because they could never take away sin vs.3 so neither has HE had any pleasure in); which are offered by the law; Then said he (Christ), Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second (purging our conscience (who we are, our inner man), a sanctifying to the purifying of the flesh from dead works (the taking away of sin, dead works, acts the cause death) to serve the Living God. Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves (us) with better sacrifices than these. Heb 9:14,13 21-23)
By the which will we are sanctified (purged conscience, a sanctifying to the purifying of the flesh from dead works, the taking away of sin to serve the Living God) through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins (purge our conscience, who we are our inner being) : But this man (Christ), after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Whereof (to this perfectedness) the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, This is the covenant (perfectedness of them that are sanctified) that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
(Heb 10:4-16 KJV)
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this is how it reads to me:
the context:
priesthood
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the message:
Christ the perfect Priest having made perfect absolution, far surpassing the Sinai covenant in every way, having done forever what the former things could never do.
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Jeremiah 23
14 Also I have seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem:
They commit adultery and walk in lies;
They also strengthen the hands of evildoers,
So that no one turns back from his wickedness.
All of them are like Sodom to Me,
And her inhabitants like Gomorrah.
15 “Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets:
‘Behold, I will feed them with wormwood,
And make them drink the water of gall;
For from the prophets of Jerusalem
Profaneness has gone out into all the land.’ ”
16 Thus says the Lord of hosts:
“Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you.
They make you worthless;
They speak a vision of their own heart,
Not from the mouth of the Lord.
17 They continually say to those who despise Me,
‘The Lord has said, “You shall have peace” ’;
And to everyone who walks according to the dictates of his own heart, they say,
‘No evil shall come upon you.’ ”
18 For who has stood in the counsel of the Lord,
And has perceived and heard His word?
Who has marked His word and heard it?
19 Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth in fury—
A violent whirlwind!
It will fall violently on the head of the wicked.
20 The anger of the Lord will not turn back
Until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart.
In the latter days you will understand it perfectly.
21 “I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran.
I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in My counsel,
And had caused My people to hear My words,
Then they would have turned them from their evil way
And from the evil of their doings.
23 “Am I a God near at hand,” says the Lord,
“And not a God afar off?
24 Can anyone hide himself in secret places,
So I shall not see him?” says the Lord;
“Do I not fill heaven and earth?” says the Lord.
14 Also I have seen a horrible thing in the prophets of Jerusalem:
They commit adultery and walk in lies;
They also strengthen the hands of evildoers,
So that no one turns back from his wickedness.
All of them are like Sodom to Me,
And her inhabitants like Gomorrah.
15 “Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets:
‘Behold, I will feed them with wormwood,
And make them drink the water of gall;
For from the prophets of Jerusalem
Profaneness has gone out into all the land.’ ”
16 Thus says the Lord of hosts:
“Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you.
They make you worthless;
They speak a vision of their own heart,
Not from the mouth of the Lord.
17 They continually say to those who despise Me,
‘The Lord has said, “You shall have peace” ’;
And to everyone who walks according to the dictates of his own heart, they say,
‘No evil shall come upon you.’ ”
18 For who has stood in the counsel of the Lord,
And has perceived and heard His word?
Who has marked His word and heard it?
19 Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord has gone forth in fury—
A violent whirlwind!
It will fall violently on the head of the wicked.
20 The anger of the Lord will not turn back
Until He has executed and performed the thoughts of His heart.
In the latter days you will understand it perfectly.
21 “I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran.
I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
22 But if they had stood in My counsel,
And had caused My people to hear My words,
Then they would have turned them from their evil way
And from the evil of their doings.
23 “Am I a God near at hand,” says the Lord,
“And not a God afar off?
24 Can anyone hide himself in secret places,
So I shall not see him?” says the Lord;
“Do I not fill heaven and earth?” says the Lord.
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Look, the scriptures have been translated. where do you get "habitually" from the greek? I scanned a few translations and I have not found one that has "habitually" in this passage.
There is no contradictions here. You are sanctified once for all. You cannot be re-sanctified, so don't sin wilfully becuase there is no second chance. It's a grave warning.
The scripture in question SPECIFICALLY says sanctified BY THE BLOOD. This can only mean salvation.
There is no contradictions here. You are sanctified once for all. You cannot be re-sanctified, so don't sin wilfully becuase there is no second chance. It's a grave warning.
The scripture in question SPECIFICALLY says sanctified BY THE BLOOD. This can only mean salvation.
Natural man habitually does the things that come naturally. . what the eyes see the temporal .
Spiritual man born of the Spirit of Christ does what the supernatural Spirit does as it works in us to both will and perform the strengthened power . We are the temple. Not made with human hands (the abomination of desolation)
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Spiritual man born of the Spirit of Christ does what the supernatural Spirit does as it works in us to both will and perform the strengthened power . We are the temple. Not made with human hands (the abomination of desolation)
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
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