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Kroogz

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God uses the broken and compliant intuned to God.
God doesn't use the one who thinks God is finished working with humanity.
Nope. God uses the wise in doctrine. Those who have learned and APPLIED doctrine. He does not use a toddler.
 

Brasspen

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no here, I need revise it again.
God not only talks to me when in trouble, but also other times.
I got that message when I was suffering the other night.
 

Cameron143

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Context. Jesus is likening hearing His voice when the Shepherd gathers his sheep. He is not talking about hearing His voice when you are following.

Don't try to force it out from it's context.
Read the whole chapter. He has them hearing coming into the sheep fold as well as when they go out.
That's the context.
 

lrs68

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Nope. God uses the wise in doctrine. Those who have learned and APPLIED doctrine. He does not use a toddler.
The broken and compliant are the ones who are wise in doctrine.

Thank You for showing us that you are neither.
 

sawdust

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your serious? do you really think that? you only think you should hear his voice when your out of line and you find that logical?
Did you read what was said? Jesus calls to those who are not following as yet but belong to Him. That is the context of "My sheep hear my voice". Trying to stretch it out to another context, ie. daily walk of faith, is not wise.

Cameron said:
"But whose voice did they hear calling them to return when they have gone astray?" (bold mine)

If they are hearing His voice and being called to return, where are they? Following? Yes or No.
 

Genez

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No. But whose voice did they hear calling them to return when they have gone astray?
Like these believers who heard his voice, and did not come back?
If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray
and God will give them life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death.
There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that you should pray about that. 1 Jn 5:16

All believers initially hear His voice, and all followed Jesus into salvation.
But, some who are saved may later refuse to keep following, and suffer the sin unto death.

After all?
You said: All sheep hear Jesus' voice and follow Him.

If you did not choose the word 'all,' I would not have mentioned how, in that case it could only apply to all.
Which is... Follow onto salvation. For all who believe have followed Him onto salvation. But not all the saved
continue to hear his voice! Some die the sin onto death.

capeesh?
..............
 

Genez

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Yet you had opportunity from scripture to refute what I have shared, yet have failed to do so. Why might that be?
Why do you always jump out from behind some tree and distract away from important things being said?
Who hired you to do that? Who would want to distract away?

Whose voice are you hearing?

U go figure that one out.
 

Cameron143

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Did you read what was said? Jesus calls to those who are not following as yet but belong to Him. That is the context of "My sheep hear my voice". Trying to stretch it out to another context, ie. daily walk of faith, is not wise.

Cameron said:
"But whose voice did they hear calling them to return when they have gone astray?" (bold mine)

If they are hearing His voice and being called to return, where are they? Following? Yes or No.
No where in the verse does it say they are continually hearing His voice or are continually following. It merely says His sheep hear His voice and follow Him.

It is the nature of sheep to stray. Hence, the comparison.
 

Kroogz

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The broken and compliant are the ones who are wise in doctrine.

Thank You for showing us that you are neither.
The bereans are wise in doctrine. Go ahead and consider yourself broken. The Christian way of life is renewed and Spirit filled. Broken left a LONNNNGGGGGG time ago.
 

Blain

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The bereans are wise in doctrine. Go ahead and consider yourself broken. The Christian way of life is renewed and Spirit filled. Broken left a LONNNNGGGGGG time ago.
I always feel closest to God when I am suffering and broken he uses the willing not necesarraly the broken but in our weakness he is strong for us in our sorrw he gives us hope he counfounds those who are consider themselves wise with the things seen as foolish
 

lrs68

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The bereans are wise in doctrine. Go ahead and consider yourself broken. The Christian way of life is renewed and Spirit filled. Broken left a LONNNNGGGGGG time ago.
Broken in the Bible means able to be molded according to how God wants to use me.

It's refreshing to see you admit that you are non compliant to God because no one should be taking anything you post as wisdom to live by.

It's like separating the tares from the Wheat in this thread.
 

Blain

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And on the topic of sound doctrine I have seen what so called sound doctrine does here in cc all you get is constant arguing and cherry picking twisting the word making it say something it isn't if the doctrine we hold so dear is so sound why all the division and arguing?
Rememeber well that the devil knows the art of war very well confuse divide and conquor