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I think the better question would be where does it say WE are to keep it.
The old law was for the Jews, not everyone.
Ex. 35:1 Moses assembled all the congregation of the people of Israel and said to them, “These are the things that the Lord has commanded you to do. 2 Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord.
Jesus is our high priest but He could not be a high priest under the old law because He is not from the tribe of Levi.
Heb. 7:11 Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? 12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well. 13 For the one of whom these things are spoken belonged to another tribe, from which no one has ever served at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
Those who are in Christ cannot be under the old law.
The old law was for the Jews, not everyone.
Ex. 35:1 Moses assembled all the congregation of the people of Israel and said to them, “These are the things that the Lord has commanded you to do. 2 Six days work shall be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the Lord.
Jesus is our high priest but He could not be a high priest under the old law because He is not from the tribe of Levi.
Heb. 7:11 Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? 12 For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well. 13 For the one of whom these things are spoken belonged to another tribe, from which no one has ever served at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord was descended from Judah, and in connection with that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
Those who are in Christ cannot be under the old law.
The 10 commandments are like a table of contents for the old law. I suggest the old covenant is the old law. This verse should make it clear it was referred to as a covenant.
Heb. 8:8
“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah,
9 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers
on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt.
For they did not continue in my covenant,
Absolutely!!
Jesus was talking to Jews.
He came to FULFILL but not destroy. The law and prophets proclaim Jesus and are useful to prove He is the Messiah.
But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—
I recommend Hebrews. It's great to help understand how the old law was a shadow of the new and so on.
6 But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.
Heb. 8:8
“Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah,
9 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers
on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt.
For they did not continue in my covenant,
Absolutely!!
Jesus was talking to Jews.
He came to FULFILL but not destroy. The law and prophets proclaim Jesus and are useful to prove He is the Messiah.
But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it—
I recommend Hebrews. It's great to help understand how the old law was a shadow of the new and so on.
6 But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant he mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion to look for a second.
Let me ask you another question.
The law states that every male must be circumcised.
Leviticus 12:3
Then on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Please explain why Paul is so opposed to circumcision in the Torah, it's simply the law?
Galatians 5:2
Look! I, Paul, tell you that if you have yourselves circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
The law states that every male must be circumcised.
Leviticus 12:3
Then on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised.
Please explain why Paul is so opposed to circumcision in the Torah, it's simply the law?
Galatians 5:2
Look! I, Paul, tell you that if you have yourselves circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you.
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The seventh day sabbath is Saturday. God does not force anyone to keep it holy.
But God did ask us to keep it holy.
Not Sunday or any other day. God set the seventh day aside and made it holy.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Blessed = exactly that, to be blessed
and sanctified = To be set aside, set apart, consecrated, and hollowed, to be made holy, and sacred.
If God made the seventh day holy and set it aside for us to keep holy, who gives mankind the right to change that.?
I don't see any Bible verse that changes this. No verse that states Sunday is the new sabbath or that we should stop keeping Saturday
There was no Jew before Abraham and we are all spiritual Jews in Jesus.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Rom 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
But God did ask us to keep it holy.
Not Sunday or any other day. God set the seventh day aside and made it holy.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
Blessed = exactly that, to be blessed
and sanctified = To be set aside, set apart, consecrated, and hollowed, to be made holy, and sacred.
If God made the seventh day holy and set it aside for us to keep holy, who gives mankind the right to change that.?
I don't see any Bible verse that changes this. No verse that states Sunday is the new sabbath or that we should stop keeping Saturday
There was no Jew before Abraham and we are all spiritual Jews in Jesus.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: 29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
Rom 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin;
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Rom 3:29 Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: 30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. 31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
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Hebrews is great to understand the old Testament laws and ceremonies.
Some people put all the laws together and think they are all shadows or all nailed to the cross.
Sin is the transgression of the law.
No law = no sin,
A law has been present from the start, even before sin. To define sin and keep order, no sin was present when everyone obeyed the law.
A covenant was made many years after sin had entered. And many laws were added because of sin.
Gal 3:19-25
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
This is not talking about the law that defines sin, the moral law, the law of liberty. It is talking about the law that was added because of sin. The law that was only a schoolmaster to point people to Jesus. The laws of ordinances that Jesus fulfilled.
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Jesus has taken the place of the bulls and goats, (with His blood) we are redeemed of the sin in our life.
The cerimonial laws and moral laws are different.
one defines sin, and one was introduced because of sin to help explain salvation. The cerimonial law of ordinances are no longer practiced because of Jesus. but sin still needs to be dealt with Because a law is still defining it. There must be a law that we are transgressing (we are all sinners.) We are all guilty before God.
Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
Some people put all the laws together and think they are all shadows or all nailed to the cross.
Sin is the transgression of the law.
No law = no sin,
A law has been present from the start, even before sin. To define sin and keep order, no sin was present when everyone obeyed the law.
A covenant was made many years after sin had entered. And many laws were added because of sin.
Gal 3:19-25
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
This is not talking about the law that defines sin, the moral law, the law of liberty. It is talking about the law that was added because of sin. The law that was only a schoolmaster to point people to Jesus. The laws of ordinances that Jesus fulfilled.
Heb 9:12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
Jesus has taken the place of the bulls and goats, (with His blood) we are redeemed of the sin in our life.
The cerimonial laws and moral laws are different.
one defines sin, and one was introduced because of sin to help explain salvation. The cerimonial law of ordinances are no longer practiced because of Jesus. but sin still needs to be dealt with Because a law is still defining it. There must be a law that we are transgressing (we are all sinners.) We are all guilty before God.
Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
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the Church of Rome openly admits that they changed the day from Saturday to Sunday.
This sign has been a mark of power ever since Justinian. “Sunday is our mark of authority …. The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact” (The Catholic Record of London, Ontario, Sept. 1, 1923). By keeping Sunday, Protestants submit to the Vatican’s authority over them.
Cardinal Gibbons, in Faith of Our Fathers, 92nd ed., p. 89, freely admits, “You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we [the Catholic Church] never sanctify.”
Again, “The Catholic Church, … by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday” (The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893).
“Protestants do not realize that by observing Sunday, they accept the authority of the spokesperson of the Church, the Pope” (Our Sunday Visitor, February 5, 1950).
“Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change [Saturday Sabbath to Sunday] was her act... And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things” (H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons).
I want to follow the word of God, and keep Saturday not the word of tradition and keep sunday.
This sign has been a mark of power ever since Justinian. “Sunday is our mark of authority …. The church is above the Bible, and this transference of sabbath observance is proof of that fact” (The Catholic Record of London, Ontario, Sept. 1, 1923). By keeping Sunday, Protestants submit to the Vatican’s authority over them.
Cardinal Gibbons, in Faith of Our Fathers, 92nd ed., p. 89, freely admits, “You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we [the Catholic Church] never sanctify.”
Again, “The Catholic Church, … by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday” (The Catholic Mirror, official publication of James Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893).
“Protestants do not realize that by observing Sunday, they accept the authority of the spokesperson of the Church, the Pope” (Our Sunday Visitor, February 5, 1950).
“Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change [Saturday Sabbath to Sunday] was her act... And the act is a mark of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things” (H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons).
I want to follow the word of God, and keep Saturday not the word of tradition and keep sunday.
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We only need one letter of the law to become redundant. The law must be completely intact. Otherwise, all things promised have been fulfilled.
Matthew 5:18
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished!
Do we need to sacrifice anymore?
Do we need a high priest?
Has a letter or stroke of the law passed from the law?
Matthew 5:18
For truly I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke of a letter shall pass from the Law, until all is accomplished!
Do we need to sacrifice anymore?
Do we need a high priest?
Has a letter or stroke of the law passed from the law?
Yes we need a sacrifice today, Yes we need a high priest today,
Jesus has become our sacrifice and out high priest. In heaven Jesus offers his blood. The Earthly system was a shadow of what is happening now in heaven. The Earthly system did not make us clean but Jesus can.
We no longer need to practice the Earthly sacrifices because Jesus has filled the position in heaven.
But the moral law which defines sin has not changed.
Murder is still sin, Adultery is still sin, taking God's name in vain is still sin, and forgetting the sabbath is still sin.
Sin is still sin. No letter has past from the moral law.
Jas 2:10-12
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
Jesus has become our sacrifice and out high priest. In heaven Jesus offers his blood. The Earthly system was a shadow of what is happening now in heaven. The Earthly system did not make us clean but Jesus can.
We no longer need to practice the Earthly sacrifices because Jesus has filled the position in heaven.
But the moral law which defines sin has not changed.
Murder is still sin, Adultery is still sin, taking God's name in vain is still sin, and forgetting the sabbath is still sin.
Sin is still sin. No letter has past from the moral law.
Jas 2:10-12
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
We should worship God every day.
But God said to labour 6 days and rest on the seventh. God said to keep the seventh day holy, to sanctify and set it apart.
You can ignore God or justify Sunday sacredness to replace the seventh day but God has said those that love me will keep His commandments..
(Not to gain salvation but because you love God)
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
But God said to labour 6 days and rest on the seventh. God said to keep the seventh day holy, to sanctify and set it apart.
You can ignore God or justify Sunday sacredness to replace the seventh day but God has said those that love me will keep His commandments..
(Not to gain salvation but because you love God)
1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
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The cerimonial laws which were shadows and types were nailed to the cross. But the moral law did not change.
Jesus did not die to remove the moral law.
The standard of right and wrong has not changed. Jesus died to forgive us not to remove the law.
Hopefully this is what you said above.
Jesus did not die to remove the moral law.
The standard of right and wrong has not changed. Jesus died to forgive us not to remove the law.
Hopefully this is what you said above.
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Have you ever signed a contract? If you have, you will know that you are only responsible for doing the things the contract stipulates. Those things not stipulated, though possibly good, have no bearing on whether the terms of the contract are fulfilled.
We, as Christians, have a new contract. Adherence to the law is not part of the contract...at least not on our part. This is actually really good news, because like all those under the old contract, we are unable to fulfill this aspect of it. Why would you want to put into the new contract the portion of the old contract that led to the failure of the first?
Because I know your initial reaction is going to be to disagree, please take a moment to consider what I have shared.
We, as Christians, have a new contract. Adherence to the law is not part of the contract...at least not on our part. This is actually really good news, because like all those under the old contract, we are unable to fulfill this aspect of it. Why would you want to put into the new contract the portion of the old contract that led to the failure of the first?
Because I know your initial reaction is going to be to disagree, please take a moment to consider what I have shared.
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According to Genesis the Sabbath was created before sin. Notice that God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it.
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5. KJVSD — Genesis 2:1-KJVSD — Genesis 2:5
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
4 These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
5. KJVSD — Genesis 2:1-KJVSD — Genesis 2:5
