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The cerimonial laws did become obsolete because Jesus filled all the roles that they were pointing to.
The sanctuary was pointing to what is in Heaven, the priests are an example of what Jesus is doing for us. The lamb is an example of the blood that Jesus needed to give.. It all pointed to the plan of salvation in Jesus.
When Jesus was finished the vail in the temple was torn in two.
Mat 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
Mat 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
The Earthly temple became void. Jesus is our high priest in Heaven.
But sin has not changed and the need to be saved from sin.
Sin is the transgression of the law.
And you are saying that God has different laws for different times and what is sin for one is not sin for others.
My God is consistant, Unchanging, Just and Righteous.
The sanctuary was pointing to what is in Heaven, the priests are an example of what Jesus is doing for us. The lamb is an example of the blood that Jesus needed to give.. It all pointed to the plan of salvation in Jesus.
When Jesus was finished the vail in the temple was torn in two.
Mat 27:50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
Mat 27:51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
The Earthly temple became void. Jesus is our high priest in Heaven.
But sin has not changed and the need to be saved from sin.
Sin is the transgression of the law.
And you are saying that God has different laws for different times and what is sin for one is not sin for others.
My God is consistant, Unchanging, Just and Righteous.
AND ... the siani covanant is not the 10 commandments.
Understand what a covanant is....
It is an agreement between 2. God and the nation of Israel.
The Agreement included the keeping of the laws and statues. But the covanant is not the 10 commandments...
Heb 8:6-7 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Are the 10 commandments faultless?
Yes they are. God spoke them and wrote them himself and God is without fault.
The better promise with the new covenant is that God will write the law on our hearts and minds.
Understand what a covanant is....
It is an agreement between 2. God and the nation of Israel.
The Agreement included the keeping of the laws and statues. But the covanant is not the 10 commandments...
Heb 8:6-7 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. 7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Are the 10 commandments faultless?
Yes they are. God spoke them and wrote them himself and God is without fault.
The better promise with the new covenant is that God will write the law on our hearts and minds.
Observing the Sabbath
Paul plainly declared that no Christian should be “judged” (i.e., condemned) for failing to observe the Sabbath (Col. 2:16) — a statement that never would have been made if the law of Moses had been binding when the apostle penned his letter.
Sundays - Why we Observe
Jesus arose upon the first day of the week.
Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1
Pentecost by Divine design always came on Sunday. (Lev. 23:15-16)
Acts 2
The church was established repentance and remission of sins first preached this Sunday in Acts 2 and they were added to the saved.
Acts 2
The early church met on the first day of the week for communion (or to have a meal together and fellowship while hearing Paul teach).
Acts 20:7
Early church offerings were directed to be done upon the first day of the week.
1 Corinthians 16:2
Colossians 2:16,17
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Notice "Sabbath days", plural. These Sabbaths, new moons and holydays were part of the ceremonial system. Notice that Sunday was also a Holyday:
Lev 23:7
On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.
The evidence of the New Testament is decisive. The early Christians met on “the first day of the week” (Acts 20:7), indeed “every first day of the week” (1 Cor. 16:2). [Note: The Greek of 1 Corinthians 16:2 is kata mian sabbatou, literally, “on the first day of every week” — see: J.H. Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Edinburgh: T.&T. Clark, 1958, p. 328).
There is no biblical case that can be made in defense of “Christian Sabbath-keeping” for today. Efforts to this end are exercises in theological futility. That proposition has the support of neither Scripture mandate nor apostolic precedent. There is no scriptural call to action in the New Testament for Christians to “Christian Sabbath-keeping”… Jesus Christ IS our Sabbath and those walking in the Spirit being born again have entered into Christ being translated from the world into the Kingdom of God’s Dear Son (Colossians 1:13).
Paul plainly declared that no Christian should be “judged” (i.e., condemned) for failing to observe the Sabbath (Col. 2:16) — a statement that never would have been made if the law of Moses had been binding when the apostle penned his letter.
Sundays - Why we Observe
Jesus arose upon the first day of the week.
Mark 16:2, Luke 24:1, John 20:1
Pentecost by Divine design always came on Sunday. (Lev. 23:15-16)
Acts 2
The church was established repentance and remission of sins first preached this Sunday in Acts 2 and they were added to the saved.
Acts 2
The early church met on the first day of the week for communion (or to have a meal together and fellowship while hearing Paul teach).
Acts 20:7
Early church offerings were directed to be done upon the first day of the week.
1 Corinthians 16:2
Colossians 2:16,17
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Notice "Sabbath days", plural. These Sabbaths, new moons and holydays were part of the ceremonial system. Notice that Sunday was also a Holyday:
Lev 23:7
On the first day you shall have a holy convocation; you shall do no customary work on it.
The evidence of the New Testament is decisive. The early Christians met on “the first day of the week” (Acts 20:7), indeed “every first day of the week” (1 Cor. 16:2). [Note: The Greek of 1 Corinthians 16:2 is kata mian sabbatou, literally, “on the first day of every week” — see: J.H. Thayer, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament, Edinburgh: T.&T. Clark, 1958, p. 328).
There is no biblical case that can be made in defense of “Christian Sabbath-keeping” for today. Efforts to this end are exercises in theological futility. That proposition has the support of neither Scripture mandate nor apostolic precedent. There is no scriptural call to action in the New Testament for Christians to “Christian Sabbath-keeping”… Jesus Christ IS our Sabbath and those walking in the Spirit being born again have entered into Christ being translated from the world into the Kingdom of God’s Dear Son (Colossians 1:13).
Mankind's Day of Rest, the Sabbath Day
Question - Since the Old Testament commanded people to observe the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week, why have most Christian churches switched their day of worship to Sunday, the first day of the week?
Not all churches answer this question the same way. Some groups, most notably the Seventh-day Adventists, still worship on the seventh day. They argue that the sabbath was one of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20), and is therefore part of God's permanent will for His people.
They often claim that the shift to Sunday was part of a great apostasy that allowed pagan ideas to infiltrate the church during the early centuries (see Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, pp. 58-59).
Other Christian groups say that Sunday is the Christian version of the sabbath. They suggest that the main point of God's command to observe the sabbath was not the seventh day, but the idea of one day out of the seven. Jesus claimed that he was “lord even of the sabbath” (Mark 2:28), and therefore had the authority to change it to a different day.
This position argues that Jesus changed the day to Sunday as a way of extending its blessing from the Jews to the whole world. Still others Christians would say that we no longer observe the Jewish sabbath, but worship instead on Sunday, a distinctively Christian holy day. They argue that the early church very soon began meeting on Sunday in honor of the resurrection of Jesus, which took place on the first day of the week.
At the very beginning, the church in Jerusalem met every day in the temple and in private homes (Acts 2:46). Since the first believers were all Jewish, it seems safe to assume that they continued to participate in Jewish synagogue and temple worship for some time.
However, the New Testament makes it clear that the observance of a particular day was not imposed as a binding obligation.
Romans 14:5-6 makes it clear that there was some freedom in the matter of special days. Colossians 2:16-17 commanded the church not to allow anyone to act as their judge in regard to sabbath days. And Galatians 4:9-10 warns against going back under the Law by insisting on the legal requirement of special days.
The records that remain in the New Testament show that the first day of the week soon became a day of worship. When Paul wanted to collect an offering from the church at Corinth, he asked them to gather the money on the “first day of the week” (1 Cor. 16:2). And when he wanted to meet with the believers at Troas, the gathering took place "on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread" (Acts 20:7).
In Revelation 1:10, the apostle John described himself as being "in the Spirit on the Lord's Day." Most writers have thought he was referring to Sunday, so that our use of "the Lord's Day" as a term for Sunday comes from this verse. There is no Scripture passage that specifically teaches that the sabbath has been transferred from one day to another.
It seems most likely that the shift from Saturday to Sunday was gradual, and took place along with the change from a mostly Jewish church to a mostly Gentile one. The early church fathers generally viewed sabbath as a Jewish observance, and the Lord's Day as the proper Christian observance. For example, Ignatius wrote in the early 100's A.D., describing Christians with a Jewish background as those who “have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in observance of the Lord's Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death” (Magnesians 9 )
[Editor's note: Magnesians is a letter written to the church at Magnesia by Ignatius, a church father, also called Theophorus.] (NOT a Scriptural Reference)
A person's decision concerning sabbath observance probably hinges on the question of how we view the entire Old Testament. If all of it is still binding on us, then so is the sabbath. If there are parts that are no longer binding because they were directed specifically to the Jewish nation, or because they were for ritual purposes, then the sabbath is open for discussion. No matter what position a person takes, it is important to recognize that God has a claim to all of my time. When I give Him one day of the week, it reminds me that He owns all seven!
Question - Since the Old Testament commanded people to observe the Sabbath on the seventh day of the week, why have most Christian churches switched their day of worship to Sunday, the first day of the week?
Not all churches answer this question the same way. Some groups, most notably the Seventh-day Adventists, still worship on the seventh day. They argue that the sabbath was one of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20), and is therefore part of God's permanent will for His people.
They often claim that the shift to Sunday was part of a great apostasy that allowed pagan ideas to infiltrate the church during the early centuries (see Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy, pp. 58-59).
Other Christian groups say that Sunday is the Christian version of the sabbath. They suggest that the main point of God's command to observe the sabbath was not the seventh day, but the idea of one day out of the seven. Jesus claimed that he was “lord even of the sabbath” (Mark 2:28), and therefore had the authority to change it to a different day.
This position argues that Jesus changed the day to Sunday as a way of extending its blessing from the Jews to the whole world. Still others Christians would say that we no longer observe the Jewish sabbath, but worship instead on Sunday, a distinctively Christian holy day. They argue that the early church very soon began meeting on Sunday in honor of the resurrection of Jesus, which took place on the first day of the week.
At the very beginning, the church in Jerusalem met every day in the temple and in private homes (Acts 2:46). Since the first believers were all Jewish, it seems safe to assume that they continued to participate in Jewish synagogue and temple worship for some time.
However, the New Testament makes it clear that the observance of a particular day was not imposed as a binding obligation.
Romans 14:5-6 makes it clear that there was some freedom in the matter of special days. Colossians 2:16-17 commanded the church not to allow anyone to act as their judge in regard to sabbath days. And Galatians 4:9-10 warns against going back under the Law by insisting on the legal requirement of special days.
The records that remain in the New Testament show that the first day of the week soon became a day of worship. When Paul wanted to collect an offering from the church at Corinth, he asked them to gather the money on the “first day of the week” (1 Cor. 16:2). And when he wanted to meet with the believers at Troas, the gathering took place "on the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread" (Acts 20:7).
In Revelation 1:10, the apostle John described himself as being "in the Spirit on the Lord's Day." Most writers have thought he was referring to Sunday, so that our use of "the Lord's Day" as a term for Sunday comes from this verse. There is no Scripture passage that specifically teaches that the sabbath has been transferred from one day to another.
It seems most likely that the shift from Saturday to Sunday was gradual, and took place along with the change from a mostly Jewish church to a mostly Gentile one. The early church fathers generally viewed sabbath as a Jewish observance, and the Lord's Day as the proper Christian observance. For example, Ignatius wrote in the early 100's A.D., describing Christians with a Jewish background as those who “have come to the possession of a new hope, no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in observance of the Lord's Day, on which also our life has sprung up again by Him and by His death” (Magnesians 9 )
[Editor's note: Magnesians is a letter written to the church at Magnesia by Ignatius, a church father, also called Theophorus.] (NOT a Scriptural Reference)
A person's decision concerning sabbath observance probably hinges on the question of how we view the entire Old Testament. If all of it is still binding on us, then so is the sabbath. If there are parts that are no longer binding because they were directed specifically to the Jewish nation, or because they were for ritual purposes, then the sabbath is open for discussion. No matter what position a person takes, it is important to recognize that God has a claim to all of my time. When I give Him one day of the week, it reminds me that He owns all seven!
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“Would you explain Matthew 28:1, ‘In the end of the Sabbath’ (KJV), or ‘Late on the Sabbath’ (ASV)? This seems to say that the women came to the tomb and found it empty on the evening of the Sabbath, which would indicate that Jesus was raised on Saturday, not Sunday.”
No, this does not mean that Jesus was raised from the grave on Saturday. The problem is one of translation from the original Greek language into English.
First, the other Gospel accounts clearly show that this visit occurred upon the first day of the week (Mark 16:1-2; Luke 24:1; John 20:1).
Second, the rendition of Matthew 28:1 should be as follows: “After the sabbath day, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week . . .” The Sabbath ended at 6:00 the previous evening, and the dawn of Sunday morning was approaching. The Greek of the passage is opse sabbaton, meaning “after the Sabbath” (Arndt and Gingrich 1967, 606). The Revised Standard Version thus correctly translates, “Now after the sabbath . . .” The New American Standard Bible renders the verse in the same way.
Third, it is the universal testimony of both Scripture and church history that the early Christians regarded Sunday as Christ’s resurrection day. The disciples met together on resurrection Sunday (John 20:19), then on Sunday a week later (20:26). The church was established on Pentecost, which always came on Sunday (Leviticus 23:15-16; Acts 2:1). The early Christians, under the leadership of inspired men, worshipped on Sunday (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2). That day was later designated as “the Lord’s day” (Revelation 1:10). To all of this evidence agree the testimonies of the writers in the post-apostolic age, i.e., from A.D. 100 to A.D. 325. Sunday was the resurrection day.
The Lord came forth from the dead not on Saturday, but on Sunday morning.
Galatians 2:11-20 (NAS)
But when Cephas (Peter) came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.
For prior to the coming of certain men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to withdraw and hold himself aloof, fearing the party of the circumcision.
And the rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy.
But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, "If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?
"We are Jews by nature, and not sinners from among the Gentiles;
nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified.
"But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be!
"For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor.
"For through the Law I died to the Law, that I might live to God.
"I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and delivered Himself up for me.
Romans 2:25-29
For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
There is no Saturday Sabbath Day. Colossians 2:14-16 tells us that the ceremonials laws were nailed to the cross, including the Sabbath Day. Jesus became the fulfillment of what the Sabbath represented in the Old Testament. The Sabbath Day was a ceremonial Law, only for the Jews in the Old Testament. It pictured resting in Jesus Christ for salvation. This is plainly taught in Hebrews 4:1-5...
"Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest."
“Would you explain Matthew 28:1, ‘In the end of the Sabbath’ (KJV), or ‘Late on the Sabbath’ (ASV)? This seems to say that the women came to the tomb and found it empty on the evening of the Sabbath, which would indicate that Jesus was raised on Saturday, not Sunday.”
No, this does not mean that Jesus was raised from the grave on Saturday. The problem is one of translation from the original Greek language into English.
First, the other Gospel accounts clearly show that this visit occurred upon the first day of the week (Mark 16:1-2; Luke 24:1; John 20:1).
Second, the rendition of Matthew 28:1 should be as follows: “After the sabbath day, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week . . .” The Sabbath ended at 6:00 the previous evening, and the dawn of Sunday morning was approaching. The Greek of the passage is opse sabbaton, meaning “after the Sabbath” (Arndt and Gingrich 1967, 606). The Revised Standard Version thus correctly translates, “Now after the sabbath . . .” The New American Standard Bible renders the verse in the same way.
Third, it is the universal testimony of both Scripture and church history that the early Christians regarded Sunday as Christ’s resurrection day. The disciples met together on resurrection Sunday (John 20:19), then on Sunday a week later (20:26). The church was established on Pentecost, which always came on Sunday (Leviticus 23:15-16; Acts 2:1). The early Christians, under the leadership of inspired men, worshipped on Sunday (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2). That day was later designated as “the Lord’s day” (Revelation 1:10). To all of this evidence agree the testimonies of the writers in the post-apostolic age, i.e., from A.D. 100 to A.D. 325. Sunday was the resurrection day.
The Lord came forth from the dead not on Saturday, but on Sunday morning.
Galatians 2:11-20 (NAS)
But when Cephas (Peter) came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.
For prior to the coming of certain men from James, he used to eat with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to withdraw and hold himself aloof, fearing the party of the circumcision.
And the rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, with the result that even Barnabas was carried away by their hypocrisy.
But when I saw that they were not straightforward about the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas in the presence of all, "If you, being a Jew, live like the Gentiles and not like the Jews, how is it that you compel the Gentiles to live like Jews?
"We are Jews by nature, and not sinners from among the Gentiles;
nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified.
"But if, while seeking to be justified in Christ, we ourselves have also been found sinners, is Christ then a minister of sin? May it never be!
"For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor.
"For through the Law I died to the Law, that I might live to God.
"I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and delivered Himself up for me.
Romans 2:25-29
For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.
There is no Saturday Sabbath Day. Colossians 2:14-16 tells us that the ceremonials laws were nailed to the cross, including the Sabbath Day. Jesus became the fulfillment of what the Sabbath represented in the Old Testament. The Sabbath Day was a ceremonial Law, only for the Jews in the Old Testament. It pictured resting in Jesus Christ for salvation. This is plainly taught in Hebrews 4:1-5...
"Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest."
In many verses the term statutes and ordinances and laws and commandments are all mentioned so they clearly need to be understood in contents.
Ex 18:20.
2 kings 17:34
2 Chro 33:8.
Ordinances
Transliteration: chûqqâh
Definition:
statute, ordinance, limit, enactment, something prescribed
statute
Origin: from H2706
Strong's Definition: Feminine of H2706, and meaning substantially the same: - appointed, custom, manner, ordinance, site, statute.
Ordinance can mean the 10 laws but it can also mean the cerimonial laws.
Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
It is clear that these laws of ordinance above were removed.
Which laws were they?
The Bible does not contradict itself.
Mat 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
The Ten commandments are in the new Testament many times and are not removed.
Ex 18:20.
2 kings 17:34
2 Chro 33:8.
Ordinances
Transliteration: chûqqâh
Definition:
statute, ordinance, limit, enactment, something prescribed
statute
Origin: from H2706
Strong's Definition: Feminine of H2706, and meaning substantially the same: - appointed, custom, manner, ordinance, site, statute.
Ordinance can mean the 10 laws but it can also mean the cerimonial laws.
Heb 9:1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary.
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
It is clear that these laws of ordinance above were removed.
Which laws were they?
The Bible does not contradict itself.
Mat 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
The Ten commandments are in the new Testament many times and are not removed.
The old story of the two brothers is almost a perfect illustration of both law and grace in operation. The older brother was a judge. His younger brother was brought before him as a transgressor of the law. From all the evidence it was clear to all that he was guilty. The court was tense. Would the judge mete out justice in such a case? The judge looked at his brother and sternly declared him guilty. Then he stunned the court by imposing the maximum fine. But immediately he left the bench and threw his arms around his brother and said, “I had to do it because you are guilty. I know you cannot pay the fine, but I will pay it for you.”
God is Judge and the universe is watching..
Is God Just and will He do what the justice demands?
If God changes the law ( removes the law) so we can be free from the guilt, what does that do to the justice of God?. What does it do for sin?
The point of the story is dramatic in its impact. The brother was forgiven, but the penalty was not. It had to be paid. But by paying the maximum penalty, the judge not only did not abolish the law, but he greatly magnified it. He demonstrated that its binding claims could never be voided. In the same sense, God would not and could not abolish the law to save His beloved Son. It cost something to uphold the law and pay the maximum penalty.
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. No law = no sin.
But how thankful we should be that God's love was as perfect as His justice. In His own body He bore the penalty, satisfied the law, and justified the transgressor.
Can’t you see that no greater demonstration could have been made to prove the permanence of the Ten Commandments? In the entire universe God could not have displayed a more convincing and irrefutable argument in favor of His law.
God is Judge and the universe is watching..
Is God Just and will He do what the justice demands?
If God changes the law ( removes the law) so we can be free from the guilt, what does that do to the justice of God?. What does it do for sin?
The point of the story is dramatic in its impact. The brother was forgiven, but the penalty was not. It had to be paid. But by paying the maximum penalty, the judge not only did not abolish the law, but he greatly magnified it. He demonstrated that its binding claims could never be voided. In the same sense, God would not and could not abolish the law to save His beloved Son. It cost something to uphold the law and pay the maximum penalty.
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression. No law = no sin.
But how thankful we should be that God's love was as perfect as His justice. In His own body He bore the penalty, satisfied the law, and justified the transgressor.
Can’t you see that no greater demonstration could have been made to prove the permanence of the Ten Commandments? In the entire universe God could not have displayed a more convincing and irrefutable argument in favor of His law.
Jesus also said that He is the LORD of the Sabbath. Which means that Jesus has the absolute right and authority to make the first day of the week very significant (called "the morrow after the Sabbath" as applied to the Feast of First Fruits, which He Himself fulfilled by rising from the dead very early on the first day of the week). Did Christ make the first day of the week special so that it would become the Christian Sabbath? Absolutely.
Now please take careful note of what is stated in John 20: 19-29:
19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
1. Christ showed Himself to His disciples on "the first day of the week" (what is now called Sunday). that automatically cancels out the BIZZARE notion in the OP that He rose on Monday.
2. Thomas was not present and would not believe that Christ had risen from the dead.
3. Jesus could have appeared to Thomas the very next day. But He did not.
4. Christ DELIBERATELY CHOSE to appear to Thomas "after eight days" (which would be the following Sunday (or the first day of the week). If you doubt it count the days for yourself.
5. That was the day on which Thomas worshiped the Lord by exclaiming "My Lord and my God".
6. Subsequently the first day of the week (called "the Lord's Day" by John in Revelation 1:10) became the day for Christian worship, rest, and good works. In other words, it became the Christian Sabbath, thus continuing to observe the fourth commandment.
Most people (even Christians) have not carefully studied this passage and its significance.
Now please take careful note of what is stated in John 20: 19-29:
19 Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
20 And when he had so said, he shewed unto them his hands and his side. Then were the disciples glad, when they saw the Lord.
21 Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.
22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
1. Christ showed Himself to His disciples on "the first day of the week" (what is now called Sunday). that automatically cancels out the BIZZARE notion in the OP that He rose on Monday.
2. Thomas was not present and would not believe that Christ had risen from the dead.
3. Jesus could have appeared to Thomas the very next day. But He did not.
4. Christ DELIBERATELY CHOSE to appear to Thomas "after eight days" (which would be the following Sunday (or the first day of the week). If you doubt it count the days for yourself.
5. That was the day on which Thomas worshiped the Lord by exclaiming "My Lord and my God".
6. Subsequently the first day of the week (called "the Lord's Day" by John in Revelation 1:10) became the day for Christian worship, rest, and good works. In other words, it became the Christian Sabbath, thus continuing to observe the fourth commandment.
Most people (even Christians) have not carefully studied this passage and its significance.
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Jesus appeared to people on a Sunday and rose from the dead on a Sunday but nothing about these events show or say that they replaced Saturday sabbath.
This is presumption.
.8 days after Sunday is Monday from my understanding.
And when John said on the Lords day there is nothing to prove this is Sunday.
If Sunday is the sabbath then God would have made it clear.
Nothing you said is a clear indication that Sunday is to replace the sabbath or that Sunday has been blessed and set aside.
Gen 2:2-3
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
This is presumption.
.8 days after Sunday is Monday from my understanding.
And when John said on the Lords day there is nothing to prove this is Sunday.
If Sunday is the sabbath then God would have made it clear.
Nothing you said is a clear indication that Sunday is to replace the sabbath or that Sunday has been blessed and set aside.
Gen 2:2-3
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. 3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
As Lord of the sabbath, where did Jesus change the Sabbath?
He rested on the sabbath in the tomb.
Died before sabbath and waited for the sabbath to finish before He rose from the dead.
We can worship every day of the week and gather together any day of the week but unless God clearly states that the sabbath is changed we should not follow tradition or presumption.
He rested on the sabbath in the tomb.
Died before sabbath and waited for the sabbath to finish before He rose from the dead.
We can worship every day of the week and gather together any day of the week but unless God clearly states that the sabbath is changed we should not follow tradition or presumption.
Here are various Catholic sources claiming the change was the doing of the Roman Catholic Church:
Cardinal James Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (Ayers Publishing, 1978): 108:
But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957): 50:
Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Q. Why Do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
Chancellor Albert Smith for Cardinal of Baltimore Archdiocese, letter dated February 10, 1920:
Who transferred the solemnity?
The Catholic Church.
Cardinal James Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (Ayers Publishing, 1978): 108:
But you may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctify.
The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1957): 50:
Q. Which is the Sabbath day?
A. Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Q. Why Do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
A. We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
Chancellor Albert Smith for Cardinal of Baltimore Archdiocese, letter dated February 10, 1920:
Who transferred the solemnity?
The Catholic Church.
No I'm not into new age....
Universe is exactly what it means.
God is Lord Almighty and the universe is His. The stars and other galaxies are part of the universe and everything else out there in space.... somewhere out there is the throne of God. When I said the universe is watching, I ment everything outside this Earth was watching how this controversy is working out. Watching the workings of God and the workings of the Evil devil. God is Just in all His ways.
Universe is exactly what it means.
God is Lord Almighty and the universe is His. The stars and other galaxies are part of the universe and everything else out there in space.... somewhere out there is the throne of God. When I said the universe is watching, I ment everything outside this Earth was watching how this controversy is working out. Watching the workings of God and the workings of the Evil devil. God is Just in all His ways.
These points prove nothing..
Your points are presumptions..
Heb 4:8-10
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
AS GOD DID FROM HIS....this is the 7th day sabbath.
A will needs to be changed before death..
Jesus changed what needed to be changed and added what needed to be added before He died.
Your points are presumptions..
Heb 4:8-10
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
AS GOD DID FROM HIS....this is the 7th day sabbath.
A will needs to be changed before death..
Jesus changed what needed to be changed and added what needed to be added before He died.
And when did He rise from the dead, and why did He give that day Christian significance?
As an SDA you simply dismiss any biblical evidence that Christians in apostolic churches DID NOT observe the Sabbath. Sabbatarians only came on the scene very recently (19th century). But as Paul says, you are at liberty to observe and hold in esteem any day you chose WITHOUT JUDGING other Christians. As to Catholic sources of any kind, Bible-believing Christians have nothing to do with them and they have no authority.
As an SDA you simply dismiss any biblical evidence that Christians in apostolic churches DID NOT observe the Sabbath. Sabbatarians only came on the scene very recently (19th century). But as Paul says, you are at liberty to observe and hold in esteem any day you chose WITHOUT JUDGING other Christians. As to Catholic sources of any kind, Bible-believing Christians have nothing to do with them and they have no authority.
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