Sins cannot be charged!

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I'd rather read the bible and believe it.
You can make your mouth say anything. Its the Elect World. The World of the Elect doesnt have its sins imputed to them 2 Cor 5:19

19 to wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world[of His Elect] unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 

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You can make your mouth say anything. Its the Elect World. The World of the Elect doesnt have its sins imputed to them 2 Cor 5:19

19 to wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world[of His Elect] unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
Again your adding to the word of God like a terrible paraphrase Bible. " The world of elect ' is a made up phrase .
I believe the bible when it says :
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
I .ll be able to say " God i just trusted your word , i set aside all these commentaries, and theologians and i just believed what you said , who you said it to and when you said it "
 

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No one will be in hell ' paying for sins '
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Hell is where people go who reject Jesus. He is the only access to the grace. He is the only way .
Romans 5:2

“By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.”

People who reject Jesus, refusing to believe the truth so as to be saved will be condemned .

There are two aspects to salvation: presence/effects of sin and lack of glorification. Nothing that eradicates sin glorifies the sinner. Both aspects must be resolved for salvation to occur. (Rom. 3:23; 5:8; 8:17-30)
 

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Those Christ died for their sins will not be charged to them, not one of them even unbeiief. All for whom He died there's a promise that God will be merciful to all their unrighteousness Heb 8:12


For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

That covers it! This is through Jesus the mediator of the New Covenant in His Blood. Heb 8:6

But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Matt 26:28

For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.18
Hebrews 8 .
8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of ISRAEL and with the house of JUDAH:

9Not according to the covenant that I made with their FATHERS in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10For this is the covenant that I will make with the HOUSE OF OF ISRAEL after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my LAWS into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to THEM a God, and THEY shall be to me a people:
 

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Again your adding to the word of God like a terrible paraphrase Bible. " The world of elect ' is a made up phrase .
I believe the bible when it says :
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
I .ll be able to say " God i just trusted your word , i set aside all these commentaries, and theologians and i just believed what you said , who you said it to and when you said it "
Its the elect world. This world in 2 Cor 5:19 doesnt have its sins imputed to them, thats a special world. Its not the world of the condemned 1 Cor 11:32

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

See Two different worlds !
 

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Hebrews 8 .
8For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of ISRAEL and with the house of JUDAH:

9Not according to the covenant that I made with their FATHERS in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10For this is the covenant that I will make with the HOUSE OF OF ISRAEL after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my LAWS into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to THEM a God, and THEY shall be to me a people:
Thats the Elect World, the Church. It doesnt have its sins imputed to them. This speaks of limited atonement as well.
 

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Its the elect world. This world in 2 Cor 5:19 doesnt have its sins imputed to them, thats a special world. Its not the world of the condemned 1 Cor 11:32

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

See Two different worlds !
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lol what does it say ?
What does it mean is the issue. The World in 2 Cor 5:19 doesnt have its sins charged to it. Theres a world that does have its sins charged to it, and is condemned 1 Cor 11:32
 

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Its the elect world. This world in 2 Cor 5:19 doesnt have its sins imputed to them, thats a special world. Its not the world of the condemned 1 Cor 11:32

32 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

See Two different worlds !
There is no verse that says ' the elect world ' . Believers + ' world ' do not go together in a verse . When it says Jesus reconciled the WORLD this was 2000 years ago . The Church/ believers and ' world ' are distinct.
 

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What does it mean is the issue. The World in 2 Cor 5:19 doesnt have its sins charged to it. Theres a world that does have its sins charged to it, and is condemned 1 Cor 11:32
You keep missing my point . What it says IS what it means. Thats how reading a book works . Calvinism works on ' proof texts ' not context .
 

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There is no verse that says ' the elect world ' . Believers + ' world ' do not go together in a verse . When it says Jesus reconciled the WORLD this was 2000 years ago . The Church/ believers and ' world ' are distinct.
It means elect world. The reconciled world doesnt have its sins charged to it 2 Cor 5:19. Thats different from the world that is condemned 1 Cor 11:32
 

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It means elect world. The reconciled world doesnt have its sins charged to it 2 Cor 5:19. Thats different from the world that is condemned 1 Cor 11:32
2000 years ago Jesus died/ reconciled the World . There was no ' church ' at this point . So now there is a distinction between ' world ' and believers . Believers are ' out of the world ' .
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


So we're not ' condemned with the world '
 

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You keep missing my point . What it says IS what it means. Thats how reading a book works . Calvinism works on ' proof texts ' not context .
Your point is error The world of 2 Cor 5:19 doesnt have sin imputed to it, but the world of 1 Cor 11:32 does.
 

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Your point is error The world of 2 Cor 5:19 doesnt have sin imputed to it, but the world of 1 Cor 11:32 does.
Why is the ' world ' condemned ? The answer is ,because it does not believe on the Son . Wow your confused .How can anyone have sin imputed to them ? Jesus paid for all sins . His blood paid for ALL SINS
 

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2000 years ago Jesus died/ reconciled the World . There was no ' church ' at this point . So now there is a distinction between ' world ' and believers . Believers are ' out of the world ' .
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


So we're not ' condemned with the world '
He died to reconcile the world of His Elect, which is His Church, His Body. Its the World of His Elect that doesnt have its sins charged to it Thats who Paul is writing to in the corinth 1 Cor 1:1-2

Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother, 2unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

He calls them the chosen 26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 but God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 and base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen,
 

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He died to reconcile the world of His Elect, which is His Church, His Body. Its the World of His Elect that doesnt have its sins charged to it Thats who Paul is writing to in the corinth 1 Cor 1:1-2

Paul, called to be an apostle of Jesus Christ through the will of God, and Sosthenes our brother, 2unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:

He calls them the chosen 26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27 but God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 and base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen,
No verse says he died for the ' world of the elect ' . Your believing something that's man made. Jesus reconciled the world . Thats the message of reconciliation. Thats the good news . Unlike Calvinism I can sincerely share the bible with everyone telling them that Jesus has died for their sins . I don't need to guess or play ' lucky dip ' I don't have to say " Jesus might have died for you " .
 

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2000 years ago Jesus died/ reconciled the World . There was no ' church ' at this point . So now there is a distinction between ' world ' and believers . Believers are ' out of the world ' .
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:


So we're not ' condemned with the world '
There's two worlds, one which God doesnt impute its sins to them 2 Cor 5:19 and a world God that is condemnd for their sins charged to them.