Sins cannot be charged!

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brightfame52

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The verse doesn't say that. If it doesn't say it why would you say that ? You could literally make the bible say anything you wanted with that approach.
Thats what you doing, making the bible say what you want it to say.
 

throughfaith

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Theres nothing to reconcile. God doesnt charge sin to some people, they are blessed Rom 4:8
' some people ' ?Thats not what it says .
6Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man , unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
 

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Theres nothing to reconcile. God doesnt charge sin to some people, they are blessed Rom 4:8
23¶Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Notice the resurrection? Its not the death that saves . No one could be justified apart from the resurrection.
 

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' some people ' ?Thats not what it says .
6Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man , unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.
Yes some people. Some people have sin charged to them. Duh
 

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23¶Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him;

24But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

25Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Notice the resurrection? Its not the death that saves . No one could be justified apart from the resurrection.
So what is your point ? Or do you just quote scripture without understanding them ?
 

throughfaith

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So what is your point ? Or do you just quote scripture without understanding them ?
That the atonement is not limited. Glorification is limited . Limited to those that recieve Jesus . People go to hell because they reject Jesus . Jesus is the access to the grace.
 

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Yes some people. Some people have sin charged to them. Duh
Calvinism has no clue about the atonement. Its famous for its blunders in this area .There are two aspects to salvation: presence/effects of sin and lack of glorification. Nothing that eradicates sin glorifies the sinner. Both aspects must be resolved for salvation to occur. (Rom. 3:23; 5:8; 8:17-30)
 

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That the atonement is not limited. Glorification is limited . Limited to those that recieve Jesus . People go to hell because they reject Jesus . Jesus is the access to the grace.
Sure the atonement is limited. The non imputation of sin likewise is limited to Gods Elect/Sheep.
 

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Jesus died for the sins of the world . This does not glorify anyone.
Only some people dont have their sins imputed to them, so that proves in and of itself Christ died only for some, His Sheep/Elect
 

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Only some people dont have their sins imputed to them, so that proves in and of itself Christ died only for some, His Sheep/Elect
Sure the atonement is limited. The non imputation of sin likewise is limited to Gods Elect/Sheep.
1 John 2:2

“And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
 

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Sure the atonement is limited. The non imputation of sin likewise is limited to Gods Elect/Sheep.
2 cor 5
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the WORLD unto himself, not imputing THEIR trespasses unto THEM ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
How much clearer could you want it to be? Do you see how the bible is opposite to Calvinism?
 

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2 cor 5
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the WORLD unto himself, not imputing THEIR trespasses unto THEM ; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
How much clearer could you want it to be? Do you see how the bible is opposite to Calvinism?
His Elect in the world !

His Elect, and they dont have sin charged to them.