Sins cannot be charged!

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brightfame52

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And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; and not for that nation only, but that also He should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad. ​
(John 11:51-52)​
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Thats the scattered children of God, not the children of the devil. They dont have their sins charged to them. Sorry everyone isnt a child of God !
 
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brightfame52

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posthuman said:
And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have eternal life, for God so loved the world, that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God: and this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.​
(John 3:14-19)​
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Okay, that world God loved and Christ died for, will not have sin charged to it.
 
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brightfame52

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Jesus said to them, ​
“If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘we see.’ ​
Therefore your sin remains."​
(John 9:41)​
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Obvious the ones who sins remained, God does impute sin to them, and so their sins were not imputed to Christ.
 
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throughfaith

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brightfame52 said:
He did taste death for every man He tasted death for. And they will not have sin charged to them, and they will be regenerated. So all for whom He tasted death for shall be regenerated. If a person is never regenerated then its obvious Christ didnt taste death for them.
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Yes and you think you have to endure to the end to be saved . Aka ' Lordship salvation ' . Anti biblical nonsense from Calvinism.
 
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brightfame52

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Yes and you think you have to endure to the end to be saved . Aka ' Lordship salvation ' . Anti biblical nonsense from Calvinism.
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You came out of left field with that. Don't know wat you talking about.
 
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brightfame52

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throughfaith said:
Yes that well known verse " For God so loved those that he knew he would die for to later regenerate "
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Now thats true. Also true that World is blessed because no sin is imputed to it 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
 
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throughfaith

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brightfame52 said:

Now thats true. Also true that World is blessed because no sin is imputed to it 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
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Once you become ' in christ ' ,then you are committed the word of reconciliation. A believer is to tell everyone he can the good news . But there is no good news in Calvinism . " Jesus might have died for you , erm if you believe the Gospel. "
 
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Magenta said:
Christ dying for everyone does not automatically save anybody.

For it is by grace you are saved, through faith.



Ephesians 2:8-9:)
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yes!

Salvation, as described by the Bible, is through belief.
there doesn't seem to be any room for belief in @brightfame52's conversation here, but i hope it appears . . ??
because he continues to describe it as purely a function of Christ's death, apart from faith.
 
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throughfaith said:
Once you become ' in christ ' ,then you are committed the word of reconciliation. A believer is to tell everyone he can the good news . But there is no good news in Calvinism . " Jesus might have died for you , erm if you believe the Gospel. "
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Unsound comment.
 
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brightfame52

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posthuman said:
yes!

Salvation, as described by the Bible, is through belief.
there doesn't seem to be any room for belief in @brightfame52's conversation here, but i hope it appears . . ??
because he continues to describe it as purely a function of Christ's death, apart from faith.
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Sin will not be charged to them Christ died for. It takes Faith to believe that.
 
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