Stop putting your trust in people like him. I believe the bible, on what it says about WHY Jesus died on the cross. 
TO SAVE US FROM SIN..
TO SAVE US FROM SIN..
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Can you articulate, with Scripture, why John Piper is not correct in what he is saying there? (I would like to know whether or not Jesus took the wrath of God for us, which is what John Piper is saying there, if I am correct about that)
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Words mean what they say. God also ended the entire humanity save Noah and his family. Doesn't mean we can do that. God hates sinners, PERIOD. You disagree with that you are disagreeing with the Bible.
And yes in many cases we do have a DIFFERENT standard than God. You would never torment anyone forever and ever, yet God does. In this world we don't even allow torture of prisoners of war, yet every bible blieving Christian is okay with God doing that. YOU KNOW WHY? its cause God is God.
Tough luck. Dont let wishywashy feminine western hullabaloo influence your way of thinking.
And yes in many cases we do have a DIFFERENT standard than God. You would never torment anyone forever and ever, yet God does. In this world we don't even allow torture of prisoners of war, yet every bible blieving Christian is okay with God doing that. YOU KNOW WHY? its cause God is God.
Tough luck. Dont let wishywashy feminine western hullabaloo influence your way of thinking.
If you have already accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you're safe. But if you've never gotten saved, I would do it before it's too late.
But if you've never gotten saved, I would do it before it's too late.
You are missing the whole point;
We are not saved while here on this earth...we are born again ........and can loose that status.
After death G-d will judge us and if we pass muster we will be declared saved for eternity. (see the difference?)
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John Piper is a Calvinist and will definitely MISLEAD people about salvation.
Back to the OP. Yes, Christ did indeed pay the penalty for our sins on the cross, and He did indeed shed His blood for our redemption. We must believe this with our whole heart, and believe on Him alone as our Lord and Savior. Those who believe have their sins forgiven and washed away, and their souls washed in the blood of the Lamb of God.
Back to the OP. Yes, Christ did indeed pay the penalty for our sins on the cross, and He did indeed shed His blood for our redemption. We must believe this with our whole heart, and believe on Him alone as our Lord and Savior. Those who believe have their sins forgiven and washed away, and their souls washed in the blood of the Lamb of God.