Retire the Ten Commandments?
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And what comfirms that you believe....uh cording to scripture
JUDE 1 [4] For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. [5] I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT, afterward DESTROYED THEM THAT BELIEVED NOT.
Put you in remembrance. Remember. So who are these ungodly people who turned the GRACE of God into lasciviousness and who the Lord destroyed due to unbelief? Jude1 and Hebrews 3 and Zeke 20 are speaking of the same event. Alls we gotta do is go look at scripture that tells us why they were destroyed in the wilderness
HEBREWS 3 [12]Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you AN EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF, in departing from the living God. [13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. [14] For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; [15] WHILE IT IS SAID, TO DAY IF YE WILL HEAR HIS VOICE, HARDEN NOT YOUR HEARTS, AS IN THE PROVOCATION. [16] For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came OUT OF EGYPT by Moses. [17] But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, WHOSE CARCASES FELL IN THE WILDERNESS? [18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? [19] So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief
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Scripture above (out of Egypt - into the wilderness - those that believed not - destroyed them)
Scripture below (out of Egypt - into the wilderness - polluted HIS SABBATHS - destroyed them)
EZEK.20 [10] Wherefore I caused them to go forth OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT, and brought them INTO THE WILDERNESS. [11] And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.[12] Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.[13] But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and MY SABBATHS THEY GREATLY POLLUTED: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them IN THE WILDERNESS, TO CONSUME THEM.
There it is. They were destroyed in the wilderness because they were not keeping Gods sabbath day. Today hear His voice!
JUDE 1 [4] For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. [5] I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT, afterward DESTROYED THEM THAT BELIEVED NOT.
Put you in remembrance. Remember. So who are these ungodly people who turned the GRACE of God into lasciviousness and who the Lord destroyed due to unbelief? Jude1 and Hebrews 3 and Zeke 20 are speaking of the same event. Alls we gotta do is go look at scripture that tells us why they were destroyed in the wilderness
HEBREWS 3 [12]Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you AN EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF, in departing from the living God. [13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. [14] For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end; [15] WHILE IT IS SAID, TO DAY IF YE WILL HEAR HIS VOICE, HARDEN NOT YOUR HEARTS, AS IN THE PROVOCATION. [16] For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came OUT OF EGYPT by Moses. [17] But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, WHOSE CARCASES FELL IN THE WILDERNESS? [18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? [19] So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief
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Scripture above (out of Egypt - into the wilderness - those that believed not - destroyed them)
Scripture below (out of Egypt - into the wilderness - polluted HIS SABBATHS - destroyed them)
EZEK.20 [10] Wherefore I caused them to go forth OUT OF THE LAND OF EGYPT, and brought them INTO THE WILDERNESS. [11] And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.[12] Moreover also I gave them my sabbaths, to be a sign between me and them, that they might know that I am the LORD that sanctify them.[13] But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and MY SABBATHS THEY GREATLY POLLUTED: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them IN THE WILDERNESS, TO CONSUME THEM.
There it is. They were destroyed in the wilderness because they were not keeping Gods sabbath day. Today hear His voice!
not at all.
as a matter of fact, the reason I know that Sabbath for salvation in Christ is a load of hooey.
I refuse to rip verses out of the Bible to ( like Leviticus 26) or pretend that " whosoever believes " really means " whosoever keeps the Sabbath" or I have to keep the Sabbath to make the free gift of Salvation available ....
I could go on and on, but you and the other judeaizers do not care about facts.
as a matter of fact, the reason I know that Sabbath for salvation in Christ is a load of hooey.
I refuse to rip verses out of the Bible to ( like Leviticus 26) or pretend that " whosoever believes " really means " whosoever keeps the Sabbath" or I have to keep the Sabbath to make the free gift of Salvation available ....
I could go on and on, but you and the other judeaizers do not care about facts.
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safswan said:
Are you blind?All the scriptures I have presented show that even though the covenant was made with Israel it was not ONLY for Israel.There is no scripture which says,either the covenant,or the laws of God was ONLY for Israel.
You are getting ahead of yourself here.What we have been discussing,so far,was your erroneous view about Christians and Sunday and your erroneous belief that Gentiles were not subject to the laws given to Israel.Why are you changing the subject?Seems you are the one avoiding the issues.
Are you blind?All the scriptures I have presented show that even though the covenant was made with Israel it was not ONLY for Israel.There is no scripture which says,either the covenant,or the laws of God was ONLY for Israel.
You are getting ahead of yourself here.What we have been discussing,so far,was your erroneous view about Christians and Sunday and your erroneous belief that Gentiles were not subject to the laws given to Israel.Why are you changing the subject?Seems you are the one avoiding the issues.
But the "New Covenant" promise was also very specific in the OT.
Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
...so this covenant was also promised to them. I think you may be ignoring this.
So if we go with your reasoning then likewise the gentiles can't participate in Christ (i.e. the New Covenant) because he wasn't promised to them either.
...but we know that's not true, clearly.
Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
...so this covenant was also promised to them. I think you may be ignoring this.
So if we go with your reasoning then likewise the gentiles can't participate in Christ (i.e. the New Covenant) because he wasn't promised to them either.
...but we know that's not true, clearly.
This is not the only thing he is ignoring.
He has ignored all the scriptures I have presented which shows the laws of God were not only applicable to Israel.
He has ignored the fact that,whereas the covenants were made with Israel,there is no scripture which says they were ONLY for Israel.
He has ignored scripture which shows Israel acted as custodians of the word of God which was not for them alone.
He has ignored scripture which shows that the covenant,when made,was NOT ONLY for those who were present at that time.
His ignoring is beyond measure.
Already done. Gods word! I use a LOT of study helps. The WORD is very real in my life. Even satan can quote scriptures and if he does I will take it. The Holy Spirit will not let the word do harm in my life no matter who quotes it! Its their commentaries I question and weigh against the word abd Spirit!🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
o,k,
where? I do not mean just posting other Scripture to " refute " ( Scripture does not contradict, you can not " refute " Scripture with other Scripture. another legalist/ Judeaizer trick to try to deceive ).
when you specifically explain how God speaking of the Covenant He made with the fathers of those who came out of Egypt is applicable to everyone on Earth, if they are decedents or not, you will by dully noted.
until then, I stand by what I said- you have not addressed this.
where? I do not mean just posting other Scripture to " refute " ( Scripture does not contradict, you can not " refute " Scripture with other Scripture. another legalist/ Judeaizer trick to try to deceive ).
when you specifically explain how God speaking of the Covenant He made with the fathers of those who came out of Egypt is applicable to everyone on Earth, if they are decedents or not, you will by dully noted.
until then, I stand by what I said- you have not addressed this.
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