Research: Majority of Americans Believe Works Are the Key to Salvation
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I gave you ALL of the context you need. But instead, you try to force some kind of "condition" on recipients before they shall never perish.
You have said eternal life is given at the end of one's life. That is unbiblical, as John 3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40, 47 and 1 John 5:11 say that believers possess eternal life. Jesus gives eternal life to believers. That would be WHEN they become believers. You reject that.
Right. The single condition is to believe in Him. When one does, He gives them eternal life. And recipients of eternal life shall never perish. But you reject that.
wrong.
Wrong.
I've given you ALL you need to understand John 10:28, but you just keep rejecting all of it.
You have said eternal life is given at the end of one's life. That is unbiblical, as John 3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40, 47 and 1 John 5:11 say that believers possess eternal life. Jesus gives eternal life to believers. That would be WHEN they become believers. You reject that.
Right. The single condition is to believe in Him. When one does, He gives them eternal life. And recipients of eternal life shall never perish. But you reject that.
wrong.
Wrong.
I've given you ALL you need to understand John 10:28, but you just keep rejecting all of it.
Yes the condition is believe in Him
But you don't understand what is believe mean
Friend, believe mean trust all His(Jesus) instruction, teaching and command
For example His teaching on how He judge people
He say, the sheep go to heaven because they help the poor
And you don't believe His teaching
Why you say believe and don't believe His teaching?
But you don't understand what is believe mean
Friend, believe mean trust all His(Jesus) instruction, teaching and command
For example His teaching on how He judge people
He say, the sheep go to heaven because they help the poor
And you don't believe His teaching
Why you say believe and don't believe His teaching?
Correct.
I do. It is you who doesn't.
Specifically to be saved, one MUST trust that Jesus died for their sins and gives eternal life to those who do trust Him.
I can PROVE this with Scripture. But you've already seen them.
Has nothing to do with getting saved.
How you CAN'T see that this heresy is a works salvation system. I absolutely reject that. Again, you totally misunderstand Matt 25.
The REAL question is why you say you believe but don't believe what He teaches?
You're the one who is talking out of both sides of their mouth.
Jesus said believers possess eternal life in John 3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40, 47. But you don't believe that.
Jesus said recipients of eternal life (believers) shall never perish in John 10:28. But you don't believe that either.
So don't tell me that I don't believe what Jesus teaches.
What you do is twist verses to mean what you want them to mean.
Please take the verses I keep sharing with you and prove to me that I am not understanding them properly.
I do. It is you who doesn't.
Specifically to be saved, one MUST trust that Jesus died for their sins and gives eternal life to those who do trust Him.
I can PROVE this with Scripture. But you've already seen them.
Has nothing to do with getting saved.
How you CAN'T see that this heresy is a works salvation system. I absolutely reject that. Again, you totally misunderstand Matt 25.
The REAL question is why you say you believe but don't believe what He teaches?
You're the one who is talking out of both sides of their mouth.
Jesus said believers possess eternal life in John 3:15,16, 5:24, 6:40, 47. But you don't believe that.
Jesus said recipients of eternal life (believers) shall never perish in John 10:28. But you don't believe that either.
So don't tell me that I don't believe what Jesus teaches.
What you do is twist verses to mean what you want them to mean.
Please take the verses I keep sharing with you and prove to me that I am not understanding them properly.
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Do you believe this?
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
(Rom 5:18-19)
I hope you believe it, it is God's Word.
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
(Rom 5:18-19)
I hope you believe it, it is God's Word.
I think you ignore the fact
This what Jesus say
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdomprepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
And you twist say Jesus not talking about heaven?
This what Jesus say
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdomprepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
And you twist say Jesus not talking about heaven?
You mean it's only for those who believe the Gospel. We are not saved by His teaching, we are saved by His death for our sins and His resurrection...
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
(1Co 15:1-4)
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
(1Co 15:1-4)
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Jesus Himself say
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdomprepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
Do you think what Jesus say contradict what Paul say?
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdomprepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
Do you think what Jesus say contradict what Paul say?
Titus 3:3-7
For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. 4But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. 4But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared, 5Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; 6Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour; 7That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
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yes on preparation day for "high sabbath" see John 19:31 -- not preparation day for weekly ((low)) sabbath.
the Paschal week has more than one sabbath. one of them is the first sabbath of Unleavened Bread.
and He rose on the 3rd day -- on Firstfruits, the first day of the week, John 20:1, Mark 16:1-2
friday crucifixion with sunday resurrection ((the catholic tradition)) simply doesn't have 3 days and nights between it. some sabbatarians even insist on a friday crucifixion & saturday resurrection!
it's off-topic of course. many threads on the subject in the history of the forum.
the Paschal week has more than one sabbath. one of them is the first sabbath of Unleavened Bread.
and He rose on the 3rd day -- on Firstfruits, the first day of the week, John 20:1, Mark 16:1-2
friday crucifixion with sunday resurrection ((the catholic tradition)) simply doesn't have 3 days and nights between it. some sabbatarians even insist on a friday crucifixion & saturday resurrection!
it's off-topic of course. many threads on the subject in the history of the forum.
