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Perfect in the Bible means mature as when a tree produces fruit. Ready to harvest. In the church sometimes when they say perfect they mean free from sin.
Thank you for that I understand perfect to mean complete. Since we are to "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.", He being complete unto Himself, so are we to find our fullness of being in Him
I understand perfect to mean complete. Since we are to "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.", He being complete unto Himself, so are we to find our fullness of being in Him
"Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things." (Philippians 4:8)
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We are told that "everything" was "very good". "And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." (Gensis 1:31) In the Hebrew the word is Kal meaning all.
"Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, or with the breadth of his hand marked off the heavens? Who has held the dust of the earth in a basket, or weighed the mountains on the scales and the hills in a balance?" (Isaiah 40:12)
"Who has measured the waters in the hollow of his hand, or with the breadth of his hand marked off the heavens? Who has held the dust of the earth in a basket, or weighed the mountains on the scales and the hills in a balance?" (Isaiah 40:12)
I just very recently posted that in another thread
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The starting place.
I must have the correct starting place.
Most error is oblivious to that dynamic.
A perfect incubator for error is mens reason and wisdom.
All either are,or can be ,decieved.
There is only one who cannot be decieved.
His name is Jesus.
Truth is not a concept.....it is a person.
What we have here is truth/Jesus shoved aside to spread "truth"
You can not possibly be any dumber
I must have the correct starting place.
Most error is oblivious to that dynamic.
A perfect incubator for error is mens reason and wisdom.
All either are,or can be ,decieved.
There is only one who cannot be decieved.
His name is Jesus.
Truth is not a concept.....it is a person.
What we have here is truth/Jesus shoved aside to spread "truth"
You can not possibly be any dumber
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Luke 16:19-31 is commonly alleged to be a parable; which of course implies
that the story is fiction; and some would even say fantasy. But the parable
theory has a fatal flaw. Abraham is not a fictional character: he's a real-life
man; the father of the Hebrew people, held in very high esteem by at least
three of the world's prominent religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
He was also a prophet (Gen 20:7) and the friend of God (Isa 41:8).
I simply cannot accept that Jesus Christ-- a man famous among normal
Christians for his honesty and integrity --would say something untrue about
a famous real-life man; most especially a prophet and one of his Father's
buddies.
And on top of that, the story quotes Abraham a number of times. Well; if the
story is fiction, then Jesus Christ is on record testifying that Abraham said
things that he didn't really say.
As a prophet, Abraham was an inspired man. As such, he would be privy to
information that would normally be unavailable to the average rank and file
pew warmer. Abraham was also a teacher/mentor. (Gen 18:19)
So then, I think it's fairly safe to assume the information that Abraham
passed on to the rich man came to Abraham via inspiration; which, if so,
means that our reaction to Abraham's remarks should be very different than
the rich man's. He brushed aside what Abraham told him; but we, I should
hope, are wiser than that impious dunce because we know that a prophet's
teachings are the voice of God.
There is something else to consider.
The story of the rich man and Lazarus didn't originate with Jesus Christ. No,
it originated with Jehovah. In other words: Jesus Christ was micro-managed.
● John 3:34 . . He is sent by God. He speaks God's words
● John 8:26 . . He that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those
things which I have heard of Him.
● John 8:28 . . I do nothing on my own initiative, but I speak these things as
the Father taught me.
● John 12:49 . . I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
● John 14:24 . .The word which you hear is not mine, but the Father's who
sent me.
So, by alleging that Luke 16:19-31 is fiction/fantasy, the parable theory
slanders God by insinuating that He's a person of marginal integrity who
can't be trusted to tell the truth about people, not even about His own
friends, which is ridiculous seeing as how Titus 1:2 and Heb 6:18 testify that
God cannot lie.
God's impeccable character is what makes that narrative all the more
disturbing. Unless somebody can prove, beyond a shadow of sensible doubt,
that Christ's Father is a tale-spinner; I pretty much have to assume Luke
16:19-31 was drawn from real life because I certainly don't want to be listed
among those who believe Jehovah is capable of dishonesty.
● 1John 5:10 . . The person not having faith in God has made Him a liar,
because he has not put his faith in the witness given which God, as witness,
has given concerning His son.
I must conclude then that there really is an afterlife place of conscious
suffering where people endure unbearable anxiety worrying their loved ones
are on a road to where they are and there is no way to warn them; similar
to the survivors of the Titanic watching their loved ones go to Davy Jones
while utterly helpless to do anything about it.
You know what can be even worse than going to hell? Your own children
following you there: and they trusted you. Here's a sort of cute story I heard
once. I don't know if it's true but I guess it sure is pertinent.
A thirsty farmer went out to his barn in the dead of night after a snowfall to
sneak a pull from a hidden liquor bottle. Just as he got to the barn door he
heard something behind him. Turning, the farmer recognized his little boy
coming towards him. In amazement he asked the little guy how he ever
managed to find his way out to the barn in the dark. His son replied: It was
easy; I walked in your footsteps.
Can you just imagine the anguish that parents feel in the netherworld
knowing they brought up their children to follow an ideology whose pot at
the end of the rainbow is filled with fire instead of gold. How do people bear
up under something like that on their conscience?
_
Luke 16:19-31 is commonly alleged to be a parable; which of course implies
that the story is fiction; and some would even say fantasy. But the parable
theory has a fatal flaw. Abraham is not a fictional character: he's a real-life
man; the father of the Hebrew people, held in very high esteem by at least
three of the world's prominent religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.
He was also a prophet (Gen 20:7) and the friend of God (Isa 41:8).
I simply cannot accept that Jesus Christ-- a man famous among normal
Christians for his honesty and integrity --would say something untrue about
a famous real-life man; most especially a prophet and one of his Father's
buddies.
And on top of that, the story quotes Abraham a number of times. Well; if the
story is fiction, then Jesus Christ is on record testifying that Abraham said
things that he didn't really say.
As a prophet, Abraham was an inspired man. As such, he would be privy to
information that would normally be unavailable to the average rank and file
pew warmer. Abraham was also a teacher/mentor. (Gen 18:19)
So then, I think it's fairly safe to assume the information that Abraham
passed on to the rich man came to Abraham via inspiration; which, if so,
means that our reaction to Abraham's remarks should be very different than
the rich man's. He brushed aside what Abraham told him; but we, I should
hope, are wiser than that impious dunce because we know that a prophet's
teachings are the voice of God.
There is something else to consider.
The story of the rich man and Lazarus didn't originate with Jesus Christ. No,
it originated with Jehovah. In other words: Jesus Christ was micro-managed.
● John 3:34 . . He is sent by God. He speaks God's words
● John 8:26 . . He that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those
things which I have heard of Him.
● John 8:28 . . I do nothing on my own initiative, but I speak these things as
the Father taught me.
● John 12:49 . . I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me,
He gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
● John 14:24 . .The word which you hear is not mine, but the Father's who
sent me.
So, by alleging that Luke 16:19-31 is fiction/fantasy, the parable theory
slanders God by insinuating that He's a person of marginal integrity who
can't be trusted to tell the truth about people, not even about His own
friends, which is ridiculous seeing as how Titus 1:2 and Heb 6:18 testify that
God cannot lie.
God's impeccable character is what makes that narrative all the more
disturbing. Unless somebody can prove, beyond a shadow of sensible doubt,
that Christ's Father is a tale-spinner; I pretty much have to assume Luke
16:19-31 was drawn from real life because I certainly don't want to be listed
among those who believe Jehovah is capable of dishonesty.
● 1John 5:10 . . The person not having faith in God has made Him a liar,
because he has not put his faith in the witness given which God, as witness,
has given concerning His son.
I must conclude then that there really is an afterlife place of conscious
suffering where people endure unbearable anxiety worrying their loved ones
are on a road to where they are and there is no way to warn them; similar
to the survivors of the Titanic watching their loved ones go to Davy Jones
while utterly helpless to do anything about it.
You know what can be even worse than going to hell? Your own children
following you there: and they trusted you. Here's a sort of cute story I heard
once. I don't know if it's true but I guess it sure is pertinent.
A thirsty farmer went out to his barn in the dead of night after a snowfall to
sneak a pull from a hidden liquor bottle. Just as he got to the barn door he
heard something behind him. Turning, the farmer recognized his little boy
coming towards him. In amazement he asked the little guy how he ever
managed to find his way out to the barn in the dark. His son replied: It was
easy; I walked in your footsteps.
Can you just imagine the anguish that parents feel in the netherworld
knowing they brought up their children to follow an ideology whose pot at
the end of the rainbow is filled with fire instead of gold. How do people bear
up under something like that on their conscience?
_
My private interpretation or personal commentary.... yes .Every man has one like fingerprints..
How do you define the word Christian, the new name that the father named the bride in Acts?
.Every man has one like fingerprints..How do you define the word Christian, the new name that the father named the bride in Acts?
The problem is that you don't merely make the comments or offer opinions. You respond to others and clearly imply they are wrong because they don't hold to your invented definitions.