Question in story of noah.
- Thread starter Jo2016
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Then why does Paul put an emphasis on "because of the angels" when it pertains to women?
What event could Peter and Jude be referring to in the scriptures that existed before their lifetimes?
I think it is interesting you mention Sodom actually since the wicked men of that city tried to know Lot's guests.
What event could Peter and Jude be referring to in the scriptures that existed before their lifetimes?
I think it is interesting you mention Sodom actually since the wicked men of that city tried to know Lot's guests.
I have made no argument to begin with. The scriptures are watertight, and the fullness of the scriptures about this event taken together answer this OP leaving no room for any error. The answer is that yes, the first angels that fell in the days of Noah did mingle with women, but these angels that fell are now in hell in chains of darkness and the world that existed back then was overthrown in the Flood and all flesh died upon the face of the earth except for that which God saved with Noah in the Ark.
-
1
-
1
- Show all
This scripture is quite enlightening! When Angels had the ability to materialize, they used the natural use of themselves for something unnatural just like humans do today, Roman 1:26-17. It clearly states that they had hybrid children called the Nephilim. (Genesis 6:1-4) Today, humans are so far removed from God and the Bible that they make this a complicated thought, but it is not. This clearly explains the elongated-headed Giant skeletons found through archaeology (native American burial grounds in Ohio and other places).
you know how your theory relies on this
and you are equating it to mean the angels saw a woman’s hair and then came and had sex with them ?
“Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.”
1 Corinthians 11:9-10, 13-15 KJV
note he’s saying if a women has long hair that is her covering not that she needs to cover her hair so as not to tempt angels 🙂
that relates to this
“For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”
1 Timothy 2:13-14 KJV
that’s what he’s talking about notice he never talks about angels raping women or having consensual sex with them but the context is all about Adam being formed first and then Eve and so she should wear a sign of authority on her head ?
It’s because the angels deceived her Satan specifically who was a powerful angel who tempted and deceived Eve in her mind which is the angels actual transgression
she was deceived and therefore should we’re a covering on her head long hair being sufficient for her covering
and you are equating it to mean the angels saw a woman’s hair and then came and had sex with them ?
“Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels.
Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered? Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him? But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.”
1 Corinthians 11:9-10, 13-15 KJV
note he’s saying if a women has long hair that is her covering not that she needs to cover her hair so as not to tempt angels 🙂
that relates to this
“For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”
1 Timothy 2:13-14 KJV
that’s what he’s talking about notice he never talks about angels raping women or having consensual sex with them but the context is all about Adam being formed first and then Eve and so she should wear a sign of authority on her head ?
It’s because the angels deceived her Satan specifically who was a powerful angel who tempted and deceived Eve in her mind which is the angels actual transgression
she was deceived and therefore should we’re a covering on her head long hair being sufficient for her covering
-
2
- Show all
Revelation 12:4 speaks of Satan's cohorts that were kicked down to the earth with him. One-third of the Angels in Heaven rebelled with Satan. The scriptures say wow to the earth and to the sea for "they" have come down having great anger knowing they have a short period of time. Revelation 20:1-3
-
1
- Show all
Amen when Christ the king was seated in heaven this happened
“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
Revelation 12:10-12 KJV
so on earth we have this situation now
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
1 Peter 5:8-9 KJV
“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ:
for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them.
Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.”
Revelation 12:10-12 KJV
so on earth we have this situation now
“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
1 Peter 5:8-9 KJV
-
1
- Show all
Some things cannot be seen or understood if God's spirit does not reveal these things to you. You will remain confused or what is so clear will be obscured for you. Her/their comments are clear and precise to me. Angels materialized had sex with human woman and had a hybrid call Nephilim. They have found the giant elongated skulled skeletons in different parts of the world.
thank you, yes I’m aware of what the plain text of the passage says. There’s varying theology on if the war in heaven is past or future. For example, by the time of this writing John was having a vision of the things in which he transcribed, speaking of a time prior to the great tribulation.
So has the great tribulation happened, or is it ongoing, or will it happen in the future? The war in heaven and Satan’s subsequent fall to earth precede the great tribulation. Which one do you think it is? Where are we now?
So has the great tribulation happened, or is it ongoing, or will it happen in the future? The war in heaven and Satan’s subsequent fall to earth precede the great tribulation. Which one do you think it is? Where are we now?
And let's not forget the book of Enoch. Although it is not regarded as Scripture by the majority of Christians (Ethiopian Jews and Ethiopian Orthodox Christians do accept it), it does give us tremendous insight into the angels which sinned. The fact that Jude quotes Enoch is also something to keep in mind.
-
2
-
1
- Show all
