Question about the king of the Jews

[Shilohsfoal]

Um. I see.

The actual dichotomy is Adam or Christ. This includes all who is alive and who have ever been alive.

This is the understanding of Romans 5 (LINK)

While is is not wrong to say some of Israel will be in Christ while some will not, it is not a complete view: this truth is axiomatic for all of humankind.

However, it seems you are focused on making a point rather than inviting discussion. If not, please forgive me. If you want to discuss this further I am certainly willing.

I pretty much except things as the Lord says it.
If God tells the descendents of Israel that he will make them a holy nation and a kingdom of priests.I fully except his word. .

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

But again

thebi le says they will repent and be restored,

so why do you fail to believe this?

From what I've read 144.000 or Israel are sealed with the name of God in their foreheads.Now that's about 2 percent of Israels population .2 percent is about the Christian population in Israel today as well.
I don't think there is going to be this major shift of opinion in Israel.Not alot of repenting going on if you know what I mean.

Besides,someone is going to have to beat the christians in the synagogues.Who do you think is going to do the beating,?

Mark 13
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

But again

thebi le says they will repent and be restored,

so why do you fail to believe this?

The bible does not say all of Jacobs descendents repent.
Isaiah 10:22
“For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.”


A remnant will be saved.

 

[Aaron56]

I pretty much except things as the Lord says it.
If God tells the descendents of Israel that he will make them a holy nation and a kingdom of priests.I fully except his word. .

Exodus 19:6
And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

You forgot the first part:

“Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine,6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

This is not forbearance. This is the covenant that says “do what I tell you” or “be led by My Spirit”. Abraham believed God and received the promises of this covenant. This is the covenant between God the Son and God the Father. The Jews did not go into the presence of God. They sent Moses in their stead and received the 10 Commandments and the law.

As proof, the consequences of this covenant (you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation) are fully realized in Christ.

This is how Peter could proclaim to the saints in the New Testament “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.”

A royal (kingly) priesthood = a kingdom of priests and, the last part is the same, a holy nation.

This is true for all in Christ: whether Jew or non-Jew.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

You forgot the first part:

“Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine,6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

This is not forbearance. This is the covenant that says “do what I tell you” or “be led by My Spirit”. Abraham believed God and received the promises of this covenant. This is the covenant between God the Son and God the Father. The Jews did not go into the presence of God. They sent Moses in their stead and received the 10 Commandments and the law.

As proof, the consequences of this covenant (you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation) are fully realized in Christ.

This is how Peter could proclaim to the saints in the New Testament “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.”

A royal (kingly) priesthood = a kingdom of priests and, the last part is the same, a holy nation.

This is true for all in Christ: whether Jew or non-Jew.

This is the covenant that God made with the Israelites.The Israelites who keep his commandments will be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.

Here are the Israelites who keep Gods commandments reigning with Christ in the kingdom God was speaking of in Exodus.

Revelation 20
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.



These are the Israelites who do not worship the Israeli government and it's kingdom ,nor do they recieve it's mark.
They die for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God and then are resurected in the first resurection.Thee are the same Israelites who live in the land of Israel without walls or bars in peace in Ezekiel 38 before Gog and the nations come against them.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

You forgot the first part:

“Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine,6 you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.’ These are the words you are to speak to the Israelites.”

This is not forbearance. This is the covenant that says “do what I tell you” or “be led by My Spirit”. Abraham believed God and received the promises of this covenant. This is the covenant between God the Son and God the Father. The Jews did not go into the presence of God. They sent Moses in their stead and received the 10 Commandments and the law.

As proof, the consequences of this covenant (you will be for me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation) are fully realized in Christ.

This is how Peter could proclaim to the saints in the New Testament “But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy.”

A royal (kingly) priesthood = a kingdom of priests and, the last part is the same, a holy nation.

This is true for all in Christ: whether Jew or non-Jew.

The word of God is not wrong.The Israelites will reign over the nations in the Lord's land.
They will reign with Christ.That is,them who are not destroyed for worshiping the beast .God is a jealous God.

Isaiah 14:2
Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the LORD’s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors.

 

[Aaron56]

The word of God is not wrong.The Israelites will reign over the nations in the Lord's land.
They will reign with Christ.That is,them who are not destroyed for worshiping the beast .God is a jealous God.

Isaiah 14:2
Nations will take them and bring them to their own place. And Israel will take possession of the nations and make them male and female servants in the LORD’s land. They will make captives of their captors and rule over their oppressors.

Nope. I was right about you just wanting to make a point. I won’t bother you any more.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

From what I've read 144.000 or Israel are sealed with the name of God in their foreheads.Now that's about 2 percent of Israels population .2 percent is about the Christian population in Israel today as well.
I don't think there is going to be this major shift of opinion in Israel.Not alot of repenting going on if you know what I mean.

Besides,someone is going to have to beat the christians in the synagogues.Who do you think is going to do the beating,?

Mark 13
9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

I posted Ezekiel where the prophet said all of Jacob and Judy would be restored and stop their sins
that’s way more than 144000
that’s everyone. As Paul said in Roman’s 11

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

The bible does not say all of Jacobs descendents repent.
Isaiah 10:22
“For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.”


A remnant will be saved.

Dude I just posted the passage that Sid there will be. Time when they all will repent and god will restore them

A remnant is saved today. Why do we need a remnant. Because god will not break the bloodline. Because he is not done with them
mad Paul said. They re blind in part. Until the time of the gentile is complete. Then lol isreal will be saved.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Dude I just posted the passage that Sid there will be. Time when they all will repent and god will restore them

A remnant is saved today. Why do we need a remnant. Because god will not break the bloodline. Because he is not done with them
mad Paul said. They re blind in part. Until the time of the gentile is complete. Then lol isreal will be saved.

They all will repent?
They are dying everyday without repentance.They will continue to die everyday without repentance.

Jews without repentance will be persecuting saints right up to the day Jesus comes and then it will be to late for them to repent.



Mathew 10:23
When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.


Do you not know who it is persecuting the saints in all the cities of Israel at the time of he end,,?
They are called Israelis.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

I posted Ezekiel where the prophet said all of Jacob and Judy would be restored and stop their sins
that’s way more than 144000
that’s everyone. As Paul said in Roman’s 11

Jesus said they will be cast out.
I will take Jesus word for it over yours.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Dude I just posted the passage that Sid there will be. Time when they all will repent and god will restore them

A remnant is saved today. Why do we need a remnant. Because god will not break the bloodline. Because he is not done with them
mad Paul said. They re blind in part. Until the time of the gentile is complete. Then lol isreal will be saved.

Are the women being raped in Jerusalem on the day of the Lord saved,?

How saved are they?

Zech 14
14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.


The word of God says he gathers the nations to Jerusalem and the women are raped.
Does it sound like he is saving those women to you?Or is he handing them over to their enemies?


This is what the Lord says he will do to the children of israel.who are cursed.

Deut 28
30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.


The Lord has not only brought the nations again Jerusalem ,they take Jerusalem and rape the women.


Is that what you call saved?

 

[PaulThomson]

These are facts.In a vision,Herod could appear as a seven headed beast.But the above verses are actual events showing who tried to kill Jesus.

Or.... could Herod be a part of the seven headed beast? And could the seven headed beast be some kind of conglomeration under the control of the god of this world?

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Or.... could Herod be a part of the seven headed beast? And could the seven headed beast be some kind of conglomeration under the control of the god of this world?

The seven heads are seven mountains on which sit a prostitute. A city.
Herod could represent the government of that city.

King of Babylon who today is smiting Palestina with its rod.
When the rod of the king of Babylon is broken,palestinia and the cedars trees of Lebanon will rejoice over his fall.

 

[PaulThomson]

The seven heads are seven mountains on which sit a prostitute. A city.
Herod could represent the government of that city.

King of Babylon who today is smiting Palestina with its rod.
When the rod of the king of Babylon is broken,palestinia and the cedars trees of Lebanon will rejoice over his fall.

Or could seven mountains be seven empires and the harlot be a blasphemous spirit that has seduced those seven empires into spiritual harlotry?

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

They all will repent?
They are dying everyday without repentance.They will continue to die everyday without repentance.

yes they will. They are still in the time of they are blind in part. The time that they all repent has not come yet

Jews without repentance will be persecuting saints right up to the day Jesus comes and then it will be to late for them to repent.

Actually they repent right before he returns, this is what the word says..

Mathew 10:23
When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.


Do you not know who it is persecuting the saints in all the cities of Israel at the time of he end,,?
They are called Israelis.

Nope. Israel is in hiding, Because God protects them, in fact 144000 of them come to christ and goes out to witness to the world.

Again, Please study end times prophesies.

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Jesus said they will be cast out.
I will take Jesus word for it over yours.

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

This does not prove your point. Everyone who rejects Christ, jew or gentile will be cast out..

 

[Everlasting-Grace]

Are the women being raped in Jerusalem on the day of the Lord saved,?

How saved are they?

Zech 14
14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.

2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city.

Israel did not do this, the nations did this

The word of God says he gathers the nations to Jerusalem and the women are raped.
Does it sound like he is saving those women to you?Or is he handing them over to their enemies?

This happened in 70 AD. It also happened when Nebuchadnezzar came to the city, and when assyria destroyed the north. it will happen again when the man of sin enters the city, Thats why Jesus told them when you see the abomination of desolation to RUN

This is what the Lord says he will do to the children of israel.who are cursed.

Deut 28
30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.


The Lord has not only brought the nations again Jerusalem ,they take Jerusalem and rape the women.


Is that what you call saved?

lol. Dude your not listening to anything

Please try to slow down and READ.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Or could seven mountains be seven empires and the harlot be a blasphemous spirit that has seduced those seven empires into spiritual harlotry?

Revelation 17:9
And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 17:18
The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

Isaiah 1:21
See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers!

 

[Shilohsfoal]

yes they will. They are still in the time of they are blind in part. The time that they all repent has not come yet


Actually they repent right before he returns, this is what the word says..



Nope. Israel is in hiding, Because God protects them, in fact 144000 of them come to christ and goes out to witness to the world.

Again, Please study end times prophesies.

So you believe everyone in Israel who has received the mark of the beast in order to buy and sell food before Christ comes will repent when he comes?
Somehow I just can't see that happening.


You want me to study end time prophecies like this?

Revelation 9:21
Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.