Psalm 12 under the microscope
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When silver is refined in a furnace, the same batch goes in and is refined seven times. That is not what happened with the English translations. The analogy is non-existent. David wasn't writing of the KJV 2600 years in advance. It's a stupid argument and should never be quoted by any intelligent person.
Hem
Strong's Number: 1992
Original Word
Word Origin
~h
from (01981)
Transliterated Word
TDNT Entry
Hem
TWOT - 504
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
haym
Masculine
Definition
NAS Word Usage - Total: 135
both 1, both* 1, ones 1, others 1, part 1, places 1, same 1, side 1, such 1, theirs 8, theirs* 3, themselves 9, there 5, these 13, things 1, this 2, those 65, very 1, where 1, which 8, which* 1, who 5, whom 3, women 1
https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/hem-2.html
If the marginal note of the KJB is to be a Hebrew word Hem (him), the usage will still be dependent on its immediate context. While it could be used to persons (people) it also could be used to” things.”
GNB has its footnote referring to a person, though it has no notes on Psalms 12:6
That is, yours though was only one man.
While the KJB has its marginal note of literal Hebrew him (hem) that is every one of them, and them is in the discussion whether this refers to his own possession - “his people” or “his words”.
The entire context favors “his words” rather than “his people”. Aside from the vv. 2,3,4 connected to “words”, the oppression and the sighing and the puffing are all correlated to our mouth the “words” that came out of these vile persons as the context fits. Again, the usage of “them” is found in the immediate context of the things mentioned earlier.
Them
Them is used to refer to the object of a clause. In other words, it usually represents the group of people or things that have ‘experienced’ the action described by the verb, and refers back to two or more people or things that were mentioned earlier:
https://www.onestopenglish.com/ask-the-experts/grammar-them-and-they/146352.article
Strong's Number: 1992
Original Word
Word Origin
~h
from (01981)
Transliterated Word
TDNT Entry
Hem
TWOT - 504
Phonetic Spelling
Parts of Speech
haym
Masculine
Definition
- they, these, the same, who
NAS Word Usage - Total: 135
both 1, both* 1, ones 1, others 1, part 1, places 1, same 1, side 1, such 1, theirs 8, theirs* 3, themselves 9, there 5, these 13, things 1, this 2, those 65, very 1, where 1, which 8, which* 1, who 5, whom 3, women 1
https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/nas/hem-2.html
If the marginal note of the KJB is to be a Hebrew word Hem (him), the usage will still be dependent on its immediate context. While it could be used to persons (people) it also could be used to” things.”
GNB has its footnote referring to a person, though it has no notes on Psalms 12:6
That is, yours though was only one man.
While the KJB has its marginal note of literal Hebrew him (hem) that is every one of them, and them is in the discussion whether this refers to his own possession - “his people” or “his words”.
The entire context favors “his words” rather than “his people”. Aside from the vv. 2,3,4 connected to “words”, the oppression and the sighing and the puffing are all correlated to our mouth the “words” that came out of these vile persons as the context fits. Again, the usage of “them” is found in the immediate context of the things mentioned earlier.
Them
Them is used to refer to the object of a clause. In other words, it usually represents the group of people or things that have ‘experienced’ the action described by the verb, and refers back to two or more people or things that were mentioned earlier:
https://www.onestopenglish.com/ask-the-experts/grammar-them-and-they/146352.article
So then, we have God preserving words from an evil generation.
It still says nothing in favour of the KJV.
It still says nothing in favour of the KJV.
KJB
And Jesus, moved with compassion, put forth his hand, and touched him, and saith unto him, I will; be thou clean.
New International Version
Jesus was indignant. He reached out his hand and touched the man. “I am willing,” he said. “Be clean!”
