Predestination is misunderstood...

[Thunderrr-mental]

Its like Muslims who see all non Muslims as infidels..
Satan repackages his religion in many flavors and colors...

It a code.they live by that some have perfected to an art.

For instance they respond by showing scripture that is there for the depraved.

so in there eyes they can post it over and over,

A dangerous game to play but they play it.

The other part of what you said where there suffering with depravity, comes with that, but it is a transgression of there sin, which is only posting scripture centred around depraving



Like this comment I am amazed by your stubbornness.

Who gets amazed by stubbornness.

 

[Genez]

Theres another understanding of one part of the body suffers the whole body suffers.

Which means if one Christian suffers the whole body of believers should suffer with them

With them...

But, not because of them.



Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time.
After that, have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that
such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned."


Titus 3:10-11

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

With them...

But, not because of them.



Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time.
After that, have nothing to do with them. You may be sure that
such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned."


Titus 3:10-11

with them yes 🙂

Of course I'm talking about brother's here you are to suffer with them I'm not talking about depravers of the word

For instance if a brother is to bare false witness against you, you are not to cast him away but purge the evil from him.

Which means your not to deprave him 🙂

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Purge, remove

 

[Genez]

Yep, it's called the 2-lips degree.
From Calvin's lips to theirs.

It was not from Calvin's lips.
Calvin never devised what we now know as TULIP.

It was years after Calvin's death when some of his disciples organized to give us TULIP.
Some of his ideas were used, but what we get appears was according to some of their own thinking.

The TULIP of Calvinism



grace and peace ....................

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

@Genez so what I'm saying is to keep showing them there sin in every post the Calvinists here make here to you

What im saying is to say this to them in every post they make to you.


your only showing scripture that's depraves brothers that is the sin

By doing so you remove there evil. 🙂

Basically brother are not to deprave brothers.

In every post they make it's a centred around depraving.

So in every post show what there doing.

Because there going to keep doing what they do which is posting scripture centred around depraving you.

 

[Genez]

@Genez so what I'm saying is to keep showing them there sin in every post the Calvinists here make here to you

What im saying is to say this to them in every post they make to you.


your only showing scripture that's depraves brothers that is the sin

By doing so you remove there evil. 🙂

Basically brother are not to deprave brothers.

In every post they make it's a centred around depraving.

So in every post show what there doing.

Because there going to keep doing what they do which is posting scripture centred around depraving you.

OK..... I see you have a communication problem. English is not your first language....

Basically brother are not to deprave brothers.

You can not deprave someone.

Being depraved is something someone already is being...

what are you talking about??????????

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

OK..... I see you have a communication problem. English is not your first language....




You can not deprave someone.

Being depraved is something someone already is being...

what are you talking about??????????

ok carry on not correcting a brother then seems your depraved to

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Language deprave


Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more

verb

1. make (someone) immoral or wicked.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

The code test someone to see if you will deprave someone to see if your wicked

Keep showing someone scripture about depravity.

And if you deprave someone you are wicked

Which means your not a Calvinist

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Total depravity

No God did not make someone wicked

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

Sin

Wrong to test a brother to see if he is capable of making someone depraved or immoral or wicked bad

A brother is capable of baring false witness.

 

[Dino246]

A brother is capable of baring false witness.

The word is “bearing”.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

The word is “bearing”.

deprave. make somone immoral wicked bad

Sin

Your sin

Wicked

 

[sawdust]

One must be saved before they can believe

Scripture says "believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved". Belief precedes salvation so no, one must believe to be saved as God has determined to save believers only.

Why would God lie ad say He chose us before He created the worl

God did not choose us to believe. That is your error. Nowhere in scripture will you find He chose us to believe. He chose us to be adopted, He chose us to be like His Son but He did not choose who would and wouldn't believe.

 

[sawdust]

You can't have it both ways, you either accept what God said or you deny it. The choice is yours

ROFL

How can it be when it all depends on God's choice according to the Calvinist.

 

[sawdust]

Men by nature are unwilling and at enmity against God, will not submit to God. So if a person becomes willing, then thats indicative God has changed them, saved them and given them a new heart. Duh

It isn't that they won't submit, it is they can't submit because without the new birth they are controlled by the flesh and it is the flesh that is hostile to God. It would be impossible of Paul to speak of serving the Law with his mind and willing the good if what you say were true.

Romans 7:18
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.

So no, men by nature (ie their human nature) are not hostile to God. It is the sin nature that is hostile to God that indwells the body. Learn the facts.

 

[Thunderrr-mental]

transgression
noun
trans·gres·sion tran(t)s-ˈgre-shən
tranz-

Synonyms of transgression
: an act, process, or instance of transgressing: such as
a
: infringement or violation of a law, command, or duty


Deprave transgression

Violation make some one immoral bad wicked

Sin

Wicked

 

[Genez]

And He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’
but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’ ” Matthew 21:13
​

So..

Jesus called the Temple 'a den of thieves.'


And, this place?

It has become a nut house!

For no one here who wants to can learn anything...

Some come here to jam up the dialogue, specifically so no one can be edified.



....... Now... watch some nut house member jump on that one!

Its pitiful when a forum that is designed for edifying Christians gets poisoned.
Its become a cyber haven for people we would avoid and stay away from in real life...


Might as well say it.
Unless this place cleans up the cosmic influenced Christians its beginning to make no difference if we come here or not...

Why even come here if they establish themselves, and gain a stronghold?
Refuting them makes no difference.
For they have too much scar tissue on their soul from rejecting truth to feel anything...

Proverbs 12:8​

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A man is commended according to his good sense,​

but one of twisted mind is despised.​

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Then they demand that we are to love one another?
That is adding insult to injury.


.....................

 

[brightfame52]

It isn't that they won't submit, it is they can't submit because without the new birth they are controlled by the flesh and it is the flesh that is hostile to God. It would be impossible of Paul to speak of serving the Law with his mind and willing the good if what you say were true.

Romans 7:18
For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out.

So no, men by nature (ie their human nature) are not hostile to God. It is the sin nature that is hostile to God that indwells the body. Learn the facts.

Men by nature are unwilling and at enmity against God, will not and cant submit to God. So if a person becomes willing, then thats indicative God has changed them, saved them and given them a new heart. Duh