Once saved always saved (OSAS) debunked

[HeIsHere]

God will let you know what you have failed to do come judgement day.

Christians don't have a judgement day, we are saved.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Can you please tell us what works prove you are saved, and also the number of them to meet that proof.

No. If you don't know by now I can't explain it to you. Read your Bible.

 

[RaceRunner]

Christians don't have a judgement day, we are saved.

For we must all be manifested before the judgment seat of Christ, that every one may receive the proper things of the body, according as he hath done, whether it be good or evil.

 

[dlw]

Love is the way. The Lord gave us two commandments

 

[PennEd]

No. If you don't know by now I can't explain it to you. Read your Bible.

I mean I get it.


The question exposes the absurdity of your position. So you came up with the best response you could under those circumstances.

You can neither define the necessary work, nor how many times you must do it to prove your Salvation.

 

[ResidentAlien]

I mean I get it.


The question exposes the absurdity of your position. So you came up with the best response you could under those circumstances.

You can neither define the necessary work, nor how many times you must do it to prove your Salvation.

You're looking for a problem where none exists. I'm not not going to get entangled in a pointless exchange on this otherwise lovely day. Later.

 

[BreatheFocusBet]

Of course

And worthless faith cannot save in any way, lest it have some worth, no?

 

[RaceRunner]

I mean I get it.


The question exposes the absurdity of your position. So you came up with the best response you could under those circumstances.

You can neither define the necessary work, nor how many times you must do it to prove your Salvation.

God will let you know what you have failed to do come judgement day.

 

[PennEd]

You're looking for a problem where none exists. I'm not not going to get entangled in a pointless exchange on this otherwise lovely day. Later.

I don’t blame you. If I had a defenseless position I’d say the same.

Have a truly blessed day!

 

[Plowman]

But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are useless and worthless.

For the wisdom of this world is foolishness to God. As the Scriptures say, 'He traps the wise in the snare of their own cleverness

He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead

Brothers and sisters, this discussion is pointless. For he who is wise in his own eyes is deaf to the Spirit.

 

[oyster67]

Let's all just encourage one another to walk in the Light.

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

But remember what Jesus said: If you love me, keep my commandments

So believing Christ died for us means nothing if we don't prove we actually love Him.

ALL of them, OR: only the ones you "pick and choose" to obey???

How much proof is required? Where is the Metric in Scripture?

Great questions! Interesting is it not, that those who Constantly
badger us "osassers" (who have God's ETERNAL Life, Believing
"Christ DIED [And Rose] For us!"), keep condemning us if we:

DON'T prove by "keeping commandments." Wait! Do they do so?:

Claiming Mat 28:19-20 is their so-called 'great commission,' do they,
in Biblical Fact, 'prove' themSELVES' by obeying Christ's Command:

"...OBSERVE ALL That I Have Commanded..."?​

Since they refuse to answer our questions, I guess we will
have to do it for them, eh?:

Under The Covenants, In God's Prophetic program?:

1) Sell everything and follow Jesus (Mat 19:21; Mrk 10:21;
Luk 12:33)? A few communal groups have tried honestly
to obey this, Correct? How did it work out for them?

2) Observe All that those who "sit in Moses seat" tell you?
(Mat 25:1-3) Law keepers are honest, trying to obey, Correct?

3) Heal the sick, raise the dead, "freely you have Been Given,
so freely give," (Mat 10:8), speak in tongues, performing the
"SIGNS that shall follow those that believe (PROOF! Correct?),
And are baptized" (Mrk 16:16-18)? Charismatics, at the very
least, are honest, trying "to obey" Correct?

4) "Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto
them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained."
(John 20:23)? Romanists are honest, trying to obey this?
Protesters are flabbergasted, not knowing what to do
with this Scripture? Correct?
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So much for "proving their love" by Disobedience, Correct?
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God's 'Rightly Divided' Dispensational Way is the only
Bible Answer that I have found - ie:

Prophecy/Covenants TO Israel

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

Grace/Mystery (Rom - Phm) TO The Body Of Christ, Today
with our 'Greater GRACE Commission!" (2Co 5:18-20)!:

1) believe and receive ETERNAL Life (Relationship) with God

2) Have fellowship With Christ Living In us, To Fulfil:

All Of His Law, In "One Word: Love thy neighbor as thyself!"
(Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)

Amen?:

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II).

Will the 'osas' badgers even look at, and/or take time for?:

Grace, Peace, And JOY In The Saviour And HIS FinishED WORK?!...

 

[oyster67]

John 15:6
“If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.”

 

[Nehemiah6]

You can neither define the necessary work, nor how many times you must do it to prove your Salvation.

If you count enough rosary beads, it might be just enough. BTW it is significant that both Muslims, Buddhists, and Catholics count rosary beads or their equivalent.

 

[oyster67]

If you count enough rosary beads, it might be just enough. BTW it is significant that both Muslims, Buddhists, and Catholics count rosary beads or their equivalent.

Amen. We come by faith, and we are kept by faith.

Galatians 3:11
“But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.”

 

[Blade]

No. If you don't know by now I can't explain it to you. Read your Bible.

Sorry but.. did not you start this thread?

John 15:6
“If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.”

Hey oyster67 in real life when a branch is not producing fruit they will lift it up (airo is better translated "lifts up" ) so it gets light and can then produce fruit. Its one of those things where that word "also means".

So me I am never in fear that He will brake me off and cast into the fire. That cannot never happen. He never talked like that to the 12

 

[ResidentAlien]

Sorry but.. did not you start this thread?

And . . . your point is?

 

[ResidentAlien]

Apparently, only eternal security folks can do good works. I'm not saying anything they haven't said a million times: that is, works are evidence of faith. But now I'm attacked for saying exactly the same things they've said over and over. Some people on here have nothing better to do than debate, and when there's no debate to be had they manufacture one.

Get a life.

 

[oyster67]

Hey oyster67 in real life when a branch is not producing fruit they will lift it up

Hey Blade, in John 15:6 when a branch is not producing fruit Jesus will cast it into the fire and burn it. Doesn't sound like much of an uplift to me.

Choose your source of Truth.

John 15:6
“If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.”

 

[cv5]

Sorry but.. did not you start this thread?



Hey oyster67 in real life when a branch is not producing fruit they will lift it up (airo is better translated "lifts up" ) so it gets light and can then produce fruit.

From what I understand, what actually happens is that when the branch DOES produce fruit, the husbandman lifts it up upon a rock from the dirt and washes it.

Yet another beautiful picture of the work of Christ in our lives.