Not By Works

[walknlight]

So if 100% God, who cannot sin, came into a man body, he can now sin, does he still remain 100% God while in the body?

Phil 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Phil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Phil 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Phil 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

God Bless!

 

[Guojing]

Phil 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Phil 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Phil 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Phil 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

God Bless!

A direct answer would be best. People often quote scripture here without making their point.

 

[Guojing]

It is not about what I believe...it is about what factually happened...

God Told BOTH OF THEM NOT TO EAT from that TREE.

Eve was deceived
Adam ate of his own free will

Are you seriously that obstinate to argue or say or imply Adam did not sin wilfully?

My original point to you was that Adam was not equivalent with Jesus.

So yes, he could choose to sin, but not Jesus

 

[stonesoffire]

There was no sin in Jesus...he was God...

Is JR. There is no sin in Jesus. He lives! 💖💞❤️

 

[dcontroversal]

My original point to you was that Adam was not equivalent with Jesus.

So yes, he could choose to sin, but not Jesus

And again you would be wrong....

1st Adam created sinless but with choice and sinned

2nd Adam came in likness of SINFUL FLESH, was SINLESS but with CHOICE and DID NO SIN

I am done arguing the obvious...many of us have given you truth and you constantly refuse to humble yourself, accept that your view is erroneous and embrace the truth!

Shakes head and the obstinance of some people!

 

[Guojing]

And again you would be wrong....

1st Adam created sinless but with choice and sinned

2nd Adam came in likness of SINFUL FLESH, was SINLESS but with CHOICE and DID NO SIN

I am done arguing the obvious...many of us have given you truth and you constantly refuse to humble yourself, accept that your view is erroneous and embrace the truth!

Shakes head and the obstinance of some people!

People never tell you before that life is not black and white?

When you disagree with others, it does not entitle you to call them names. Just disagree politely and move on.

 

[dcontroversal]

People never tell you before that life is not black and white?

When you disagree with others, it does not entitle you to call them names. Just disagree politely and move on.

I stand by what I said and I DID NOT call you names.....and my post was valid!

 

[stonesoffire]

Yes, but he did not have the sin nature that all of us inherited from Adam, as in Romans 5:12

It is that sin nature that makes temptation works against us. So if Jesus had that same sin nature, i.e, if he could have chose to sin, he would not have been qualified to be the perfect sacrifice on the cross.

At the cross, he took our sin nature, and gave us his divine nature. (Romans 5:12-19).

When we believe in what he done on the cross, in our spirit, we are now just like Christ was during his earthly ministry. Our body still has that sin nature though.

When we finally receive our redeemed body at the rapture, as Christ had after he resurrected, we will no longer have that sin nature even in that body. Thus it would also be impossible for us to sin.

I have agreement with this because I see that His blood is living yet before Father in heaven. No corruption in heaven. He poured His blood on the mercy seat before Father. I know I’m behind but this is important to know.

He had perfect DNA inherited from His Father- God. But this should be another thread. And this subject is deep.

I have too much on my plate now to be in control of a thread, which seems to be the way it is here on CC.

 

[walknlight]

A direct answer would be best.

Cant get much more direct than that...

People often quote scripture here without making their point.

As those who are His , Christians should.

It is all about Yahweh and His Christ...

God Bless

 

[dcontroversal]

I have agreement with this because I see that His blood is living yet before Father in heaven. No corruption in heaven. He poured His blood on the mercy seat before Father. I know I’m behind but this is important to know.

He had perfect DNA inherited from His Father- God. But this should be another thread. And this subject is deep.

I have too much on my plate now to be in control of a thread, which seems to be the way it is here on CC.

My bible says he came in the form of SINFUL FLESH....not perfect DNA inherited from his FATHER God....as a matter of fact my bible says God IS SPIRIT.....NOT FLESH!

 

[walknlight]

People never tell you before that life is not black and white?

Matt 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Life in a nutshell, seems pretty "black and white"....."cut and cry" etc

 

[stonesoffire]

Romans 7 is not a commentary by Paul on his inability to not sin.

Romans 7 is a detailed account describing the struggles of a man in the flesh. He starts out with saying (7:5) "when we were in the flesh..." And in Romans 8:9 he plainly says, But you are not in the flesh.

Romans 8 tells of the believer in the Spirit who does not face the struggles of the man in the flesh.

You, like so many Christians, grossly misinterpret Romans 7.

flesh is our human nature. We are in another nature, spiritual man/woman. But, too many aren’t taught these things of the Spirit.

 

[walknlight]

My bible says he came in the form of SINFUL FLESH....not perfect DNA inherited from his FATHER God....as a matter of fact my bible says God IS SPIRIT.....NOT FLESH!

Some just refuse to consider Scripture as a whole
to their folly.....

 

[stonesoffire]

My bible says he came in the form of SINFUL FLESH....not perfect DNA inherited from his FATHER God....as a matter of fact my bible says God IS SPIRIT.....NOT FLESH!

Again, Decon, flesh in most instances of the NT means our human nature. Jesus- God in man.

 

[Guojing]

Matt 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Life in a nutshell, seems pretty "black and white"....."cut and cry" etc

Jesus is omniscient, are we as well?

 

[stonesoffire]

There’s always a transference at the Cross. We receive what Jesus carried and He carried what we were to death.

We are raised in resurrection life. With Him. And all creation waits for us to be manifested as Sons.

 

[Guojing]

Again, Decon, flesh in most instances of the NT means our human nature. Jesus- God in man.

Well said, likeness of sinful flesh does not mean sinful flesh.

God told Moses to make a bronze serpent, but not a real serpent, to depict Christ on the cross, for the same reason.

 

[dcontroversal]

Again, Decon, flesh in most instances of the NT means our human nature. Jesus- God in man.

Jesus EMPTIED himself of the GLORY he had with the Father and came in the form of SINFUL FLESH and I disagree, this truth is not to be spiritualized away which devalues what Christ actually accomplished on our behalf....

end of story

 

[EleventhHour]

Some just refuse to consider Scripture as a whole
to their folly.....

So, so true seeing the big picture is essential!

Truly missing the forest for the trees!!!

 

[stonesoffire]

Well said, likeness of sinful flesh does not mean sinful flesh.

God told Moses to make a bronze serpent, but not a real serpent, to depict Christ on the cross, for the same reason.

And bronze means judgement. Satan judged/ we are released.