Not By Works

[cv5]

Judge not lest you be judged. Jesus

Tricky verses very tricky. Be careful.
Those verses are meant as a teaching against malicious spiteful maligning peevish hypocritical judgmental attitudes and acts that have no merit. Righteous judgments however are altogether in a different class.

And as we see few verses later....ouch! A call to righteous judgment and discernment!

Matt 7:6
“Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces.

For the heretics Matt 7:1 is one of the most often twisted af all Scriptures.

 

[cv5]

faith with out works is dead...biblical..so why does a born again disagree with that.
I’m not calling out the person who disagreed....just don’t understand it...their disagreement?

We don't disagree with it. We just want to make sure that people don't twist it into something that it doesn't say.

 

[jackrosie]

We don't disagree with it. We just want to make sure that people don't twist it into something that it doesn't say.

And what is that.....what does it Say?....pretty self explanatory to me...what’s your definition of twisting it?..and whose we?

 

[EleventhHour]

Disagree..some can be blinded from the truth...and like you say ..you have...” learned” it over the years.

I thought we were on fresh start?

Yes some are blinded did I say otherwise.. no

 

[jackrosie]

I thought we were on fresh start?

Yes some are blinded did I say otherwise.. no

We are..so why can’t I ask or challenge?...I wasn’t being rude...now whose being defensive?..I took a lot to heart on what was said to me on this thread...my feelings got in the way...are you with me?
It’s not about feelings..it’s about God’s truth.

 

[EleventhHour]

We are..so why can’t I ask or challenge?...I wasn’t being rude...now whose being defensive?

I am not being defensive, I am baffled.
Disagree all you want

 

[jackrosie]

I am not being defensive, I am baffled.
Disagree all you want

Don’t do what I did eleventhhour.....feelings get in the way of God’s truth sometimes...in fact quite a lot with me lately....,I am not against you.....it’s not about our feelings it’s about God’s truth.

Surely we are all learning..not just me.

 

[Duskey]

Amen!!

Someone who does not love the truth, cannot love the Source of truth.

God is the God of truth. Truth is freedom.. I have learned this so well over the years.

“The truth of the LORD endures for ever!” (Psalm 117:2). “Into Your hand I commit my spirit; You have redeemed me, O LORD God of truth” (Psalm 31:5). How can someone who does not like the truth, love the God of truth?

I’m perplexed as to why your post was given a red X. And yet I’m not surprised. That’s one heck of an oxymoron.

 

[cv5]

And what is that.....what does it Say?....pretty self explanatory to me...what’s your definition of twisting it?..and whose we?

Sorry. You're gonna have to work that out for yourself.

 

[jackrosie]

I’m perplexed as to why your post was given a red X. And yet I’m not surprised. That’s one heck of an oxymoron.

I gave it a disagree..because not all can see the truth...I’m sorry if it upsets....but my words and belief can’t be controlled like a robot.

And why aren’t you surprised...please enlighten me?

What is the big deal with these red Xs?.........you are gonna get a red x at times..accept it....I do.

 

[jackrosie]

Sorry. You're gonna have to work that out for yourself.

Yes,indeed...I already have.....post 141,390

 

[Duskey]

I gave it a disagree..because not all can see the truth...I’m sorry if it upsets....but my words and belief can’t be controlled like a robot.

And why aren’t you surprised...please enlighten me?

Eleven did not say that everyone can see the truth. Her focus was loving the truth and the source of truth, then she shared supportive Scripture. I fail to see what there is to disagree with but I am open to your perspective.

 

[jackrosie]

My post above is directed at Dusky.post 141,390.

 

[jackrosie]

Yes,indeed...I already have.....post 141,390

Sorry,quoted wrong post.as in post number.

 

[cv5]

Yes,indeed...I already have.....

I hope you are very careful and circumspect, and you do not mishandle these verses the way that DB did with her quicky comeback Matthew 7:1 quote.

 

[jackrosie]

I hope you are very careful and circumspect, and you do not mishandle these verses the way that DB did with her quicky comeback Matthew 7:1 quote.

Excuse me?...the way that DB did...?

 

[dcontroversal]

And what is that.....what does it Say?....pretty self explanatory to me...what’s your definition of twisting it?..and whose we?

Many working for self salvationists use it to promote a faith plus works to gain, keep or top off salvation

 

[jackrosie]

Many working for self salvationists use it to promote a faith plus works to gain, keep or top off salvation

My belief,works follow after salvation...not before..you can’t work for your salvation...if people believe that...then they are still in darkness.....or am I judging when I say that?....that they are in darkness.....or are they confused?

 

[jackrosie]

I hope you are very careful and circumspect, and you do not mishandle these verses the way that DB did with her quicky comeback Matthew 7:1 quote.

Don’t judge or you will be judged..that was the scripture I got for Mathew 7:1....now I’m completely lost...what has that scripture got to do with faith without works is dead?

 

[cv5]

Excuse me?...the way that DB did...?

Sorry....DM