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EleventhHour

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gb9 said:
holy means set apart, different, other. so holy means do not act like non-believers .

and John also said that if anyone sins, we have an advocate in Jesus.

sin does not mean loss of salvation, as all of Paul's , Johns, Peter's letters were written to believers .

believe in Jesus= saved. non- belief= not saved.

not behavior-= saved or not.

lordship salvation ( your lie that you push) says proper belief=salvation, improper belief=not saved.

lie.
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Lordship salvation is basically that a believer will be growing in righteousness consistently or they are not saved.
One looks to oneself for evidence of salvation.
Also to be saved one must turn from and stop spinning.
Is is basically an extension of Calvin's ideas.
 
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EleventhHour

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EleventhHour said:
Lordship salvation is basically that a believer will be growing in righteousness consistently or they are not saved.
One looks to oneself for evidence of salvation.
Also to be saved one must turn from and stop spinning.
Is is basically an extension of Calvin's ideas.
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:D

"Sinning" not spinning

Spinning only makes you dizzy unless you know to spot like a dancer then you will be fine.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Lordship salvation is basically that a believer will be growing in righteousness consistently or they are not saved.
One looks to oneself for evidence of salvation.
Also to be saved one must turn from and stop spinning.
Is is basically an extension of Calvin's ideas.
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Some people keep spinning in legalism and can’t stop!
 
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EleventhHour

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LOL, don't you just HATE that 5 minute EDIT rule.
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Yeah the perfectionist me hates it....but it can be quite comical and I am certainly able to laugh at myself ...force of necessity I think since .... I do have a knack for getting myself into comical situations.
 
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EleventhHour said:
:D

"Sinning" not spinning

Spinning only makes you dizzy unless you know to spot like a dancer then you will be fine.
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Boy, that brings back memories.... Not the spotting though. I never actually formally learned to dance.... Any kind of dance. Little circles every now and then....
 
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EleventhHour

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Tellion said:
Boy, that brings back memories.... Not the spotting though. I never actually formally learned to dance.... Any kind of dance. Little circles every now and then....
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Learning to spot is essential for spinning unless wants to throw up.on stage ....:)

I learned more classical dance...not so impressed with the messy, not much finesse movements of hip hop now a days.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Learning to spot is essential for spinning unless wants to throw up.on stage ....:)

I learned more classical dance...not so impressed with the messy, not much finesse movements of hip hop now a days.
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I enjoy the classical far more that's for certain. I have a certain fondness for tap dancing, however. I'm not certain if that is to my shame or not.
 
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EleventhHour

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Tellion said:
I enjoy the classical far more that's for certain. I have a certain fondness for tap dancing, however. I'm not certain if that is to my shame or not.
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Tap dancing now there is a skill.

And we have on few on this thread tap dancing around and avoiding truth at all costs.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Tap dancing now there is a skill.

And we have on few on this thread tap dancing around and avoiding truth at all costs.
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Yeah. I don't have the time to argue, and the guard rails around my pride don't hold up to a lot of stress. So I bow out early when I detect a conversation going in circles.
 
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Tellion said:
Yeah. I don't have the time to argue, and the guard rails around my pride don't hold up to a lot of stress. So I bow out early when I detect a conversation going in circles.
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Amendment: I don't have a whole lot of time to argue....
 
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EleventhHour

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Tellion said:
I enjoy the classical far more that's for certain. I have a certain fondness for tap dancing, however. I'm not certain if that is to my shame or not.
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Thinking back now hip hop has actually been around a long time too... didn't really like it back then either.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Thinking back now hip hop has actually been around a long time too... didn't really like it back then either.
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I honestly can't speak to that. I never got into the whole music video scene, and didn't really follow a hip hop crowd. Break dancing was a serious thing in high school, and I appreciated the specific challenge of its form, but as a kind of dancing I never really felt like it blended with the music.
 
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Tellion said:
I honestly can't speak to that. I never got into the whole music video scene, and didn't really follow a hip hop crowd. Break dancing was a serious thing in high school, and I appreciated the specific challenge of its form, but as a kind of dancing I never really felt like it blended with the music.
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So How are you obedient to these VERSES:

Ephesians 5:17-21 (NIV)
17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is.
18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.
19 Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord,
20 always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.


Before I was Born Again, I used to say that there are only two kinds of music: COUNTRY and WESTERN.

Since I have been Born Again, I recognize that their are only Two Kinds of Music: CHRISTIAN and Non-Christian.


See if this music, by a Gospel Singer from Kenya, touches your Heart (Human Spirit):




 
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So How are you obedient to these VERSES:

Ephesians 5:17-21 (NIV)
17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is.
18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.
19 Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord,
20 always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.


Before I was Born Again, I used to say that there are only two kinds of music: COUNTRY and WESTERN.

Since I have been Born Again, I recognize that their are only Two Kinds of Music: CHRISTIAN and Non-Christian.


See if this music, by a Gospel Singer from Kenya, touches your Heart (Human Spirit):




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Please, go pick a fight with somebody else.
 
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EleventhHour

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VCO said:
So How are you obedient to these VERSES:

Ephesians 5:17-21 (NIV)
17 Therefore do not be foolish, but understand what the Lord's will is.
18 Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.
19 Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs. Sing and make music in your heart to the Lord,
20 always giving thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
21 Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.


Before I was Born Again, I used to say that there are only two kinds of music: COUNTRY and WESTERN.

Since I have been Born Again, I recognize that their are only Two Kinds of Music: CHRISTIAN and Non-Christian.


See if this music, by a Gospel Singer from Kenya, touches your Heart (Human Spirit):




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My own view is that there are many types of music that can touch one's heart.
 
VCO

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Tellion said:
Please, go pick a fight with somebody else.
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The was not intended to EVEN come closed to being a fight.

I asked a perfectly reasonable question, and then provided you two songs by my Favorite Gospel Singer.

Where did you get the idea that I was picking a fight ? ? ?
 
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