Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

So that means you can do whatever you like?

Same crap the salvation losers and workers for accused PAUL of.....you have nothing to offer the ongoing conversation pal............

 

[OneOfHis]

You are suggesting that children of God never sin?



You have sinned brother, as have I... we need God equally and Jesus extended sin to the heart... not just actions

this is poor wording

what i meant by these words
is Jesus taught we can sin before God with our hearts or inner man regardless of what our actions show

 

[dcontroversal]

How many times has @dcontroversal explained this!!!

100 plus 1........They cannot grasp the truth that ALL sin has been dealt with at the cross, NOW as children we get our rear end smoked if we SIN, but it does NOT cause the loss of our standing in CHRIST and it in NO way shape or form indicates that we say or choose to live like hell because OUR sin is covered...PAUL covers this and he was accused of the same drivel and blather.....

 

[dcontroversal]

That is why it is important for us to have our lights trimmed and burning when He returns.

Matthew 25
25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
25:2 And five of them were wise, and five [were] foolish.
25:3 They that [were] foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
25:9 But the wise answered, saying, [Not so]; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

YEP.....the context is the KINGDOM of Heaven....NOT salvation

 

[Discern]

And as I have pointed out, and creation testifies.......fruit comes in varying sizes, shapes, amount and takes growth and maturity to produce....EVEN an apple tree is an apple tree some 2 to 3 years before it bears even ONE apple....OAKS take 20 to 25 years to bear...SOME people may be saved their whole LIFE and only produce 1 piece of fruit or they may be saved but one year and produce an abundance...............as branches WE BUT BEAR what CHRIST produces............HE gets all the glory....we get NONE

Yes, one size does not fit all. That includes both statements about what we can and cannot do at certain junctures

 

[dcontroversal]

That's why you need to stay in Christ.

MY JESUS keeps me BY his power through the FAITH HE starts, finishes and COMPLETES.....too bad your JEEZUS does NOT finish and complete your FAITH.......You can forget it pal.......what YOU peddle makes JESUS and PAUL into liars......

 

[VCO]

So what’s the answer to the question. One of his gave an answer and I did not debate him. What do you say

I could not figure out the question, so I had to go back are read your previous posts.

Seems you wanted to know if a person living in adultery, can be a real Christian?

If it convicts you in the heart, YES, but it short changes you from receiving Blessings from the Holy Spirit.

So if I were you, I would ask your significant other, to MARRY YOU. Yes, been there and done that, so HE could not Bless Us until we were Married. By the way, we were Married for 36.5 years, so HE BLESSED us a lot. I cannot think of a single blessing from God that first year.

 

[OneOfHis]

I could not figure out the question, so I had to go back are read your previous posts.

Seem you wanted to know if a person living in adultery, can be a real Christian?

If it convicts you in the heart, YES, but it short changes you from receiving Blessings from the Holy Spirit.

So if I were you, I would ask you significant other, to MARRY YOU. Yes, been there and done that, So HE could not Bless Us until we were Married. By the way, we were Married for 36.5 years, so HE BLESSED us a lot. I cannot think of a single blessing from God that first year.

see we agree

i removed my red x when you said thats not what Jesus taught


i think we just misunderstood eachother

 

[EleventhHour]

MY JESUS keeps me BY his power through the FAITH HE starts, finishes and COMPLETES.....too bad your JEEZUS does NOT finish and complete your FAITH.......You can forget it pal.......what YOU peddle makes JESUS and PAUL into liars......

When people make comments like "stay in Christ" i just think do they really understand
"Justified"

 

[dcontroversal]

Some people are hard of hearing

they keep being told 2+2=4. Yet they keep insisting we say 2+2=5, then get mad when we correct them and tell them no, we have said all along it is 4.

AMEN to that.............

Bible's math--> JESUS plus faith = eternal salvation/life given irrevocably

Cainologist's math -->JESUS plus religious hoop jumping MIGHT get eternal salvation if you do x, y, and z while not doing a, b and c

 

[dcontroversal]

God gives us much more than that

yet He also showed us we can not obey them all perfectly, and we will never live up to his standard. That’s WHY he came to earth,

you need to study the law more. It seems to have not yet brought you to Christ.

MANY like judges, ps and a MANY others will say in that day...LORD LORD have we not done blah, blah, blah in your name...........they cannot grasp that they do indeed peddle the same dogma that JESUS addresses in this particular discourse.....WE 100% point fully to JESUS....they point to JESUS plus themselves........that is a NO, NO

 

[dcontroversal]

When people make comments like "stay in Christ" i just think do they really understand
"Justified"

100% agree and they cannot grasp OUR lives being HID within the life of CHRIST.......we are HIDDEN IN CHRIST...when GOD looks at US he sees the RIGHTEOUSNESS of HIS SON and exactly why our position is SECURE in CHRIST......

 

[dcontroversal]

You sir, are hard of hearing

AMEN.........

 

[dcontroversal]

You do not see much grace in scripture period.

HAHAHAHAHHAHA so true.......

 

[dcontroversal]

Morning all...

John 6:47
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.
...\/...

AMEN ROSE..........everlasting NOT temporal...........keep swinging sister...the enemies of Christ are rank and file deep

 

[dcontroversal]

Lol

you did not correct her my friend, she said good morning and posted an amazing verse

you have no gospel, the gospel literally means a declaration of good news of Jesus

there is no good news in your message, only a false hope and false security which is no security at all. It is all based on self and how good you are, and not how great and Good Jesus was.

I know, @Rosemaryx is one of the most genuine believers i have ever seen on this site and this stooge attacks her....this should show ALL how deceptive he is......

 

[dcontroversal]

God has put a new heart in me , a new spirit , He has circumcised my heart to worship Him forever and ever , even when I fail , He is mine and I am His...

Nothing can seperate me from His amazing love...

Thank God for His mercy and grace each morning , all fresh for a brand new day \/...

AMEN.........such a testimony.....your growth has been awesome to watch..........love your stance my sister across the pond

 

[dcontroversal]

It gives me no pleasure to see scriptures being dismissed as not relevant. I get the impression Jesus felt the same way I do. Nowhere are we told Jesus laughed.

He rejoiced in spirit, genius and was fully human.....to even think he never laughed contradicts his humanity........

 

[dcontroversal]

We are IN Christ and He is IN us.

How miserable that you make Jesus like an object we need to hold on to .... such a low low view of Him.

It would behove people to study the Greek word translated IN and then open their eyes.....

 

[oyster67]

Conditional security? I see...

So, is unconditional security Once Saved Always Saved?

Yes, OSAS, is also called Eternal Security and Calvinism. I think we all agree on these definitions.