Not By Works

[Lightskin]

The heresy that we are required to give a sandwich to a man that is begging for food? Hmmmm.

The heresy thinking what Jesus did was not good enough to save you.

 

[PennEd]

My ministry is based in Medellín, Colombia, in a poor neighborhood in the center of the city, and throughout the week I go out giving out peanut butter jelly sandwiches to the homeless. Now, what good works are you doing?

You mean if I make a bunch of PB&J sandwiches and give them to the poor I'm good to go?

Woo Hoo! Someone pass the Skippy!


Umm... What happens if I skip a day of being the lunch lady? Am I lost?

 

[gaviriachristian]

The following verses say otherwise:
John 3:16-17
Romans 10:9-10

If salvation were as easy as uttering a few words with your lips then how pitiful for the apostles to have suffered so much and been martyred when all they had to do was utter a few words with their lips. This is why many will call out, "lord, lord" on that frightful day, but they Messiah will respond with, "depart from me you workers of lawlessness", because they foolishly thought all they had to do was utter a few words with their lips. We are required to do the will of God. The will of God is for us to bear fruit. Any tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down.

 

[gaviriachristian]

The heresy thinking what Jesus did was not good enough to save you.

No no no, the heresy that you think the Messiah died so that you don't have to do good works.

 

[gaviriachristian]

You mean if I make a bunch of PB&J sandwiches and give them to the poor I'm good to go?

Woo Hoo! Someone pass the Skippy!


Umm... What happens if I skip a day of being the lunch lady? Am I lost?

Your sarcasm makes it obvious you don't think good works are required. Simmer on this, "any tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down".

 

[UnderGrace]

Your sarcasm makes it obvious you don't think good works are required. Simmer on this, "any tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down".

Sometimes, sarcasm is in order when one so denigrates Jesus the Christ as Lord and Saviour!!

 

[PennEd]

Sometimes, sarcasm is in order when one so denigrates Jesus the Christ as Lord and Saviour!!

Thank you. I was just going to tell him how actually outraged I am at his suggestion that him going out and feeding people PB&J sandwiches keeps him saved.

Listen buddy, usually new people are given a little slack. But you joined and right away trampled on the Blood of Christ with your sickening works doctrine.

Why don't you man up and be specific, and tell me how many works per day you have to do to keep yourself saved.

 

[dcontroversal]

You know I know that, brother. 😎

100% agree and know migo

 

[gaviriachristian]

Thank you. I was just going to tell him how actually outraged I am at his suggestion that him going out and feeding people PB&J sandwiches keeps him saved.

Listen buddy, usually new people are given a little slack. But you joined and right away trampled on the Blood of Christ with your sickening works doctrine.

Why don't you man up and be specific, and tell me how many works per day you have to do to keep yourself saved.

We are obligated to do good works whenever possible, which is why it is written, "whoever knows to do good and does not do it, it is sin unto him". This is why you cannot serve two masters, because serving God requires completely and daily attention, no different than a servant who serves his master daily in his house.

 

[dcontroversal]

My ministry is based in Medellín, Colombia, in a poor neighborhood in the center of the city, and throughout the week I go out giving out peanut butter jelly sandwiches to the homeless. Now, what good works are you doing?

Jesus was clear don't boast and do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.....the problem with a works based ideology.....seeking or getting glory from men....!

 

[gaviriachristian]

Jesus was clear don't boast and do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.....the problem with a works based ideology.....seeking or getting glory from men....!

I was asked what good works I do, so I said it, not to seek glory from you people, because I seek glory from God, but to lay an example for you people, to do good works, and to stop saying, "I am not obligated to do good works".

 

[Lightskin]

Woo Hoo! Someone pass the Skippy!

😆😆😆
I’m making a bumper sticker out of that and putting it on my Wrangler!

 

[dcontroversal]

What is truly sickening is that you think you have no obligation to give food to someone who is begging you for food. The Torah commands, "YOU SHALL open your hand wide to the poor". Doing good works is a command of the Law of God. Only the ignorant and the lazy use the favor of God as a justification to not do good works, unaware that favor is granted so that we can do good works, because good works are an obligation.

I do not know what is worse....your idiotic reply or the other clown that liked your off base judgmental post.....You neither know me or what I do in my life pal....get your head out of the sand, get some facts and then mouth.....you won't last long here pal!

 

[PennEd]

I was asked what good works I do, so I said it, not to seek glory from you people, because I seek glory from God, but to lay an example for you people, to do good works, and to stop saying, "I am not obligated to do good works".

4th time asked now. How many good works save you and keep you saved?

1 per day? 1 per week? What is the number?

 

[dcontroversal]

I was asked what good works I do, so I said it, not to seek glory from you people, because I seek glory from God, but to lay an example for you people, to do good works, and to stop saying, "I am not obligated to do good works".

You people sounds racist...take it up with Jesus...

To the one that WORKS NOT, but believes on him that was sent<--HIS FAITH IS CREDITED FOR
RIGHTEOUSNESS

 

[Lightskin]

Your sarcasm makes it obvious you don't think good works are required. Simmer on this, "any tree that does not bear good fruit will be cut down".

Your arrogance makes it obvious that you don’t think we who understand we are saved by grace through faith do good works. But I digress, you’re the PB&J superhero.

 

[JadenS]

Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.

 

[Lightskin]

If salvation were as easy as uttering a few words with your lips then how pitiful for the apostles to have suffered so much and been martyred when all they had to do was utter a few words with their lips.

What’s pitiful is you adding to Scripture. What’s also pitiful is your blindness thinking that we who understand we are saved by grace through faith don’t do any works. Pride comes before the fall. Beware.

 

[gaviriachristian]

I do not know what is worse....your idiotic reply or the other clown that liked your off base judgmental post.....You neither know me or what I do in my life pal....get your head out of the sand, get some facts and then mouth.....you won't last long here pal!

Anyone who denies the necessity to do good works is not doing good works. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

 

[gaviriachristian]

What’s pitiful is you adding to Scripture. What’s also pitiful is your blindness thinking that we who understand we are saved by grace through faith don’t do any works. Pride comes before the fall. Beware.

I am adding to scripture? Lets see what the scriptures say regarding the requirement to do good works.

If among you, one of your brothers should become poor, in any of your towns within your land that Yehovah your God is giving you, YOU SHALL not harden your heart or shut your hand against your poor brother, but you shall open your hand to him and lend him sufficient for his need, whatever it may be. Take care lest there be an unworthy thought in your heart and you say, ‘The seventh year, the year of release is near,’ and your eye look grudgingly on your poor brother, and you give him nothing, and he cry to Yehovah against you, and you become guilty of sin.
Deuteronomy 15:7-9

If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.
James 4:17

Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Matthew 7:19

You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.
John 15:16

And the Master replied, “A faithful, sensible manager is one to whom the master can give the responsibility of managing his other household servants and feeding them. If the master returns and finds that the servant has done a good job, there will be a reward. I tell you the truth, the master will put that servant in charge of all he owns.
Luke 12:42-44

so that you may live a life worthy of the Master and please him in every way: bearing fruit in every good work, growing in the knowledge of God,
Colossians 1:10

And God is able to make all favor abound to you, so that having all sufficiency in all things at all times, you may abound in every good work.
2 Corinthians 9:8

Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
2 Timothy 2:21

that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:17

Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.
James 3:13

who gave himself for us to purchase us from all torahlessness and to purify for himself a people for his own possession who are zealous for good works.
Titus 2:14

Do everything you can to help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way and see that they have everything they need. Our people must learn to devote themselves to doing what is good, in order to provide for urgent needs and not live unproductive lives.
Titus 3:13-14​

Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s favor in its various forms.
1 Peter 4:10​

Remind them to be submissive to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good work,
Titus 3:1​

remembering before our God and Father your work of belief and labor of love and steadfastness of hope in our Master Messiah Yeshuah.
1 Thessalonians 1:3​

So then, those who suffer according to God’s will should commit themselves to their faithful Creator and continue to do good.
1 Peter 4:19​

Also, the women are to dress themselves in modest clothing, with decency and good sense, not with elaborate hairstyles, gold, pearls, or expensive apparel, but with good works, as is proper for women who profess piety.
1 Timothy 2:9-10​

Therefore, my beloved brothers, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Master, knowing that in the Master your labor is not in vain.
1 Corinthians 15:58​

So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of belief.
Galatians 6:10​

Share with the set-apart ones who are in need…
Romans 12:13​

All they asked was that we should continue to remember the poor, the very thing I had been eager to do all along.
Galatians 2:10​

this is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the Most High, which has come upon my master the king: that you be driven away from mankind and your dwelling place be with the beasts of the field, and you be given grass to eat like cattle and be drenched with the dew of heaven; and seven periods of time will pass over you, until you recognize that the Most High is ruler over the realm of mankind and bestows it on whomever He wishes. And in that it was commanded to leave the stump with the roots of the tree, your kingdom will be assured to you after you recognize that it is Heaven that rules. Therefore, O king, may my advice be pleasing to you: break away now from your sins by doing righteousness and from your iniquities by showing mercy to the poor, in case there may be a prolonging of your prosperity.’
Daniel 4:24-27​

“Is not this the fast that I choose: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the straps of the yoke, to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to share your bread with the hungry and bring the homeless poor into your house; when you see the naked, to cover him, and not to hide yourself from your own flesh? Then shall your light break forth like the dawn, and your healing shall spring up speedily; your righteousness shall go before you; the glory of Yehovah shall be your rear guard. Then you shall call, and Yehovah will answer; you shall cry, and he will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you take away the yoke from your midst, the pointing of the finger, and speaking wickedness,
Isaiah 58:6-9​

Whoever closes his ear to the cry of the poor will himself call out and not be answered.
Proverbs 21:13​

Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due, when it is in your power to act. Do not say to your neighbor, “Come back tomorrow and I’ll give it to you”– when you already have it with you.
Proverbs 3:27-28​

Wash yourself, make yourself clean; put away the evil of your doings from before my eyes; cease to do evil. Learn to do good; seek judgment, rebuke the oppressor, defend the orphan, plead for the widow. Please come, and let us reason together, implores Yehovah. Even though your sins are like scarlet, they’ll be white like snow. Though they’re like crimson, they’ll become like wool.
Isaiah 1:16-18​

Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the belief and is worse than an unbeliever.
1 Timothy 5:8​

Anyone who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with their own hands, that they may have something to share with those in need.
Ephesians 4:28​

You yourselves know that these hands ministered to my necessities and to those who were with me. In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Master Yeshuah, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
Acts 20:34-35​

Produce fruit worthy of repentance.
Matthew 3:8​

but both first to those in Damascus and Jerusalem, and all the region of Judea, and to the Gentiles, I kept declaring to repent and to turn to God, doing works worthy of repentance.
Acts 26:20​

You see that a person is justified by works and not by belief alone.
James 2:24​

So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the Torah through the body of the Messiah, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.
Romans 7:4​

To those who by persistence in doing good seek glory, honor and immortality, he will give aeonial life.
Romans 2:7​

Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness.
Romans 6:13​

So also the belief, if it should not have works it is dead by itself.
James 2:17​

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