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We have love for sinners but sin destroys us.
We cannot compromise, because the source of sin is the cause of Gods judgement on
man. Once one compromises it is impossible to stop.
Safety is in Christ, walking and following Him. As soon as we are compromised and
dwell with denial of need of cleansing and understanding of our potential for sin in all
aspects, we easily go astray.
And love is not restricted to Gods elect.
Jesus prayed that for Peter not to lose faith.
31 "Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat.
32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers."
Luke 22
Peter was told he in effect would turn back to Christ. And what was essential was he
stayed believing Christ. Without faith, there would be no turning back and no
ministry following. This is all quite simple stuff. Why would anyone believe this is
not the essential principles of our walk in Christ.
Fruit is automatic.
It is like saying leaves on a living plant are not automatic. But the reality is without leaves
there is no life.
No faith, no life. No expressions of faith, no life. No fruit of the Spirit no life.
The problem is we are choosing an easy path or compromise and that is acceptable.
The world and its ways are lethal and God and His grace is salvation.
Listen to God when King Saul did not obey,
26 But Samuel said to him, "I will not go back with you. You have rejected the word
of the LORD, and the LORD has rejected you as king over Israel!"
1 Samuel 15
There is no compromise with God. Why did God, Jesus praise the pharisees while
criticising their hypocrisy and lack of a loving heart? It is this simple.
Now if unbelievers want to claim they truly are believers and have zero signs of this
that is truly their problem. God does not honour unbelievers.
God bless you
We cannot compromise, because the source of sin is the cause of Gods judgement on
man. Once one compromises it is impossible to stop.
Safety is in Christ, walking and following Him. As soon as we are compromised and
dwell with denial of need of cleansing and understanding of our potential for sin in all
aspects, we easily go astray.
And love is not restricted to Gods elect.
Jesus prayed that for Peter not to lose faith.
31 "Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift you as wheat.
32 But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers."
Luke 22
Peter was told he in effect would turn back to Christ. And what was essential was he
stayed believing Christ. Without faith, there would be no turning back and no
ministry following. This is all quite simple stuff. Why would anyone believe this is
not the essential principles of our walk in Christ.
Fruit is automatic.
It is like saying leaves on a living plant are not automatic. But the reality is without leaves
there is no life.
No faith, no life. No expressions of faith, no life. No fruit of the Spirit no life.
The problem is we are choosing an easy path or compromise and that is acceptable.
The world and its ways are lethal and God and His grace is salvation.
Listen to God when King Saul did not obey,
26 But Samuel said to him, "I will not go back with you. You have rejected the word
of the LORD, and the LORD has rejected you as king over Israel!"
1 Samuel 15
There is no compromise with God. Why did God, Jesus praise the pharisees while
criticising their hypocrisy and lack of a loving heart? It is this simple.
Now if unbelievers want to claim they truly are believers and have zero signs of this
that is truly their problem. God does not honour unbelievers.
God bless you
Every movement has converts. This is only proof people have agreement with their position.
The pharisees had converts but this did not make them closer to God or right.
The fruit God declares is real fruit from Him, is witnessing to Jesus and His salvation, and the fruit of
the Spirit, with a cleansed purified heart.
Boundaries. I saw today something that made everything so clear. Those who cannot tell where they
stop and others begin, cannot belong to any group or be open, because they are scared they become this
group and cannot withdraw easily. But if we define ourselves clearly, and know our potential for sin and
evil as well as blessing and praise, we can fully engage with people, because there is no fear of getting lost
or losing our boundaries, rather only blessing and growth in the Lord.
It is the most functional defined people who have clear boundaries and can give and receive openly, who
will understand this idea. It also explains why I used to fear engagement and desired true sharing, while
pushing it away. It means I have a path to help others to find freedom and the truth, and move into the
things of God and His heart in love for them. This for me is outstanding, Praise the Lord, thankyou Jesus.
The pharisees had converts but this did not make them closer to God or right.
The fruit God declares is real fruit from Him, is witnessing to Jesus and His salvation, and the fruit of
the Spirit, with a cleansed purified heart.
Boundaries. I saw today something that made everything so clear. Those who cannot tell where they
stop and others begin, cannot belong to any group or be open, because they are scared they become this
group and cannot withdraw easily. But if we define ourselves clearly, and know our potential for sin and
evil as well as blessing and praise, we can fully engage with people, because there is no fear of getting lost
or losing our boundaries, rather only blessing and growth in the Lord.
It is the most functional defined people who have clear boundaries and can give and receive openly, who
will understand this idea. It also explains why I used to fear engagement and desired true sharing, while
pushing it away. It means I have a path to help others to find freedom and the truth, and move into the
things of God and His heart in love for them. This for me is outstanding, Praise the Lord, thankyou Jesus.
There are preachers who preach changing your mind about God, but not true turning from
sin, sorrow, restitution and believing Christ washes us clean from confessed sin.
Now too many eternal security believers accuse me of sin they cannot describe, there is literally
only them taking the role of the false accuser of the brethren. As soon as they start this behaviour
they are standing in judgment of Gods redeemed people and make themselves His enemy.
So your point seems to be to be invalid.
Equally I have had too many interactions with people justifying their sin as inevitable that I know
they neither have repented or know what sin truly is. You do not eat poisoned food if you know it
will kill you, but these guys claim they do daily and without effort or protest. By Johns definition
they do not know God.
sin, sorrow, restitution and believing Christ washes us clean from confessed sin.
Now too many eternal security believers accuse me of sin they cannot describe, there is literally
only them taking the role of the false accuser of the brethren. As soon as they start this behaviour
they are standing in judgment of Gods redeemed people and make themselves His enemy.
So your point seems to be to be invalid.
Equally I have had too many interactions with people justifying their sin as inevitable that I know
they neither have repented or know what sin truly is. You do not eat poisoned food if you know it
will kill you, but these guys claim they do daily and without effort or protest. By Johns definition
they do not know God.
Do you understand the priniple of hitting a target with a slingshot, arrow or spear?
If you understand this, the target is clearly defined.
What sin are you saying God does not clearly define and we cannot clearly avoid it?
Until you define sin as scripture does, "your opinions are flawed"
By the way I am happy to read and learn from God. So if you think you have an inside line
into defining sin, please share?
But your inside track from past interactions is t declare you are a sinner failing to walk in the
way of Jesus. Or is your testimony something else?
If you understand this, the target is clearly defined.
What sin are you saying God does not clearly define and we cannot clearly avoid it?
Until you define sin as scripture does, "your opinions are flawed"
By the way I am happy to read and learn from God. So if you think you have an inside line
into defining sin, please share?
But your inside track from past interactions is t declare you are a sinner failing to walk in the
way of Jesus. Or is your testimony something else?
I have to agree with you, that is reflex reaction to all who vary in their views as if they are all
legalists or sinless perfectionists demonstrates the lack of ability of these folk to want to see
the truth or know true discernment.
It demonstrates the inability to have any fear condemning Gods people or opposing God himself.
God tests us, and gives us questions that only love and grace will walk through. But those who
do not understand love or grace, show their failure by judging others in a way they claim God does
not judge them, which actually means they are bringing their own judgement on themselves. Ironic
but just.
legalists or sinless perfectionists demonstrates the lack of ability of these folk to want to see
the truth or know true discernment.
It demonstrates the inability to have any fear condemning Gods people or opposing God himself.
God tests us, and gives us questions that only love and grace will walk through. But those who
do not understand love or grace, show their failure by judging others in a way they claim God does
not judge them, which actually means they are bringing their own judgement on themselves. Ironic
but just.
sin is something to be 'over-come' by our old-worldly-sinner's 'nature' -
hence, Jesus Christ's Sacrifice, our only way of being able to 'over-come' our 'old-man/worldly-ways'=Repentance'...
Thank You Jesus, for such un-speakable LOVE!!! and, Thank You for allowing Your
'called-elect-chosen' to have such a bless-ed taste of what is yet to come'...
Paul ran his 'race' and 'WON', and so can we...
hence, Jesus Christ's Sacrifice, our only way of being able to 'over-come' our 'old-man/worldly-ways'=Repentance'...
Thank You Jesus, for such un-speakable LOVE!!! and, Thank You for allowing Your
'called-elect-chosen' to have such a bless-ed taste of what is yet to come'...
Paul ran his 'race' and 'WON', and so can we...
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sin is something to be 'over-come' by our old-worldly-sinner's 'nature' -
hence, Jesus Christ's Sacrifice, our only way of being able to 'over-come' our 'old-man/worldly-ways'=Repentance'...
Thank You Jesus, for such un-speakable LOVE!!! and, Thank You for allowing Your
'called-elect-chosen' to have such a bless-ed taste of what is yet to come'...
Paul ran his 'race' and 'WON', and so can we...
hence, Jesus Christ's Sacrifice, our only way of being able to 'over-come' our 'old-man/worldly-ways'=Repentance'...
Thank You Jesus, for such un-speakable LOVE!!! and, Thank You for allowing Your
'called-elect-chosen' to have such a bless-ed taste of what is yet to come'...
Paul ran his 'race' and 'WON', and so can we...
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sin is something to be 'over-come' by our old-worldly-sinner's 'nature' -
hence, Jesus Christ's Sacrifice, our only way of being able to 'over-come' our 'old-man/worldly-ways'=Repentance'...
Thank You Jesus, for such un-speakable LOVE!!! and, Thank You for allowing Your
'called-elect-chosen' to have such a bless-ed taste of what is yet to come'...
Paul ran his 'race' and 'WON', and so can we...
hence, Jesus Christ's Sacrifice, our only way of being able to 'over-come' our 'old-man/worldly-ways'=Repentance'...
Thank You Jesus, for such un-speakable LOVE!!! and, Thank You for allowing Your
'called-elect-chosen' to have such a bless-ed taste of what is yet to come'...
Paul ran his 'race' and 'WON', and so can we...
Paul was not racing against sin ... and while we have positional sanctification we still sin.[/QUOTE
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yes precious, we do, but it is possible to go 'minutes-hours-days' without sinning, only because we are constantly
growing in our Faith which includes our 'actions-words-intents', nother words, our Saviour is refining us
and pointing us to the reality that we truly are 'over-coming' and climbing-walking stronger and stronger
in and into His Holy Light' - an incredible process, indeed!!!
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yes precious, we do, but it is possible to go 'minutes-hours-days' without sinning, only because we are constantly
growing in our Faith which includes our 'actions-words-intents', nother words, our Saviour is refining us
and pointing us to the reality that we truly are 'over-coming' and climbing-walking stronger and stronger
in and into His Holy Light' - an incredible process, indeed!!!
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Thank You, DC,
hub and I are still a work in progress - at our age, we just live day-by-day, by 'faith to faith' and it just gets better and better and more
REAL as we grow - 'our sinning ways become 'less-and-less', and this is what strengthens us and gives us the will to use
what God has given us - it becomes your life as you wake-up, and as you go to sleep'...
Thank You, DC,
hub and I are still a work in progress - at our age, we just live day-by-day, by 'faith to faith' and it just gets better and better and more
REAL as we grow - 'our sinning ways become 'less-and-less', and this is what strengthens us and gives us the will to use
what God has given us - it becomes your life as you wake-up, and as you go to sleep'...
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@oldethennew
Well thank you for calling me precious, reminds of the gold ring and Gollum from Lord of the Rings...hehehehe
We can dispense with the Pauline letters then, and scripture in general.
Except for the fact that scripture itself tells us that all scripture is given for .....
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.
And I wonder why Paul reminds us of this....
12So the one who thinks he is standing firm should be careful not to fall.
1Cor 10:12
The flesh is not being redeemed, we are justified and sanctified. We do not finish in the flesh what is a spiritual work.
We abide.
Well thank you for calling me precious, reminds of the gold ring and Gollum from Lord of the Rings...hehehehe
We can dispense with the Pauline letters then, and scripture in general.
Except for the fact that scripture itself tells us that all scripture is given for .....
16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.
And I wonder why Paul reminds us of this....
12So the one who thinks he is standing firm should be careful not to fall.
1Cor 10:12
The flesh is not being redeemed, we are justified and sanctified. We do not finish in the flesh what is a spiritual work.
We abide.
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26 Blessed is he who comes in the name of the LORD. From the house of the LORD we bless you.
27 The LORD is God, and he has made his light shine upon us. With boughs in hand, join in the festal procession up to the horns of the altar.
28 You are my God, and I will give you thanks; you are my God, and I will exalt you.
Psalm 118
27 The LORD is God, and he has made his light shine upon us. With boughs in hand, join in the festal procession up to the horns of the altar.
28 You are my God, and I will give you thanks; you are my God, and I will exalt you.
Psalm 118
In regards to Paul "winning the race", the context is about him having finished what the Lord had set out for him in preaching the gospel.
(2 Tim 4:6-7 For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith)
(2 Tim 4:6-7 For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith)
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