Not By Works

[JesusOnly777]

Luke 14:33, Luke 12:33, The rich man is no where in this verse, he addressed the multitude of followers. (From The Word of God, Jesus Christ a command)

The commands don’t have a expiration date, and there is nothing that points to it being just the disciples, The Word disciples is interchangeable with Christian by the way.

 

[YourTruthGod]

That is not true brother. Nothing has changed all the commands apply to you also, you are no different. Luke 14:33, John 14:15, John15:12, John 12:48, John 8:31&51, Luke 16:13. Matthew 7:22, Matthew 5:19.

The foundation has been laid, brother.

Ephesians 2:20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone.

1 Corinthians 3:11
For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

 

[GodsGrace101]

Sister don't fall foul of what you feel you have been accused of.
Salvation

I believe there should be some transformation in BAC.
@mailmandan is always speaking about demonstrative statement sin the N.T.

Where is the demonstrative evidence of knowledge of Jesus when hatred is so evident?
I leave this thread remembering some pretty hateful persons.

1 John 4:7-8
7Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

I really am worried for their soul.

 

[YourTruthGod]

The commands don’t have a expiration date, and there is nothing that points to it being just the disciples, The Word disciples is interchangeable with Christian by the way.

There are things the disciples were told to do during the laying of foundation. They were to be ministers of the gospel. Not all were to live their homes and become traveling ministers.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Luke 14:33, Luke 12:33, The rich man is no where in this verse, he addressed the multitude of followers. (From The Word of God, Jesus Christ a command)

The rich man is not the only one who was asked to help lay the foundation.

 

[JesusOnly777]

The foundation has been laid, brother.

Ephesians 2:20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone.

1 Corinthians 3:11
For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

You are comparing the Courner Stone with the Bible,

You are saying sense the first Christians have followed Jesus Christ’s commands, that makes you exempt from obeying Jesus. That is what you are saying. You use other verses to try and combat what Jesus says.

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

 

[YourTruthGod]

You are comparing the Courner Stone with the Bible,

You are saying sense the first Christians have followed Jesus Christ’s commands, that makes you exempt from obeying Jesus. That is what you are saying. You use other verses to try and combat what Jesus says.

Ephesians 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

You quoted Paul who went to peoples homes and told them how to live.

How is the Christian wives keeping busy in their houses if their houses were sold and given to the poor?

Titus 2:5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

 

[UnderGrace]

I believe there should be some transformation in BAC.
@mailmandan is always speaking about demonstrative statement sin the N.T.

Where is the demonstrative evidence of knowledge of Jesus when hatred is so evident?
I leave this thread remembering some pretty hateful persons.

1 John 4:7-8
7Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love.

I really am worried for their soul.

No one hates anyone, we do hate false doctrine that stifles grace, adds works to salvation........ salvation is apart from works.

You yourself should be able to relate to this on some level with how you feel about Calvinism?

 

[JesusOnly777]

You quoted Paul who went to peoples homes and told them how to live.

How is the Christian wives keeping busy in their houses if their houses were sold and given to the poor?

Titus 2:5 to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.

Again if you don’t see what Jesus has said, and see how the entire New Testament reflects of the Forsaketh all command, then that is on you.

Peace be apon you brother.

 

[YourTruthGod]

No one hates anyone, we do hate false doctrine that stifles grace, adds works to salvation........ salvation is apart from works.

You yourself should be able to relate to this on some level with how you feel about Calvinism?

Obeying Jesus isn't ever wrong.

We are to stay humble as Jesus says.
We are to live our lives forgiving others.
Those are some of the works we have to do.

 

[UnderGrace]

There are two laws, the old one and the new one. The old law is no more. There is a new law.

Oh really, where is this new law?

 

[YourTruthGod]

Again if you don’t see what Jesus has said, and see how the entire New Testament reflects of the Forsaketh all command, then that is on you.

Peace be apon you brother.

You don't get understanding until you get saved, but you have to repent of your sins until then.

 

[YourTruthGod]

Oh really, where is this new law?

Jesus came and gave new rules and guidelines.

Do you know what they are?

 

[UnderGrace]

Jesus came and gave new rules and guidelines.

Do you know what they are?

Yes and is this how I am saved by following the new rules and guidelines, like wearing a veil when I pray?

 

[YourTruthGod]

Yes and is this how I am saved by following the new rules and guidelines, like wearing a veil when I pray?

Where does Jesus say to do that?

 

[UnderGrace]

Where does Jesus say to do that?

So Paul does not invoke new laws and rules only Jesus?

 

[YourTruthGod]

So Paul does not invoke new laws and rules only Jesus?

Paul teaches what Jesus teaches.

 

[UnderGrace]

Paul teaches what Jesus teaches.

So then my question stands do I need to wear a veil when I pray, is this a rule?

 

[YourTruthGod]

So then my question stands do I need to wear a veil when I pray, is this a rule?

Paul was preaching about peace and how to do what is culturally acceptable, so as not to start a revolution on women's dress codes.
It doesn't matter though now if a woman wears a veil or not.

 

[GodsGrace101]

No one hates anyone, we do hate false doctrine that stifles grace, adds works to salvation........ salvation is apart from works.

You yourself should be able to relate to this on some level with how you feel about Calvinism?

No UG.
This is hate toward me and those that agree with me.
If you've followed my posts to calvinists, I always address them with respect and give scripture when I can and act civilly toward them.

I never call them names...
I'm never sarcastic with them...
I never tell them they're going to hell...

All of the above has been done to me.
I don't hate anyone back but I truly am becoming concerned for some here...
Because I do repeat again that doctrine does not save us....
But what I see here is pure hatred and dislike of a brother Christian.
This is a very bad sign....