Not By Works

[PennEd]

Nephilim DNA is your argument? Wow. That's a conspiracy theorist dream. Do you have Scripture that says this, or does Scripture rather argue it's not because of their DNA but due to their extreme sinfulness? Can we save absurd subjectivity for others to use as argumentation?

I'd argue it was their sin nature and that since God commanded them to be wiped out then that's his will. The cattle, sheep, other livestock? Nephilim DNA too?

Are there still nephilim today?

I choose to believe the Potter can do as he will with his clay. I wouldn't even hint at God being maniacal because in your context if it is not the reason why you say they were slaughtered that they were in fact slaughtered then you're calling him that yourself.

Yeah I think the animals were corrupted as well. Even after the flood.


ALLLLLLL flesh had become corrupted, save Noah, who was perfect in his generations or read that GENES.

As in the days of Noah.... How could anybody deny the mixing of species isn't happening TODAY, right before our eyes. I could pull up volumes of stories. Human DNA introduced to all sorts of animals. Just last week it was reported that a Chinese researcher edited a human baby.

The Bible will not entirely make sense unless it viewed as war against the serpent's seed. And how he tried to corrupt or kill the Messiah's line, and God's reaction to his devices.

Tough red pill for many to swallow. I understand that. I'm cool with getting strange looks and comments for holding such a view.

 

[Sackcloth-N-Ashes]

Come on bro.

He’s made the claim, he needs to back it up.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

so what did God mean when he said the sin of the ammorite is not yet complete? What sin?

 

[PennEd]

Well, I don’t buy the sons of God to be fallen angels, because once fallen they would not be sons of God. Nor would they be considered sons to begin with, imo. So that argument falls flat right out of the gate.

6 And the angels who did not keep their [c]proper domain, but left their own abode, He has reserved in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgment of the great day; 7 as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the [d]vengeance of eternal fire.

Why are the ANGELS in Tartarus right now? What was their offense that God put them there?

 

[Sackcloth-N-Ashes]

Yeah I think the animals were corrupted as well. Even after the flood.


ALLLLLLL flesh had become corrupted, save Noah, who was perfect in his generations or read that GENES.

As in the days of Noah.... How could anybody deny the mixing of species isn't happening TODAY, right before our eyes. I could pull up volumes of stories. Human DNA introduced to all sorts of animals. Just last week it was reported that a Chinese researcher edited a human baby.

The Bible will not entirely make sense unless it viewed as war against the serpent's seed. And how he tried to corrupt or kill the Messiah's line, and God's reaction to his devices.

Tough red pill for many to swallow. I understand that. I'm cool with getting strange looks and comments for holding such a view.

Noah was not sinless my friend.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Yeah I think the animals were corrupted as well. Even after the flood.


ALLLLLLL flesh had become corrupted, save Noah, who was perfect in his generations or read that GENES.

As in the days of Noah.... How could anybody deny the mixing of species isn't happening TODAY, right before our eyes. I could pull up volumes of stories. Human DNA introduced to all sorts of animals. Just last week it was reported that a Chinese researcher edited a human baby.

The Bible will not entirely make sense unless it viewed as war against the serpent's seed. And how he tried to corrupt or kill the Messiah's line, and God's reaction to his devices.

Tough red pill for many to swallow. I understand that. I'm cool with getting strange looks and comments for holding such a view.

Fact: They're mixing human and animal DNA.

Fact: They're also mixing female and male DNA together, to further pervert this world.

 

[preacher4truth]

Yeah I think the animals were corrupted as well. Even after the flood.


ALLLLLLL flesh had become corrupted, save Noah, who was perfect in his generations or read that GENES.

As in the days of Noah.... How could anybody deny the mixing of species isn't happening TODAY, right before our eyes. I could pull up volumes of stories. Human DNA introduced to all sorts of animals. Just last week it was reported that a Chinese researcher edited a human baby.

The Bible will not entirely make sense unless it viewed as war against the serpent's seed. And how he tried to corrupt or kill the Messiah's line, and God's reaction to his devices.

Tough red pill for many to swallow. I understand that. I'm cool with getting strange looks and comments for holding such a view.

So Noah was sinless?

The nephilim argument is bogus and subjective. The sin argument is biblical and objective. You're leaning towards gnosis, not truth. Using sci-fi like arguments from the world does nothing to support your theory.

People aren't judged by God based on DNA but due to their sinful state and being thereby condemned. But Hitler would certainly make such a judgement though. You really want to go down that trail?

 

[PennEd]

Noah was not sinless my friend.

Ummm ... Where did I say he was sinless?

 

[PennEd]

So Noah was sinless?

The nephilim argument is bogus and subjective. The sin argument is biblical and objective. You're leaning towards gnosis, not truth. Using sci-fi like arguments from the world does nothing to support your theory.

People aren't judged by God based on DNA but due to their sinful state and being thereby condemned. But Hitler would certainly make such a judgement though. You really want to go down that trail?

Please answer.

Why are the Angels in Tartarus right now?

 

[preacher4truth]

Fact: They're mixing human and animal DNA.

Fact: They're also mixing female and male DNA together, to further pervert this world.

Who are "they" and where is this proof?

Man is already corrupt in nature. We aren't condemned for our DNA or for the state of our flesh. That does not corrupt man, the sin nature does.

 

[preacher4truth]

Please answer.

Why are the Angels in Tartarus right now?

After you supply biblical proof for why God killed those women, children, animals, and men according to your reasoning. I'm not into answering questions when mine get blown off.

 

[blue_ladybug]

It's also a known and admitted fact that human cloning is happening. The CIA admitted that a long time ago. Since we know that clones are soul-less, then what animates them?

The answer that no one wants to believe is: demons, more accurately, fallen angels who desperately seek human bodies to inhabit. What better way to hide in plain sight, and just have them be thought of as eccentric or weird, instead of realizing that demons indeed walk among us, in soul-less human forms.

 

[PennEd]

Who are "they" and where is this proof?

Man is already corrupt in nature. We aren't condemned for our DNA or for the state of our flesh. That does not corrupt man, the sin nature does.

Of course it's our sin nature that corrupts. That's why Jesus came as a HUMAN BEING, not a Nephillim. Not sure what that has to do with God's creation becoming corrupted by fallen angel dna.

If the old world was destroyed because of the type of sin we commit today, every one of us better start building an ark!

No. There were very specific sins that condemned the Old World. Now think about Jesus's admonition about the days being shortened or no flesh would be saved. I believe He is talking about non mixed human DNA>

People are vigorously working right now to mix human DNA with all sorts of animals AND machines.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Who are "they" and where is this proof?

Man is already corrupt in nature. We aren't condemned for our DNA or for the state of our flesh. That does not corrupt man, the sin nature does.

I never said that we're condemned for our DNA. But it IS a fact that they are doing human cloning. They've cloned several animals, and a couple of babies. Barbra Streisand even had her dog cloned.. lol

"They" would be the powerful evil people of this world.

 

[preacher4truth]

What happened to Noah's brothers and sisters? Their DNA was clean too, right? Clean DNA earns favor in God's eyes, right? I didn't see them get on the ark. All others didn't believe the preaching of Noahbecause of their DNA? Why preach 120 years to bad DNA drones? The elect have good DNA, the non elect bad DNA. Serpent seed doctrine &c &c &c to infinitum is the absurdity.

No thanks, I'll stick with sound doctrine, not myths and fables, 2 Timothy 4:1-4.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

just of note. Animal and human dna are incompatible. that is why humans can not procreate with any animal all "kinds" are limited to their own "kind"

 

[preacher4truth]

I never said that we're condemned for our DNA. But it IS a fact that they are doing human cloning. They've cloned several animals, and a couple of babies. Barbra Streisand even had her dog cloned.. lol

"They" would be the powerful evil people of this world.

I'm just showing how absurd your argument would become. But that is meant for people who want to think it through instead of defending their nonsense no matter what.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Of course it's our sin nature that corrupts. That's why Jesus came as a HUMAN BEING, not a Nephillim. Not sure what that has to do with God's creation becoming corrupted by fallen angel dna.

If the old world was destroyed because of the type of sin we commit today, every one of us better start building an ark!

No. There were very specific sins that condemned the Old World. Now think about Jesus's admonition about the days being shortened or no flesh would be saved. I believe He is talking about non mixed human DNA>

People are vigorously working right now to mix human DNA with all sorts of animals AND machines.

I believe the old world was destroyed for the same reason God told Israel to destroy the Amorite and all who were in Canaan.

I also think the term "their sin was not yet complete" would answer all our questions.

 

[PennEd]

After you supply biblical proof for why God killed those women, children, animals, and men according to your reasoning. I'm not into answering questions when mine get blown off.

The proof is they were giants. These giants are all through Scripture. Certainly not just Goliath.

Here is an innocuous one you never even realized. David has these dudes lie down. And if you were taller than X you were killed. Apparently David had knowledge that not all of these particular tribes were infected. Just as some genetic traits aren't always inherited.

2 Samuel 8 New King James Version (NKJV)
David’s Further Conquests
8 After this it came to pass that David [a]attacked the Philistines and subdued them. And David took [b]Metheg Ammah from the hand of the Philistines.

2 Then he defeated Moab. Forcing them down to the ground, he measured them off with a line. With two lines he measured off those to be put to death, and with one full line those to be kept alive. So the Moabites became David’s servants, and brought tribute.

 

[preacher4truth]

I never said that we're condemned for our DNA. But it IS a fact that they are doing human cloning. They've cloned several animals, and a couple of babies. Barbra Streisand even had her dog cloned.. lol

"They" would be the powerful evil people of this world.

Powerful evil ones huh?

Turn off the sci-fi channel (whatever medium it is) and crack open that dusty Bible sister!