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Temptations to Sin
Mat 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
Mat 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
What about this one? What was it intended for?
Mat 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
Mat 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.
What about this one? What was it intended for?
This attempt to say we are saying it is about salvation is the problem of this
language.
We agree it is about our life and how we should walk.
You want to project we are saying something else. Where the disconnect comes I have
had discussions with cc members who has said it is only there to condemn people because
its goals are impossible.
Now if you dc, are saying it is our guide in life in the Lord, then so are we.
We are saved by faith in Christ after repentance of our sins.
I know somehow you must make me an enemy is some way because to say
we follow the Lord equally is just something you could never say. And there
is the problem, you denial we can be brothers because of our faith.
Now normally I would look for a reason or source of this divide, but I know
that it is something about who you are, so God bless you, may you know His
peace and love.
language.
We agree it is about our life and how we should walk.
You want to project we are saying something else. Where the disconnect comes I have
had discussions with cc members who has said it is only there to condemn people because
its goals are impossible.
Now if you dc, are saying it is our guide in life in the Lord, then so are we.
We are saved by faith in Christ after repentance of our sins.
I know somehow you must make me an enemy is some way because to say
we follow the Lord equally is just something you could never say. And there
is the problem, you denial we can be brothers because of our faith.
Now normally I would look for a reason or source of this divide, but I know
that it is something about who you are, so God bless you, may you know His
peace and love.
It is an allegory.
I believe I have found the hidden meaning, at least in part.
As for me, I have all my appendages and everything functions as it was designed to do. I believe one of the types or metaphors Jesus was speaking of is the pain it would cause to cut off a body part.
Another thing we are told is to not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. We are told to cut them off from our company and to not hang around them or to wish them God speed or any blessing, lest we be a partaker of their sins. That in itself is a form of cutting off, especially if they are dear to you such as a relative. The closer you are to them and the more you love them, the greater the pain it would cause if you were to cut them off.
The other one would be a spouse. The bible says the two have been joined together so much so that they are no longer two but one FLESH. Even Adam said Eve was BONE OF MY BONE AND FLESH OF MY FLESH. Getting a divorce would be a type of cutting off or plucking out an appendage or eye, respectively.
The Jews were referred to as a natural branch in the vine and everyone else was considered to be the wild branch in the vine. God can and has removed the natural branch to make room for the wild to be grafted in. So in that sense, it too is a form of cutting away from God.
The only other kind of cutting away of the flesh that I know of would be the child of God, from God, because we are a part of the body of Christ. The Jews were not however a part of the body of Christ though, we the believers are.
So I see this referring to the child of God being cut or plucked from the body of Christ and being cast into hell.
What I see has nothing to do with what I would prefer to believe a loving God would do. It is what I perceive the word of God is saying.
So the SPIRITUAL meaning, I believe, is referring to those who were in Christ at one time, and were cut off because of their turning away from God within their heart.
Again, can to walk together except they be agreed? The obvious answer is a resounding, no.
I believe I have found the hidden meaning, at least in part.
As for me, I have all my appendages and everything functions as it was designed to do. I believe one of the types or metaphors Jesus was speaking of is the pain it would cause to cut off a body part.
Another thing we are told is to not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. We are told to cut them off from our company and to not hang around them or to wish them God speed or any blessing, lest we be a partaker of their sins. That in itself is a form of cutting off, especially if they are dear to you such as a relative. The closer you are to them and the more you love them, the greater the pain it would cause if you were to cut them off.
The other one would be a spouse. The bible says the two have been joined together so much so that they are no longer two but one FLESH. Even Adam said Eve was BONE OF MY BONE AND FLESH OF MY FLESH. Getting a divorce would be a type of cutting off or plucking out an appendage or eye, respectively.
The Jews were referred to as a natural branch in the vine and everyone else was considered to be the wild branch in the vine. God can and has removed the natural branch to make room for the wild to be grafted in. So in that sense, it too is a form of cutting away from God.
The only other kind of cutting away of the flesh that I know of would be the child of God, from God, because we are a part of the body of Christ. The Jews were not however a part of the body of Christ though, we the believers are.
So I see this referring to the child of God being cut or plucked from the body of Christ and being cast into hell.
What I see has nothing to do with what I would prefer to believe a loving God would do. It is what I perceive the word of God is saying.
So the SPIRITUAL meaning, I believe, is referring to those who were in Christ at one time, and were cut off because of their turning away from God within their heart.
Again, can to walk together except they be agreed? The obvious answer is a resounding, no.
Part of the problem with your post is you assume too much.
First, that I am like you are, in that I sin all the time, 'cause "I'm a sinner saved by grace", and that I am not righteous because I sin everyday, all day.
And second, that I am somehow trying to work my way to heaven with good works, and that if I fail to perform well enough, that I won't make it to heaven. I never said such a thing.
I am a born again child of the King, right now, and have been for better than 3 decades. I too am sealed by the blood of Jesus because I keep His word. And by "keep", I mean within my heart. And by doing that, I allow the word of God to mold me into His image. "Thy word oh Lord have I hid in mine heart THAT I MIGHT NOT SIN AGAINST THEE."
If your conscience never bothers you about anything you do and you are doing as you believe you should, which would be walking in the Spirit, and that would include, walking/living by faith, loving God, and doing to others (before they do unto you, ha ha) as you would have them do to you. If you are doing that, then it is possible for God's children to be perfect, even as God is perfect.
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
If you don't know you are sinning, like when I use to say, "Good God...", then God does not hold that against you as sin.
But when God told me to stop saying that, that I was saying His name in vain, though it took me 2 months to understand why, I would have to catch myself, and eventually I stopped. If I continued after I knew it was a sin, then it would have been counted as a sin.
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
First, that I am like you are, in that I sin all the time, 'cause "I'm a sinner saved by grace", and that I am not righteous because I sin everyday, all day.
And second, that I am somehow trying to work my way to heaven with good works, and that if I fail to perform well enough, that I won't make it to heaven. I never said such a thing.
I am a born again child of the King, right now, and have been for better than 3 decades. I too am sealed by the blood of Jesus because I keep His word. And by "keep", I mean within my heart. And by doing that, I allow the word of God to mold me into His image. "Thy word oh Lord have I hid in mine heart THAT I MIGHT NOT SIN AGAINST THEE."
If your conscience never bothers you about anything you do and you are doing as you believe you should, which would be walking in the Spirit, and that would include, walking/living by faith, loving God, and doing to others (before they do unto you, ha ha) as you would have them do to you. If you are doing that, then it is possible for God's children to be perfect, even as God is perfect.
Jas 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
If you don't know you are sinning, like when I use to say, "Good God...", then God does not hold that against you as sin.
But when God told me to stop saying that, that I was saying His name in vain, though it took me 2 months to understand why, I would have to catch myself, and eventually I stopped. If I continued after I knew it was a sin, then it would have been counted as a sin.
Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
