Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

It is probably a combination of factors.
In their minds
1. All sin forgiven
2. good works done by believers are good
3. good works done by non-believers evil

Now if faith saves you and good works are the gilt edged stock, non-believers only
have good works of evil to doom them, though they rely on this self righteousness
to gain salvation from God. So the summary is good works salvationists.

Now in their world view we cannot be believers, because we believe you can loose
your faith / salvation therefore we must be by default good works salvationists.

It makes sense if facts are ignored. So to not be convicted about security of faith,
means you have no faith, not your faith is so secure, you do not even look into the future.
Ofcourse you will see heaven and the Lord. Do you say to a loving married couple, do you
worry about divorce because if you do, you are not married is a ludicrous idea, literally.

Your 1 thru 3 prove you have no clue...all three are wrong or misapplied.....

1. All sin is forgiven in Christ except unbelief<--Blasphemy
2. Good works are done by Christ thru believers as a living sacrifice<--All glory to Jesus
3. There are none good no not one....There is not a just man upon the earth that DOES GOOD AND SINS NOT!

Delusional...........a very good word that describes accurately your stance.... HAHA

 

[limey410]

It is probably a combination of factors.
In their minds
1. All sin forgiven
2. good works done by believers are good
3. good works done by non-believers evil

Now if faith saves you and good works are the gilt edged stock, non-believers only
have good works of evil to doom them, though they rely on this self righteousness
to gain salvation from God. So the summary is good works salvationists.

Now in their world view we cannot be believers, because we believe you can loose
your faith / salvation therefore we must be by default good works salvationists.

It makes sense if facts are ignored. So to not be convicted about security of faith,
means you have no faith, not your faith is so secure, you do not even look into the future.
Ofcourse you will see heaven and the Lord. Do you say to a loving married couple, do you
worry about divorce because if you do, you are not married is a ludicrous idea, literally.

WAIT, WAIT WAIT lose your salvation????? You are a liar and the truth is NOT in you. That is crazy. (But I'm sure you will show me one or two scriptures, that you totally misinterpret, to back your point up.)

Before you do, let me just mention there are a lot more scriptures that CLEARLY show me my salvation cannot be taken away or given away, or lost or whatever garbage you will spew, and if God was so weak that we as mere humans could lose the indwelling Spirit of Him, by some action(s) of ours, then ALL the Power is now OURS.....mwahahahahaha.
Also the only sin left un-forgiven is the Sin of rejecting the Holy Spirit at the point of transaction. Not once the most glorious, mind blowing transaction of the living God has occurred.
I apologize for my hyperactivity in this matter, but Oh MY God. You need help.

 

[dcontroversal]

WAIT, WAIT WAIT lose your salvation????? You are a liar and the truth is NOT in you. That is crazy. (But I'm sure you will show me one or two scriptures, that you totally misinterpret, to back your point up.)

Before you do, let me just mention there are a lot more scriptures that CLEARLY show me my salvation cannot be taken away or given away, or lost or whatever garbage you will spew, and if God was so weak that we as mere humans could lose the indwelling Spirit of Him, by some action(s) of ours, then ALL the Power is now OURS.....mwahahahahaha.
Also the only sin left un-forgiven is the Sin of rejecting the Holy Spirit at the point of transaction. Not once the most glorious, mind blowing transaction of the living God has occurred.
I apologize for my hyperactivity in this matter, but Oh MY God. You need help.

AMEN....funny...they say we can lose it because of what we believe and yet they never lose it....such hypocrisy, especially by their very doctrine they are not born from above.....

 

[dcontroversal]

Which sin gets a saved person kicked to the curb? How many different ways can I ask you this question and get some kind of straight answer that is less than one sentence?

Never.....he is always right, never sins...heck....he could show Peter and Jesus how to walk on water......

 

[Sully]

Never.....he is always right, never sins...heck....he could show Peter and Jesus how to walk on water......

He seems intelligent aside from being wrong in the worst way. Gotta assume there's some shilling going on...

 

[fredoheaven]

The way you word it - is choppy from the way I see it said in Scripture, so let me explain it as to let the Scripture say it in it's entirety:
Romans 6:16-23New International Version (NIV)

16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to Godthat, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
19 I am using an example from everyday life because of your human limitations. Just as you used to offer yourselves as slaves to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer yourselves as slaves to righteousness leading to holiness. 20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21 What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[a] Christ Jesus our Lord.



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So, you have the explaining using the scriptures you quoted now as whole
You said it's choppy and is indeed correct!
So that what you really like is now your dislike.
FYI, the post is originally not mine.

The bible is plain- "Prove all things". I fail to see your probing...

"Prove all things"

 

[fredoheaven]

Have you ever noticed when Jesus spoke he answered people's questions with what seemed inappropriate, or not on topic? Check it out, He did it all the time. Have you ever wondered why He just didn't simply answer their questions on the Questionnaire's path of thinking? It's because Jesus was investing in their eternity, not their temporal happiness. God spoke then, and still does today, directly to our hearts, for He knew we think from our hearts and not, first, from our brains. He also knew the things we needed to hear we could not grasp fully yet, so He tried to show us with the Spirit's movement revealing His New Revelations.

"When Jesus spoke he answered people's question." Agreed with that. But I asked did he (Seoche) asked questions?

Tell me if he asked question?

Thanks

"Probe all things"

 

[fredoheaven]

Ok, can I ask you then - what do you find unbiblical about what I have said? And let me ask you to be 'specific' and not 'speculative'. And let me also ask you - what in relationship to Correction, and Rebuke (which the Bible has under toe), do you feel entitled to become "harder" in your personality(for God's sake?). Ecclesiastes mentions what as his conclusion? Not to from time to time be harder for God's sake, but to "Fear God, and obey His commandments." Right? So, your harder allowance is not hardness at all, it is to only be loyal to His Word without hardness!

Think about it....are we using the wise man here to appropriate our own mis-behaviors? We need not fight Satan toward militant style gain, the war has already been won! Not by us, but by God, thru Jesus Christ. And , based on that fact, now we are asked by Him to stand (behaviorally) on things already accomplished in Christ in the wake of what still remains on earth - Spiritual Warfare. But this, again, is a matter of claiming victory, not fighting for it, as we remain in Christ Jesus, and His Words remain in me. While we say, "Not my will, but thine be done."

Gentleness and respect will never lose there power in Christ.

"Prove all things"

 

[slave]

So, you have the explaining using the scriptures you quoted now as whole
You said it's choppy and is indeed correct!
So that what you really like is now your dislike.
FYI, the post is originally not mine.

The bible is plain- "Prove all things". I fail to see your probing...

"Prove all things"

Oh no, I have lived a lifetime of probing, and I have come to understand thru God's graciousness, that I need only to rely on His Word when explaining myself to another. Simply put, I couldn't have answered your question better than the Word of God did. But it's entirety being mentioned escapes me from any other spirits ambush.

 

[know1]

WAIT, WAIT WAIT lose your salvation????? You are a liar and the truth is NOT in you. That is crazy. (But I'm sure you will show me one or two scriptures, that you totally misinterpret, to back your point up.)

Before you do, let me just mention there are a lot more scriptures that CLEARLY show me my salvation cannot be taken away or given away, or lost or whatever garbage you will spew, and if God was so weak that we as mere humans could lose the indwelling Spirit of Him, by some action(s) of ours, then ALL the Power is now OURS.....mwahahahahaha.
Also the only sin left un-forgiven is the Sin of rejecting the Holy Spirit at the point of transaction. Not once the most glorious, mind blowing transaction of the living God has occurred.
I apologize for my hyperactivity in this matter, but Oh MY God. You need help.

I beg to differ sir.
On the contrary, there is more scripture that suggests otherwise, that it is indeed possible for one to lose their salvation.
If it is impossible for a child of God to lose their salavation, then I think it would be paramount for you to answer an important and pertinent question. That is if you can.
The bible clearly states, we as children of God, are a part of and make up, the body of Christ.

1Co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Co 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.

So we who are truly born again are in and a part of the body of Christ.
The bible also states that Jesus is the Truth and the Word of God.

Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

If Jesus, who is the Truth and the Word of God, warned and even commanded us to pluck out, cut off, and cast away a member of our body that OFFENDS US, that it perish, rather than the whole body being cast into hell, then wouldn't Jesus be a hypocrite if He did any less to a member of His body that offended Him, than what He commanded us to do?
Would He command us to do anything that He Himself wouldn't do?
I should say, not. Therefore, if you cannot explain away this scripture, since it casts possibly credible doubt for OSAS, it would be reasonable for one to say that it is indeed possible for a child of God to lose their salvation, by being cut off from the body of Christ and cast into hell to perish.
This is just one of the many pages if have accumulated suggesting that once saved might not always be forever saved. There are many scripture verses one has to ignore to believe in OSAS once you become aware of some of the truths of the word of God.
And if I have taken the above scripture our of context or twisted it in any way, then you need to prove that I did, for I did not.

Yes, He loves us conditionally, and yes, He promised those who believe, with the corresponding work, would have eternal life, but not to everyone. For He said, "Not everyone who says to me, or calls me, Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven."
WHY NOT, when they believed as you do?
How can that be when the bible says, "EVERYONE or WHOSOEVER calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved, and to them that believe on His name shall become sons or daughters of God".
One cannot cast out a demon without first believing and calling on the name of Jesus, and yet Jesus said, "I never knew you..."
But this person believed and called on the name of the lord to cast out evil spirits, according to scripture. How then can Jesus justify denying them their salvation when they believed?
What about Judas Iscariot? Wasn't he one of the twelve sent out to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, and cast out devils?

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

He too believed, like the other, probable with signs following, but to no avail.
So how can scripture guarantee ones salvation by believing and calling on the name of Jesus like Judas did, and yet fail to obtain it?

 

[limey410]

I beg to differ sir.
On the contrary, there is more scripture that suggests otherwise, that it is indeed possible for one to lose their salvation.
If it is impossible for a child of God to lose their salavation, then I think it would be paramount for you to answer an important and pertinent question. That is if you can.
The bible clearly states, we as children of God, are a part of and make up, the body of Christ.

1Co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Co 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.

So we who are truly born again are in and a part of the body of Christ.
The bible also states that Jesus is the Truth and the Word of God.

Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

If Jesus, who is the Truth and the Word of God, warned and even commanded us to pluck out, cut off, and cast away a member of our body that OFFENDS US, that it perish, rather than the whole body being cast into hell, then wouldn't Jesus be a hypocrite if He did any less to a member of His body that offended Him, than what He commanded us to do?
Would He command us to do anything that He Himself wouldn't do?
I should say, not. Therefore, if you cannot explain away this scripture, since it casts possibly credible doubt for OSAS, it would be reasonable for one to say that it is indeed possible for a child of God to lose their salvation, by being cut off from the body of Christ and cast into hell to perish.
This is just one of the many pages if have accumulated suggesting that once saved might not always be forever saved. There are many scripture verses one has to ignore to believe in OSAS once you become aware of some of the truths of the word of God.
And if I have taken the above scripture our of context or twisted it in any way, then you need to prove that I did, for I did not.

Yes, He loves us conditionally, and yes, He promised those who believe, with the corresponding work, would have eternal life, but not to everyone. For He said, "Not everyone who says to me, or calls me, Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven."
WHY NOT, when they believed as you do?
How can that be when the bible says, "EVERYONE or WHOSOEVER calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved, and to them that believe on His name shall become sons or daughters of God".
One cannot cast out a demon without first believing and calling on the name of Jesus, and yet Jesus said, "I never knew you..."
But this person believed and called on the name of the lord to cast out evil spirits, according to scripture. How then can Jesus justify denying them their salvation when they believed?
What about Judas Iscariot? Wasn't he one of the twelve sent out to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, and cast out devils?

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

He too believed, like the other, probable with signs following, but to no avail.
So how can scripture guarantee ones salvation by believing and calling on the name of Jesus like Judas did, and yet fail to obtain it?

You are using the Sermon on the Mount for a purpose it was not intended for.

 

[Grace777x70]

You are using the Sermon on the Mount for a purpose it was not intended for.

I agree...some people try to "dictate" the life of God to people that Jesus shows are descriptions of what life looks like in the kingdom. Trying to "dictate' the fruit of the Spirit without allowing the life of Christ to bear His fruit in us creates a religion of self-works which actually nullifies the very grace needed for real transformation to occur.

 

[garee]

Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

If Jesus, who is the Truth and the Word of God, warned and even commanded us to pluck out, cut off, and cast away a member of our body that OFFENDS US, that it perish, rather than the whole body being cast into hell, then wouldn't Jesus be a hypocrite if He did any less to a member of His body that offended Him, than what He commanded us to do?
Would He command us to do anything that He Himself wouldn't do?

How many eyes do you have, and are you left handed because you cut off your right.?

It’s a parable without parables Christ the word of God spoke not. Find out the spiritual meaning hid from the lost. We walk by faith the unseen. Not by cutting off ones hand as that seen.

It the Jews that sought after a sign before they would believe. The cross was there stumbling block

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No, it doesn't say "do this or else you won't be saved" - your right, that's why I have never said that either..... We live in victory; not to attain it. But what it does say, with boldness, is that we will do His will, because we are saved, and that His will is in opposition to the anti-god Spirit.; and the results therein. That stings if you are unwilling to surrender to God in your body and mind letting Him finish the Work He started in you.

Does this sting you as to what God says, or comfort you? This will depend on you in placement to His will.

It comforts me to know that no matter how hard I work, And no matter how many times I fail. God will not let go of me, and he will continue to do the work he started.. That like Jonah, I can try to walk away from God, But there is really no place I can go. He will always put a road block and I will always come to a point where I say ok God I will do what you will. And the job God has cut out for me, Will be carried out.

What saddens me is there are people here who reject this thought. And think we will gain or lose salvation based on how well we do.

Which by the way, Happens to be the topic of this thread. How are we saved, By works or "not by works"

The topic is NOT sanctification (how a christian should act..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Which sin gets a saved person kicked to the curb? How many different ways can I ask you this question and get some kind of straight answer that is less than one sentence?

one can just pray they treat their own children better than they way they CLAIM God treats his children..

ps. Good luck getting them to answer you. It is a tactic,, (and prepare to have the blame shifted to you)

 

[limey410]

I suppose I should clarify: ^^^^^^

Let me of course ask you a few questions.

If you have sinned with your eyes, why haven't you plucked out your right eye? (and why is Jesus letting you keep your left eye?). Same with your hands.

How are you doing with being more righteous than the pharisees? they were SERIOUS about keeping the Law of Moses.

How about being as perfect as God.....that's a tough one. Don't give me the try stuff either, Jesus was VERY specific about it."Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father in Heaven is perfect" He commanded you to be perfect.

So you my friend have failed miserably at following just a couple of these things and will be cast into the pit of Hell.......But for His grace and mercy there is a way. Thank God.

Jesus was teaching the Law. His ministry while he walked the earth was to show how futile it was to try to live by the law.

That the only way to live was by His Grace and Mercy.

That what He was about to do on the cross was going give us a way.

The New Covenant, not yet established while Jesus was giving the sermon on the mount. If anything those folks left with a sense of "we are doomed, WHAT can we do. This teacher has given us MORE than we could ever possibly handle, MORE than the Pharisees are already crushing us with currently... HELP US, please HELP us!!!!" And then He did. All praise and Glory to the Messiah for what he has done.

You see there is contextual and chronological meaning in that bible you read, and if you understand it for the purpose it was written, you truly will be set free, not just in the life after physical death, but NOW on earth, not bound by the Law and its heavy weight, but free in the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 3:17 : Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.

John 8:36 : So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.

Galatians 5:1: It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm then and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yolk of slavery.

So this is the state of my salvation:

Ephesians 1:13: "In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit."
Romans 11:29: "For the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable"
John 10:28: "I give them eternal life and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand"

So I have: sealed, promised, irrevocable, never and no one will snatch. I would say that is definitive.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

WAIT, WAIT WAIT lose your salvation????? You are a liar and the truth is NOT in you. That is crazy. (But I'm sure you will show me one or two scriptures, that you totally misinterpret, to back your point up.)

Before you do, let me just mention there are a lot more scriptures that CLEARLY show me my salvation cannot be taken away or given away, or lost or whatever garbage you will spew, and if God was so weak that we as mere humans could lose the indwelling Spirit of Him, by some action(s) of ours, then ALL the Power is now OURS.....mwahahahahaha.
Also the only sin left un-forgiven is the Sin of rejecting the Holy Spirit at the point of transaction. Not once the most glorious, mind blowing transaction of the living God has occurred.
I apologize for my hyperactivity in this matter, but Oh MY God. You need help.

welcome to the family, Thanks for joining the many of us who have come before who tried to show certain people those simple truths in Christ.. Good luck.. We will pray for you..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I beg to differ sir.
On the contrary, there is more scripture that suggests otherwise, that it is indeed possible for one to lose their salvation.
If it is impossible for a child of God to lose their salavation, then I think it would be paramount for you to answer an important and pertinent question. That is if you can.
The bible clearly states, we as children of God, are a part of and make up, the body of Christ.

1Co 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Co 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.

So we who are truly born again are in and a part of the body of Christ.
The bible also states that Jesus is the Truth and the Word of God.

Mat 5:29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
Mat 5:30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

If Jesus, who is the Truth and the Word of God, warned and even commanded us to pluck out, cut off, and cast away a member of our body that OFFENDS US, that it perish, rather than the whole body being cast into hell, then wouldn't Jesus be a hypocrite if He did any less to a member of His body that offended Him, than what He commanded us to do?
Would He command us to do anything that He Himself wouldn't do?
I should say, not. Therefore, if you cannot explain away this scripture, since it casts possibly credible doubt for OSAS, it would be reasonable for one to say that it is indeed possible for a child of God to lose their salvation, by being cut off from the body of Christ and cast into hell to perish.
This is just one of the many pages if have accumulated suggesting that once saved might not always be forever saved. There are many scripture verses one has to ignore to believe in OSAS once you become aware of some of the truths of the word of God.
And if I have taken the above scripture our of context or twisted it in any way, then you need to prove that I did, for I did not.

Yes, He loves us conditionally, and yes, He promised those who believe, with the corresponding work, would have eternal life, but not to everyone. For He said, "Not everyone who says to me, or calls me, Lord Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven."
WHY NOT, when they believed as you do?
How can that be when the bible says, "EVERYONE or WHOSOEVER calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved, and to them that believe on His name shall become sons or daughters of God".
One cannot cast out a demon without first believing and calling on the name of Jesus, and yet Jesus said, "I never knew you..."
But this person believed and called on the name of the lord to cast out evil spirits, according to scripture. How then can Jesus justify denying them their salvation when they believed?
What about Judas Iscariot? Wasn't he one of the twelve sent out to heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, and cast out devils?

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

He too believed, like the other, probable with signs following, but to no avail.
So how can scripture guarantee ones salvation by believing and calling on the name of Jesus like Judas did, and yet fail to obtain it?

this is what it looks like when people try to EARN THEIR salvation.

Can it be made any clearer that their faith is in self. and not Christ? How else would one even contemplate that one could lose salvation other than they trust SELF. and reject God..

If one had true faiht in GOD and the cross. they would never make such outlandish statements..

 

[limey410]

welcome to the family, Thanks for joining the many of us who have come before who tried to show certain people those simple truths in Christ.. Good luck.. We will pray for you..

Yes, the awesome thing is that if they have indeed received the gift of the Holy Spirit that "sealed, promised, irrevocable, never and no one will snatch.", applies to them also.

 

[know1]

this is what it looks like when people try to EARN THEIR salvation.

Can it be made any clearer that their faith is in self. and not Christ? How else would one even contemplate that one could lose salvation other than they trust SELF. and reject God..

If one had true faiht in GOD and the cross. they would never make such outlandish statements..

Like a child void of understanding and a child of the devil who cannot receive truth.
Even as I have tried to show you that the works of faith, which is necessary for one to be born again, are not the same as the works of the flesh or of the law, which is what Paul was talking about, and you couldn't see that, neither can you see or understand how it is possible for one to lose their salvation.
The love and grace of God for salvation cannot be earned, but they are indeed conditional, contingent on the condition of the heart, NOT the works of the flesh. I never stated salvation had to be earned. It is by the grace of God THROUGH FAITH. Without faith, there is NO grace. The grace of God might have drawn one to Him, but without receiving Christ personally by faith, with the corresponding work of that belief in Jesus' finished work on the cross, there is no grace. So the grace of God is conditional.

Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

So what if you don't keep His commandments, what would happen to you then? Would you still abide in God's love?
Are you going to quote me that "nothing shall separate us from the love of God..."
Have you notice that YOU are not one of the factors used in that equation?
Jesus clearly stated that He abides in the Father's love BECAUSE of or "even as" He keeps the Father's commandments.
The question one should answer is, what does He mean when He says one is to, "keep My commandments"?
Is that an outward keeping or and inward one?
One is of the flesh, which would be contingent upon their doing something physically, that you might see as earning God's love, and the other would be a matter of the heart. Like one keeping a grudge. It's not a physical thing, but it is something one does with their heart.
Therefore, it is conditional but not earned.

Temptations to Sin
Mat 18:7 Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!
Mat 18:8 Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Mat 18:9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

What about this one? What's this parable about?