nephilim

[garee]

I have no idea what you are trying to say here. Can you clarify? Thanks.

Noah like all of creation lived in a corrupted body revealing the wrath of God..

Roman1: 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Jesus' flesh was not "corrupted". Jesus was without spot (Heb 9:14). Jesus was in all points tempted yet without sin (Heb 4:15).

I did not say he sinned...

The Son of God coming as a theophany Melchedik would not fit the bill. Corrupted flesh was needed for the one time demonstration spoken of, the unseen work of the father and son of in Isaiah 53..

Jesus established the law of faith (the unseen). Something the letter of the law could not do

Romans 8:2-4 King James Version (KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (law of faith) hath made me free from the law of sin and death.(the letter of the law) For what the law (the letter of the law)could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of "sinful flesh", and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

When approached by those you do eulogize sinful flesh in John 6. .Jesus informs us it propfits for nothing. God is simply not a man as us.

What and if ye shall see the Son of man (corrupted flesh and blood) ascend up where he was before? (What if you do not see him anymore?) It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. John 6 :62-63

 

[ckhascall]

I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to this thread about Nephilim, the son's of God and the daughters of men. I think we are all trying to glean as much truth about this subject thereby gaining a better understanding of God's Word. I ran across a bit of good advise that pertains to helping in this ongoing quest and I wanted to share it with you. It goes like this: It shall greatly help you understand the scriptures if you mark; not only what is spoken or written but of whom and to whom, with what words, at what time, where, to what intent, with what circumstances, considering what goeth before and what followeth.

A good example of this method of studying the Bible is the term " sons of God " used in Genesis 6:2, 6:4, Job 1:6, 2:1 and 38:7 all seems to pertain to angles. But in the New Testament the term " sons of God " used in Matthew 5:9, Luke 20:36, Romans 8"14, 8:19 and Gal. 3:26 all seems to pertain to people. It just goes to show you how carefully we must look upon God's word and using these tools can help.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Noah like all of creation lived in a corrupted body revealing the wrath of God..

Roman1: 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

In agreement that Noah was begotten in the likeness and after the image of his own parents. Gen 5:3 explains that all mankind is made in the image/likeness of their parents:

Genesis 5:3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth​

Each generation is born in the likeness and image of the prior generation.

I am not in agreement with you that Rom 1:18 relates to Noah. The wrath of God was revealed against the nephilim ... not Noah and his family.

2 Peter 2:5 tells us that God saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly

Noah was a preacher of righteousness ... the world of the ungodly would be those spoken of in Romans 1:18.

Jesus' flesh was not "corrupted". Jesus was without spot (Heb 9:14). Jesus was in all points tempted yet without sin (Heb 4:15).

I did not say he sinned...

You said "Noah ... [gibberish] ... had corrupted flesh just as did Jesus, the Son of man" in your Post #249.

Jesus did not have "corrupted flesh". Hebrews 2:14 tells us Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.

Jesus only took part ... the part Jesus did not take was the corruption passed down from generation to generation as children are begotten in the image and likeness their parents. Jesus was the image of God (2 Cor 4:4) image of the invisible God (Col 1:15).

When Gabriel appeared to Mary, he told her The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God (Luke 1:35).

The Son of God coming as a theophany Melchedik would not fit the bill. Corrupted flesh was needed for the one time demonstration spoken of, the unseen work of the father and son of in Isaiah 53..

Again, His flesh was not "corrupted". Jesus was without spot or blemish:

1 Peter 1:18-19 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:​

 

[garee]

Each generation is born in the likeness and image of the prior generation.

I am not in agreement with you that Rom 1:18 relates to Noah. The wrath of God was revealed against the nephilim ... not Noah and his family.

2 Peter 2:5 tells us that God saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly

Noah was a preacher of righteousness ... the world of the ungodly would be those spoken of in Romans 1:18.

The wrath of God as in dying you will die represents all on the planet to include the corrupted flesh of Jesus which he said profits for nothing.. .zero

Noah was a preacher of righteousness ..not the righteous one the Son of God . When Jesus the Son of man was called good master as good teacher. he gave glory to our unseen father so that we can walk by faith and not by sight.



Luke 18:18-20 King James Version (KJV) And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

Many sign and wonder seekers turn that upside down as if God was a man as us and look for a fleshly earthly Jesus (no walking by faith the unseen)

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more

Know man can serve "two masters" (impossible) the flesh and the Spirit both .Or the things seen the temporal and the things not seen the eternal.

 

[garee]

You said "Noah ... [gibberish] ... had corrupted flesh just as did Jesus, the Son of man" in your Post #249.

Jesus did not have "corrupted flesh". Hebrews 2:14 tells us Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.

Yes the same kind of flesh inherited from Eve corrupted. I did not say he sinned... [ more gibberish]

It would seem you forget God is not a man as us.

The one time promised outward "demonstration" of a invisible spiritual work of God pouring out His Spirit is over.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

No such things as holiness of the flesh. That's a Catholic teaching by which they crown their Queen of heaven...

The power to believe God is not after his birth . We walk by faith the unseen eternal not after the flesh the temporal seen.

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

No such thing as the "flesh of holiness". (no power)

 

[PennEd]

Yes the same kind of flesh inherited from Eve corrupted. I did not say he sinned... [ more gibberish]

It would seem you forget God is not a man as us.

The one time promised outward "demonstration" of a invisible spiritual work of God pouring out His Spirit is over.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

No such things as holiness of the flesh. That's a Catholic teaching by which they crown their Queen of heaven...

The power to believe God is not after his birth . We walk by faith the unseen eternal not after the flesh the temporal seen.

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

No such thing as the "flesh of holiness". (no power)

This is flat out wrong Garee. Our sin nature, or corrupted flesh, is inherited through ADAM NOT EVE.

This is why Jesus' Father is God. He did not inherit Adam's Y chromosome. The fall is laid at ADAM'S feet, not Eve's. She was HIS responsibility:

Romans 5:12-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
Death in Adam, Life in Christ
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the [a]offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many [b]offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man’s [c]offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)

 

[garee]

This is flat out wrong Garee. Our sin nature, or corrupted flesh, is inherited through ADAM NOT EVE.

This is why Jesus' Father is God. He did not inherit Adam's Y chromosome. The fall is laid at ADAM'S feet, not Eve's. She was HIS responsibility:

Romans 5:12-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
Death in Adam, Life in Christ
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 (For until the law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those who had not sinned according to the likeness of the transgression of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come. 15 But the free gift is not like the [a]offense. For if by the one man’s offense many died, much more the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the one Man, Jesus Christ, abounded to many. 16 And the gift is not like that which came through the one who sinned. For the judgment which came from one offense resulted in condemnation, but the free gift which came from many [b]offenses resulted in justification. 17 For if by the one man’s [c]offense death reigned through the one, much more those who receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.)

It has nothing to do with chromosome as rudiments of this world .(corrupted flesh and blood) That's for the philosophers and their oral traditions of men.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

We walk or understandstand God by faith the unseen eternal. Not by sight after what the eyes see the temporal. As sons of God we are not that in which we will be.

1 John 3:1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

 

[Dino246]

The wrath of God as in dying you will die represents all on the planet to include the corrupted flesh of Jesus which he said profits for nothing.. .zero

When Jesus said "the flesh profiteth nothing", in John 6:63, He was not talking about His physical body. Rather, He was explaining to the disciples His statements regarding His flesh and blood in the context of communion. You are implying things that Jesus simply did not say, and making assertions that are unbiblical.

Many sign and wonder seekers turn that upside down as if God was a man as us and look for a fleshly earthly Jesus (no walking by faith the unseen)

This discussion is not about signs and wonders at all, and what the unnamed and unquoted "many" do is quite thoroughly irrelevant. Jesus did in fact have a body of flesh when He was on earth, and when He was worshiped, He accepted the worship.

Know man can serve "two masters" (impossible) the flesh and the Spirit both .Or the things seen the temporal and the things not seen the eternal.

This is another statement taken out of context (and I'll ignore the blatant spelling error). When Jesus said "No one can serve two masters", He was talking about God and money. We know this for certain, because He said so in the next part of the verse (Matthew 6:24).

 

[garee]

When Jesus said "the flesh profiteth nothing", in John 6:63, He was not talking about His physical body. Rather, He was explaining to the disciples His statements regarding His flesh and blood in the context of communion. You are implying things that Jesus simply did not say, and making assertions that are unbiblical.

Hi thanks for the reply. I see that a little differently..

I would offer. He was talking about what the eyes see.( Now you see me, now you do not...)

The disciples that walked away in unbelief were as it seems hoping for what you are offering. Not mixing faith (Hebrews 4:1-4) they missed the gospel understanding in the parables of that chapter .

In affect he said; what would happen in respect to the gospel the unseen understanding? What if he disappeared out of sight? Would that stop your murmuring?

The gospel was offensive called a "hard saying". Not hard to understand. . again offence to their ears They walked away in un belief.(no faith) Peter confirmed the words of Christ . . . the flesh profits for nothing thou hast the words of eternal life

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. John6: 60-68

 

[garee]

This is another statement taken out of context (and I'll ignore the blatant spelling error). When Jesus said "No one can serve two masters", He was talking about God and money. We know this for certain, because He said so in the next part of the verse (Matthew 6:24).

Its money or God. First commandment have no gods before him that would include us.

 

[Dino246]

Its money or God. First commandment have no gods before him that would include us.

Irrelevant to your earlier comment.

 

[Dino246]

Hi thanks for the reply. I see that a little differently..

I would offer. He was talking about what the eyes see.( Now you see me, now you do not...)

The disciples that walked away in unbelief were as it seems hoping for what you are offering. Not mixing faith (Hebrews 4:1-4) they missed the gospel understanding in the parables of that chapter .

In affect he said; what would happen in respect to the gospel the unseen understanding? What if he disappeared out of sight? Would that stop your murmuring?

The gospel was offensive called a "hard saying". Not hard to understand. . again offence to their ears They walked away in un belief.(no faith) Peter confirmed the words of Christ . . . the flesh profits for nothing thou hast the words of eternal life

Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it? When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him. And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. John6: 60-68

You see it a little differently because you consistently ignore the importance of immediate context.

 

[garee]

You see it a little differently because you consistently ignore the importance of immediate context.

I see the immediate context. Now you see me (the temporal) now you do not. (the eternal) It offended those who were hoping now you see me in a hope that the flesh could profit.

What is your view as to the immediate context? Why was it a hard saying to them?

 

[reneweddaybyday]

The wrath of God as in dying you will die represents all on the planet to include the corrupted flesh of Jesus which he said profits for nothing.. .zero

garee, if the Lord Jesus Christ had not laid His life down, He would still be here on earth in His physical body. John 10:17-18 tells us I lay down my life, that I might take it again. No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

If Jesus had not laid His life down, He would still be alive today because there was no "corrupted flesh of Jesus" (your words).

In John 19:30 we read When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost ... He gave up His life.

In 2 Peter 2:22 we read Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth ... No sin in Him.

Noah was a preacher of righteousness ..not the righteous one the Son of God .

I never said Noah was "the righteous one the Son of God".

In your Post #261, you said

"Noah like all of creation lived in a corrupted body revealing the wrath of God..​

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Roman1: 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;"​

I replied in Post #263 and clarified that Rom 1:18 speaks to those who, in Noah's time, were ungodly. In Noah's time, the nephilim were ungodly. Noah was not ungodly. Noah was a preacher of righteousness.

Did Noah, a preacher of righteousness, suppress the truth in unrighteousness? No!!! In Gen 6:13-21, God told Noah to build an ark and gave Noah the instructions to build the ark. What did Noah do? Noah built the ark. Gen 6:22 Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he. Noah did not suppress the truth in unrighteousness. Noad did according to all that God commanded him.

In our day and time, Rom 1:18 is still true and it speaks to the wrath of God being revealed against those who restrain/suppress the truth in unrighteousness.

Luke 18:18-20 King James Version (KJV) And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God. Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother.

Many sign and wonder seekers turn that upside down as if God was a man as us and look for a fleshly earthly Jesus (no walking by faith the unseen)

You're the one who keeps insisting that Jesus' flesh was corrupt.

2 Corinthians 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more

All this verse is saying is that there were some alive at the time this was written who had known Jesus in His earthly ministry and Christ is no longer known in the flesh but through the Spirit.

It has nothing to do with your assertion that Jesus' flesh was corrupt.

Know man can serve "two masters" (impossible) the flesh and the Spirit both .Or the things seen the temporal and the things not seen the eternal.

This has absolutely nothing to do with your assertion that Jesus' flesh was corrupt.




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[reneweddaybyday]

Yes the same kind of flesh inherited from Eve corrupted. I did not say he sinned...

Jesus did not "inherit" anything from Eve. And Jesus' flesh was not corrupted.

Do you not understand that Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God ... the Lamb without spot or blemish?

If there was any spot or any blemish, the atonement is not complete.

Stop with your insistence that Jesus' flesh was corrupt. Jesus' flesh was not corrupt. He was and ever is the perfect offering.

It would seem you forget God is not a man as us.

says the one who keeps insisting that Jesus' flesh was corrupt.

The one time promised outward "demonstration" of a invisible spiritual work of God pouring out His Spirit is over.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

No such things as holiness of the flesh. That's a Catholic teaching by which they crown their Queen of heaven...

Well, there is such thing as the Lamb of God Who was without spot and without blemish (which is taught in Scripture, the Word of God).

The power to believe God is not after his birth .

Please explain how Jesus could have

... ascended after his resurrection, which was after his crucifixion, which was after He lived His life, which was after His birth ...

if He had not been born. Thank you.

We walk by faith the unseen eternal not after the flesh the temporal seen.

Romans 1:3-5 King James Version (KJV) Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:

No such thing as the "flesh of holiness". (no power)

Please provide the post submitted by me wherein I claimed there was "such thing as the "flesh of holiness" ". thank you.

My instructing you concerning the incorruptness of Jesus in no way supports your contention that I believe there is any "such thing as the "flesh of holiness" " or "holiness of the flesh" . I do believe the Lord Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God ... without spot and without blemish.

 

[Dino246]

I see the immediate context. Now you see me (the temporal) now you do not. (the eternal) It offended those who were hoping now you see me in a hope that the flesh could profit.

What is your view as to the immediate context? Why was it a hard saying to them?

It was a hard saying because the consumption of blood was directly forbidden to the Israelites, and the consumption of human flesh was very likely forbidden at least by custom if not by tradition.

 

[PennEd]

It has nothing to do with chromosome as rudiments of this world .(corrupted flesh and blood) That's for the philosophers and their oral traditions of men.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

We walk or understandstand God by faith the unseen eternal. Not by sight after what the eyes see the temporal. As sons of God we are not that in which we will be.

1 John 3:1Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

This has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
I think Garee, you are venturing very close to blasphemy with this Jesus had corrupted flesh stuff.
I know you live in left field, but this is very bad doctrine. You outta stop it.

 

[garee]

It was a hard saying because the consumption of blood was directly forbidden to the Israelites, and the consumption of human flesh was very likely forbidden at least by custom if not by tradition.

Yes it was forbidden. . . it was to be poured out at the foot of the alter or cross to show spirit life (unseen) was given. Of his own volition the Son of man Jesus working with, submitting to the unseen father gave up the Spirit the essence of life. . . the Spirit returned to the father and was given back after three days. For three days his flesh was prevented from corruption. God cannot die.

The life of the flesh is the unseen Spirit life ,Christ in us . Not Christ is us. Flesh without spirit has no life to offer. We walk by faith the unseen eternal .

Christ gave his Spirit life in jeopardy of His own Spirit . God is Spirit .He is not a man as us.

Its what the parable; eat flesh drink blood represented. To drink it literally would be a abomination. Catholics would say the bread you eat turns into literal blood. And from that develop this queen of heaven abomination they have no faith .

He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. John6:56-57

The spiritual understanding of that parable must be sought out.

After that parable Jesus used his corrupted flesh (all flesh is corrupted ). Sort of like peekaboo. Now you see me, now you do not.
Clearly speaking of what the eyes see, They did not mix faith in what was there right in fron of their eyes . They wanted a fleshly Jesus hoping his flesh could profit. (kill the gentiles)

When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life .John 6 :61-63

What did his flesh typified as sinful profit? Did it supply what the letter of the law could not. Rather having it in respect to faith the unseen eternal . as the things of God. Why make it about what the eyes see the things of men as if God was a man?

 

[garee]

This has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
I think Garee, you are venturing very close to blasphemy with this Jesus had corrupted flesh stuff.
I know you live in left field, but this is very bad doctrine. You outta stop it.

Its a matter of faith. Christ's faith working in us to both to will and work the good pleasure of our God the unseen eternal.

. We have that power in these bodies of death .But are to never think it could come after corrupted flesh and blood .Like that of Peter the serial denier.

Thats were Peter lived . I am more of a pinch runner or base warmer.

Peter eulogizing his own flesh the temporal the things of men (blasphemy) .What the eyes see. And not walking by faith the things of God not seen. All of the apostles at first turned things upside down until they learned how to interpret the parables revealing the unseen things of God.

Note. . . temporal (purple) the things of men as that seen .(no faith)

Note. . .eternal (red) as the things of God not seen .(things of faith)

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, (the unseen things of faith) but those that be of men. (no faith) Mathew 16:22-23

Brother Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man.

The demonstration using the temporal flesh profits for nothing the unseen Spirit as the lamb of God slain from the foundation of the world profits for all.

God is not a man as us. Never was never could be. He is eternal God without mother and father.Without beginning of Holy Spirit life or end thereof. Blasphemy would to say he was a man as us like Peter..

 

[Dino246]

Yes it was forbidden. . . it was to be poured out at the foot of the alter or cross to show spirit life (unseen) was given. Of his own volition the Son of man Jesus working with, submitting to the unseen father gave up the Spirit the essence of life. . . the Spirit returned to the father and was given back after three days. For three days his flesh was prevented from corruption. God cannot die.

The life of the flesh is the unseen Spirit life ,Christ in us . Not Christ is us. Flesh without spirit has no life to offer. We walk by faith the unseen eternal .

Christ gave his Spirit life in jeopardy of His own Spirit . God is Spirit .He is not a man as us.

Its what the parable; eat flesh drink blood represented. To drink it literally would be a abomination. Catholics would say the bread you eat turns into literal blood. And from that develop this queen of heaven abomination they have no faith .

He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me. John6:56-57

The spiritual understanding of that parable must be sought out.

After that parable Jesus used his corrupted flesh (all flesh is corrupted ). Sort of like peekaboo. Now you see me, now you do not.
Clearly speaking of what the eyes see, They did not mix faith in what was there right in fron of their eyes . They wanted a fleshly Jesus hoping his flesh could profit. (kill the gentiles)

When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life .John 6 :61-63

What did his flesh typified as sinful profit? Did it supply what the letter of the law could not. Rather having it in respect to faith the unseen eternal . as the things of God. Why make it about what the eyes see the things of men as if God was a man?

It's not a parable. His flesh was not typified as sinful. Jesus' flesh was not corrupted.