Loss of salvation???

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Kroogz said:
This is the scary part. Most of us have been baptized ( in water.)

But many have not been baptized in the Spirit and count on water.
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The scary part is how do they think they will immerse themself in Jesus? Will they pull Him down from heaven?

Thankfully the Lord is merciful and faithful even when we are not. :)
 
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sawdust said:
The scary part is how do they think they will immerse themself in Jesus? Will they pull Him down from heaven?

Thankfully the Lord is merciful and faithful even when we are not. :)
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What do you think we have to do to be reborn?

Be great if you add scripture to back it up.
 
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Ouch said:
What do you think we have to do to be reborn?

Be great if you add scripture to back it up.
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Acts 16
29 And the jailer asked for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear, he fell down before Paul and Silas; 30 and after he brought them out, he said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31 They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
 
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Kroogz said:
Acts 16
29 And the jailer asked for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear, he fell down before Paul and Silas; 30 and after he brought them out, he said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31 They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
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Its not a good thing to DECEIVE people and not finsih what happend!!

Acts 16:32-33
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32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

Why would you do that?

What do YOU think we have to do to be reborn, be great if you could back it up with scriture!!

Have you received the Holy Ghost like JESUS gave HIS DISCIPLE in Acts 2:4?
 
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Ouch said:
Its not a good thing to DECEIVE people and not finsih what happend!!

Acts 16:32-33
King James Version
32 And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house.

33 And he took them the same hour of the night, and washed their stripes; and was baptized, he and all his, straightway.

Why would you do that?

What do YOU think we have to do to be reborn, be great if you could back it up with scriture!!

Have you received the Holy Ghost like JESUS gave HIS DISCIPLE in Acts 2:4?
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Water?
 
Genez

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Kroogz said:
This is the scary part. Most of us have been baptized ( in water.)

But many have not been baptized in the Spirit and count on water.
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Some have been baptized before they learned to speak.
Too many miss the significance of being baptized by the Spirit.

They are religious.
They destroy the spiritual potential.
 
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John 6 verses 28-29 ~ “What must we do to perform the works of God?” Jesus replied, “The work of God is this: to believe in the One He has sent.”
 
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sawdust said:
Believe in Jesus.

John 6:29
Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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Can I share some scripture with you?

GOD does not hear sinners.

John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

John 3.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot (((see))) the kingdom of God.

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he (((cannot enter))) into the kingdom of God.

If your not REBORN with WATER and of SPIRIT you CANNOT SEE OR ENTER.

The first message JESUS promised to be preached.

Acts 2:38-39
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

Have you ever seen these verses?
 
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Kroogz said:
First and foremost it deprives God of His Justice, righteousness and love.

John 12:32
And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to Myself.”

John 16:8
And He, when He comes, will convict the world regarding sin, and righteousness, and judgment:

1 John 2:2
and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish, but have eternal life.


Ps 9:8
And He will judge the world in righteousness; He will execute judgment for the peoples with equity.


Ps 96:10
Say among the nations, “The LORD reigns; Indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved; He will judge the peoples fairly.”



Acts 16:31
They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
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Interesting.
However, Who was that Scripture speaking to? Was it to all people of This Earth, or to Isreal?
The apostle Paul was sent, To the Gentiles! Prior to that, Only Isreal was addressed.
And when They were addressed, They were given The Kingdom Of Heaven, NOT, The Kigndom of God! There is a VAST DIFFERENCE!
 
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Only Those who have been given eyes to see and ears to hear; will understand the things of: The Kingdom Of God!
Leave The Things of, The Kingdom Of Heaven to Whom It was given!
 
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DeepSeeker said:
Interesting.
However, Who was that Scripture speaking to? Was it to all people of This Earth, or to Isreal?
The apostle Paul was sent, To the Gentiles! Prior to that, Only Isreal was addressed.
And when They were addressed, They were given The Kingdom Of Heaven, NOT, The Kigndom of God! There is a VAST DIFFERENCE!
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I guess the question is who did JESUS die for? The whole world or Israel?

Be great if you could you could provide scripture showing the what is the difference between the Kingdom of GOD and the Kingdom of Heaven.
 
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DeepSeeker said:
Interesting.
However, Who was that Scripture speaking to? Was it to all people of This Earth, or to Isreal?
The apostle Paul was sent, To the Gentiles! Prior to that, Only Isreal was addressed.
And when They were addressed, They were given The Kingdom Of Heaven, NOT, The Kigndom of God! There is a VAST DIFFERENCE!
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So he died and was lifted up just for Israel?
 
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