Loss of salvation???
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The word used in Luke22:44 speaks of: apprehensiveness of mind, esp. when faced with impending ills, distress, anguish (BDAG)
This is mental and emotional distress to the point it was causing physical distress. As I said earlier, He knew where He was headed as the sacrifice. The cup He's asking to be removed was the cup He knew He would soon have to drink - the judgment on the cross.
This is mental and emotional distress to the point it was causing physical distress. As I said earlier, He knew where He was headed as the sacrifice. The cup He's asking to be removed was the cup He knew He would soon have to drink - the judgment on the cross.
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Of course I will. And every believer should.
There is no loss of salvation. Walking away from salvation. Forfeiting salvation......And that is your underlying meaning in EVERY "warning" verse in scripture.
We will lose rewards, crowns, rank, reign, position if we do not endure....We will NEVER perish. We will NEVER come into condemnation. NOTHING separates us from the Love of Christ.
There is no loss of salvation. Walking away from salvation. Forfeiting salvation......And that is your underlying meaning in EVERY "warning" verse in scripture.
We will lose rewards, crowns, rank, reign, position if we do not endure....We will NEVER perish. We will NEVER come into condemnation. NOTHING separates us from the Love of Christ.
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Very much as Studier has, for Jesus was in agony knowing what was ahead of Him, and He was asking God to remove the cup if
it was His will. The Scripture verses I gave attest to the fact that Jesus was struggling with submitting to the will of the Father.
The struggle was between His (Jesus' human) will and the will of the Father.
He knelt down and prayed, “Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done.”
it was His will. The Scripture verses I gave attest to the fact that Jesus was struggling with submitting to the will of the Father.
The struggle was between His (Jesus' human) will and the will of the Father.
He knelt down and prayed, “Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me. Yet not My will, but Yours be done.”
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It is clear by scripture that Christ knew that He was to die and have the sin of many poured out on him. He knew that this was the will of the Father. He knew that none given to him were to be lost. That alone is enough to make even him sweat great drops of blood!
An angel was sent from heaven to strengthen Him for what was about to take place.
An angel was sent from heaven to strengthen Him for what was about to take place.
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Yes, slaves of obedience, not slaves to obedience and we are slaves of obedience when we are led of the Spirit and trust in His word for that is to worship in Spirit and truth, the word is truth. On this we can agree.
It requires submission to God and denial of self which begins on the inside where only God can see. Anyone can look like they're bowing down but no-one but God can know the truth of it. If one is walking in that realm of obedience then they are able to judge spiritual things rightly but one who is not, cannot judge anything. (1 Corinthians 2:15)
The irony in all this is, if one cannot lose one's salvation then those who claim one can, are not walking in truth and therefore cannot judge rightly and vice versa so one has to wonder the point of almost 2,000 posts. (and that's just one thread
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Those who know the Lord know their salvation is secure because He always keeps His word. Those who don't know their salvation is secure can do nothing to save themselves.
It requires submission to God and denial of self which begins on the inside where only God can see. Anyone can look like they're bowing down but no-one but God can know the truth of it. If one is walking in that realm of obedience then they are able to judge spiritual things rightly but one who is not, cannot judge anything. (1 Corinthians 2:15)
The irony in all this is, if one cannot lose one's salvation then those who claim one can, are not walking in truth and therefore cannot judge rightly and vice versa so one has to wonder the point of almost 2,000 posts. (and that's just one thread
) Those who know the Lord know their salvation is secure because He always keeps His word. Those who don't know their salvation is secure can do nothing to save themselves.
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Colossians 2:15
15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
HEB 6:6
and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
It's a one and done scenario.
If you or anyone thinks that the Lord Jesus Christ needs to "do it again" YOU put him to open shame.
15 He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
HEB 6:6
and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame.
It's a one and done scenario.
If you or anyone thinks that the Lord Jesus Christ needs to "do it again" YOU put him to open shame.