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[obedienttogod]

no, you didn't. you posted two images you found, and 'clarified' the abbreviations of three terms by giving their full names.
that's not 'scientific method' - you didn't derive or prove Pythagoras relation, and sin/cos/tan are simply definitions of computed values.

but when i asked for the formula for interpretation of a passage by its chapter-verse data, you said you'd do even better than that, and gave me some elementary or middle school geometry. It remains to be seen what any of that has to do with what I asked for, because the computations you suggested i do aren't even the operations described in those basic trig cheatsheets...?

how is that related to what I asked you?

Hmmm, well the Trig has nothing to do with the chapter times verses at all. We were discussing mathematical formulas and I posted them and described how I use these daily for my employment.

And then I did clarify the chapter times verses.

Are you from the United States?

You sure don't act like it by not understanding our kind of English at all...

 

[posthuman]

Trigonometry was developed after geometry for the purposes of astronomy. Both depend on distances and angles, but trigonometry uses the measurement of angles while geometry deals with angles only in terms of equality of angles and sums of angles.

Egyptians were performing trigonometric calculations to build pyramids at least 2000bc.

i would consider trig a subset / special case of geometry as it is concerned with a special case of triangles, but geometry is in a much broader sense concerned with all types of figures and forms in any number of dimensions, in a more abstract sense rather than a particular instance in a particular dimensional setting of a particular figure.

 

[posthuman]

Hmmm, well the Trig has nothing to do with the chapter times verses at all. We were discussing mathematical formulas and I posted them and described how I use these daily for my employment.

yeah why?

i asked about the secret formula random internet guy used in his conspiracy video (which I haven't watched).

why did you post completely unrelated elementary math and boast about your job?

here and i thought you thought it was relevant. sorry. I assumed you were actually trying to answering my question but I see now you're really not..?

 

[obedienttogod]

Egyptians were performing trigonometric calculations to build pyramids at least 2000bc.

i would consider trig a subset / special case of geometry as it is concerned with a special case of triangles, but geometry is in a much broader sense concerned with all types of figures and forms in any number of dimensions, in a more abstract sense rather than a particular instance in a particular dimensional setting of a particular figure.

Either way, especially pertaining to the Egyptians and their pyramids, science specifically uses Trigonometry daily, not Geometry.

 

[obedienttogod]

yeah why?

i asked about the secret formula random internet guy used in his conspiracy video (which I haven't watched).

why did you post completely unrelated elementary math and boast about your job?

here and i thought you thought it was relevant. sorry. I assumed you were actually trying to answering my question but I see now you're really not..?

I had been answering your question, but you continued that a basic chapter number times verse(s) was not adequate. You acted like I did not comprehend mathematical formulas at all. So, I presumed if you won't accept the basic multiplication of chapter number times verse(s), then I would supply you with some formulas that are relevant to my working environment.

 

[posthuman]

I had been answering your question, but you continued that a basic chapter number times verse(s) was not adequate.

it might well be adequate.
it has nether been proven, justified, nor even demonstrated yet. it hasn't even been unambiguously stated.
'because you say so' isn't adequate justification.

You acted like I did not comprehend mathematical formulas at all. So, I presumed if you won't accept the basic multiplication of chapter number times verse(s), then I would supply you with some formulas that are relevant to my working environment.

don't misrepresent the truth; you started bragging about your job and feeding me middle school math from the moment I asked just to see the equation.

 

[posthuman]

I had been answering your question, but you continued that a basic chapter number times verse(s) was not adequate. You acted like I did not comprehend mathematical formulas at all. So, I presumed if you won't accept the basic multiplication of chapter number times verse(s), then I would supply you with some formulas that are relevant to my working environment.

just to clarify that your statement here is not an accurate description of events:

post #47, i ask for the formula -- no prior conversation from me about it
post #48, you give me 'one better' -- ((what turns out to be)) unrelated middle school trig formula cheat sheet
post #49, you give me chapter times verse = number, but don't tell me what the resultant represents
posts #51-52, 60, 64, 69, giving you the benefit of the doubt i make further inquiries about how posts #48-49 are related, seeking more information about the terse statements in post #49, and begin to ask about the justification/derivation of the supposed formula, using some higher-math terminology and concepts with the presumption that you may understand them.

after this it becomes apparent from your replies that you don't know the vocabulary i'm using or the abstract concepts fundamental to rigorous mathematical proof that i'm asking for. i try to communicate them in simpler terms using analogies related to what you say you do for a living, but i never get any answers even to the most basic questions i ask -- like details of the correlation you say you find. i give concrete examples following what you said was the computation i should perform, and ask for insight on what they show. i never get a response. a few pages go by and you say you had the wrong 'simple formula' all along, so i give an example of it in use, and get a very ambiguous & arbitrary response, that isn't correlated to the calculation.

along the way i correct you in a handful of factual errors unrelated to the main topic i'm pursuing: the math, whether it is verifiable, justifiable and useful.



i think i can reach a few conclusions from the facts:
you are familiar with a certain class of numeric planar geometry expressions
you are not familiar with the concept of mathematical proof
you are unable to address the fundamental questions i have about the topic

the question of whether 'the formula' is valid and/or useful remains open but the existing evidence strongly opposes it.

 

[obedienttogod]

just to clarify that your statement here is not an accurate description of events:

post #47, i ask for the formula -- no prior conversation from me about it
post #48, you give me 'one better' -- ((what turns out to be)) unrelated middle school trig formula cheat sheet
post #49, you give me chapter times verse = number, but don't tell me what the resultant represents
posts #51-52, 60, 64, 69, giving you the benefit of the doubt i make further inquiries about how posts #48-49 are related, seeking more information about the terse statements in post #49, and begin to ask about the justification/derivation of the supposed formula, using some higher-math terminology and concepts with the presumption that you may understand them.

after this it becomes apparent from your replies that you don't know the vocabulary i'm using or the abstract concepts fundamental to rigorous mathematical proof that i'm asking for. i try to communicate them in simpler terms using analogies related to what you say you do for a living, but i never get any answers even to the most basic questions i ask -- like details of the correlation you say you find. i give concrete examples following what you said was the computation i should perform, and ask for insight on what they show. i never get a response. a few pages go by and you say you had the wrong 'simple formula' all along, so i give an example of it in use, and get a very ambiguous & arbitrary response, that isn't correlated to the calculation.

along the way i correct you in a handful of factual errors unrelated to the main topic i'm pursuing: the math, whether it is verifiable, justifiable and useful.



i think i can reach a few conclusions from the facts:
you are familiar with a certain class of numeric planar geometry expressions
you are not familiar with the concept of mathematical proof
you are unable to address the fundamental questions i have about the topic

the question of whether 'the formula' is valid and/or useful remains open but the existing evidence strongly opposes it.

For a simple inspector, you put on one heck of a charade. I am beginning to think you are a woman by the way you conveniently forget what I have posted that did answer your question, and also, how you just repeat yourself over and over and over. I bet you talk to yourself just to hear yourself run your mouth

 

[posthuman]

For a simple inspector, you put on one heck of a charade.

i do a lot of things. i programmed & operated a bevy of CMM droids for a year under a contract. it's not my identity. my current job title is 'analyst' but i once had a job quite some time ago literally picking up trash in a landfill and putting it basically right back where i found it, only bagged. so maybe you can come up with wittier & more interesting ad-hominem insults using that previous short-term vocation ((you're welcome ))

 

[posthuman]

the way you conveniently forget what I have posted that did answer your question

pretty sure i did cover that in post #127

• you gave me a 'wrong' formula
• you later gave me a different one
• when i offered an example of the 'revised formula' you said Psalm 150 is relevant to all believers
  • this had nothing whatsoever to do with the result of 150*6
  • this is true of every single word of scripture regardless of any multiplication

i've been asking for derivation/justification/proof/concrete example of the so-called 'formula' -- i haven't gotten any of that.
i've gotten ambiguous unjustified assertions, off-topic boasting, unrelated elementary trigonometry definitions, unwarranted personal attacks and a number of blatantly false statements about unrelated topics.

 

[obedienttogod]

i do a lot of things. i programmed & operated a bevy of CMM droids for a year under a contract. it's not my identity. my current job title is 'analyst' but i once had a job quite some time ago literally picking up trash in a landfill and putting it basically right back where i found it, only bagged. so maybe you can come up with wittier & more interesting ad-hominem insults using that previous short-term vocation ((you're welcome ))

I see, you area jack of all trades but not a master of any one of them. I believe tat is good thing, however. To be able to wear a multitude of hats without anyone of them actually defining you. That's how it has to be on my farm. My engineering degree only serves so many purposes. On the farm however, I tear off siding and sheathing and adjust window headers if my better half buys bigger or smaller windows. Since we breed and show dogs, I cut out a spot on the pole barn and turned it into a new door, then made a room surrounding the door that included 4 small windows for lighting and another door so you can get into the rest of the barn. Plus added a concrete slab and ran electrical wire for new lighting for later hours. Used the styrofoam insulation and then added shower board because the puppies will remove sheet-rock in a heartbeat.

The county I live in allows 2 things I am tickled pink over but it also has meant serious extra work. You can have any sort of structure that is 120 square feet without a building permit. So, my cows have 3 10x12 buildings, the horses have 2 lean ins (meaning it is 10x12 but it's 2 open sides with 14 foot openings since I have a Belgium Draft), the llamas have 2 10x12 structures, because you have to separate the mother and cria from the other llamas and then of course chicken/turkey/duck houses. I have a regular zoo here but they all need shelter. Part of the reason I built a 60x30 wood shop and bought myself a Saw Stop. I use that saw for 1x4, 2x6, 2x8 boards to frame my structures, plus then I use 8x4 sheathing plus 8x4 siding that needs cut or profiling done to it.

But I definitely understand the concept of jack of all trades and master of none concept!!

 

[obedienttogod]

pretty sure i did cover that in post #127

• you gave me a 'wrong' formula
• you later gave me a different one
• when i offered an example of the 'revised formula' you said Psalm 150 is relevant to all believers
  • this had nothing whatsoever to do with the result of 150*6
  • this is true of every single word of scripture regardless of any multiplication

i've been asking for derivation/justification/proof/concrete example of the so-called 'formula' -- i haven't gotten any of that.
i've gotten ambiguous unjustified assertions, off-topic boasting, unrelated elementary trigonometry definitions, unwarranted personal attacks and a number of blatantly false statements about unrelated topics.

As much time that it seems you have to be on here, taking 10 minutes to watch the video for yourself would explain it from that person point of view. All I have done is take the concept and applied to other chapters and have seen some verses align up to one another. There are 150 chapters in Psalms, but obviously, not all of them tie in with the end of time theme format. Several do, and several seem to align with other concepts. I just only played with a few, and in my spare time, try a few more.

 

[obedienttogod]

Hmm, my keyboard is sticking.

in post #131

area = are a

tat = that