LGBT MOVEMENT CONTINUES TO INFILTRATE CHRISTIAN CHURCHES

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Eli1

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Sorry for the harsh mark. Tolerance is not a word or attitude you will find in God's Word. It's God's way or no way. If you love God you will not continue a sinful lifestyle. We are not sinners, we are saved by grace, we were sinners. We will fail, but we repent and do our best not to do so again. We do not live in sin, we do not live a sinful lifestyle.
You are confusing repentance with acceptance.

I am talking about acceptance not repentance.
 

Eli1

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Just ignore the scripture presented with that worn out response. Can't really discuss anything with someone who says they love Jesus, but don't like His word all too much and defend things contrary to His word.

You seem to have this idea that no one can know whats right or wrong. Who knows if praying to dead people who we dont even know were "saints" or saved wrong? WHO KNOWS? Well, the Bible says we pray to the Father in Jesus' name. Simple. So thats how we know who is WRONG and who isnt and it aint open for interpretation its PLAIN as your nose in the air

Enjoy the deception pal! Hope you stop promoting evil before its too late.
‘If you think this is how you go to heaven, then keep going.
 

Eli1

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No, not subjective. God's Word is never subjective. The Bible is clear. If every one is right then nothing is wrong. No, the Word is true and clear, it is not subjective.
Do you realize what you’re saying?

‘Who is reading the Bible? You? Or God?
 
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kaylagrl

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Also, just like you take a verse from the Bible to support your position, the other side (the gay churches) would take the position that Jesus helped and showed compassion towards a prostitute, a thief / murderer and hung out with the most despicable in the society (back then) like a tax collector.

So how do you know you’re right and they’re wrong?

Jesus did not "hang" with sinners, that is a liberal view to make Jesus seem cool, tolerant and lovable. What did Jesus say to the sinners he "hung" with? Go thy way and sin no more. He showed them they were in sin, he showed them he was the way out of sin, he told them to go and not continue their sinful lifestyle. The Word is always right, always.
 

Eli1

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Jesus did not "hang" with sinners, that is a liberal view to make Jesus seem cool, tolerant and lovable. What did Jesus say to the sinners he "hung" with? Go thy way and sin no more. He showed them they were in sin, he showed them he was the way out of sin, he told them to go and not continue their sinful lifestyle. The Word is always right, always.

Yes again, this is not about repentance but acceptance. :)
 
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kaylagrl

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No, I would not exclude anyone if they come to seek God.
At my church and my Bible study every Friday, we have a mentally challenged guy, a drug addict, the mother of a son who killed himself due to depression, a gay guy who sings at the choir (he hasn’t said it but I know he’s gay), a few elderly, young people in college (who also go to church camp every summer), we have people from Ethiopia, Greece, Ukraine, Albania and many many varieties and colors of people who come to seek God in their own ways.[/QUOTE]


There is only one way to come to God. What does the Bible say?
 

Eli1

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It’s through Jesus of course Kayla. Why, what does your version say?
 

Eli1

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So Kayla this is about an openly gay person, an addict, a suicidal person, a mother who aborted a baby, and many other sinners in different walks of life, coming to your church searching for God because they are hopeless.
‘’And this is where you need to accept them.
‘This is not about you becoming like them.
 

Nehemiah6

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There comes a point when we should not consider them a part of "The Church" anymore. It is Satan's counterfeit congregation.
That would be about right. The LGBTQ Movement is a demonic drive to pervert sex and make all (or any many as possible) into confused sexual beings. The fact that the political and religious "establishments" are promoting it shows that it is no longer a fringe movement but a deliberate attempt to destroy very young children. The entertainment industry is a part of this evil.
 

Blade

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I think, as often happens on this site, is that people talk past one another and never actually come to understand what the other is saying.
I find this terribly unfortunate...especially for Christians.
You would have had "terrible unfortunate" problem also with the 12/120/3000. Yeah see they are righteous holy exactly like you and me are. Yes we tend to read the bible as if they never had any problems disagreements got angry blah blah blah. What you fail to see is all here still love each other :)

Well I don't know any Church off hand that allows this. Its very clear some do yet I don't know anything about the people that go there nor the preacher so be very foolish for me to say anything. Now if there are some strong in the faith then we stand we fight we bend over even get a tad dirty and pick them up stand in the gap for them. How we forget what Christ does for us day in day out. All the sin we do that we "think/believe" is not sin yet oddly He does not condemn does not judge does not tell anyone yet loves you arms open smiling always letting you know you can TRUST Him have FAITH in Him for He is not like us. What good do those Churches do? But you know the sin? Wait.. why are you judging them when you never met them never talked to them never prayed with them yet you know they are in sin? How does allowing gay people to marry cut Christ off and now makes you one or what ever with the Satan?

We really need to get past this "some sins are worse then others". No.. there is no sin that can enter heaven. There is no sin God is ok with that we can do. We tell our self's that lie its no biggie but gay..ooh thats one of the worst. Not written. Abomination yeah that does not move it up some made up scale. Both can put a wall between us and God. Both open the door for the enemy. But Christ never left, still loves you does not condemn you. Think about that. Think of these Churches that you truly know nothing what so ever about. Don't know the preachers.. are they crying out to God how they missed it and can't find the strength to stand against it and say no. Yeah tell me in this walk you never been there before. These are times when we find those strong in the faith and those that are not. Its easy to stand when looking at others as they are falling. Easy to say "by his strips I am healed" but when the enemy comes in hard and strong when its so dark you can't see God hear God feel God.. yet you stand strong.. knowing all things are possible for you by Christ Jesus. Standing when your whole body is screaming in pain yet you your praising Him worshiping Him.

Its how we stand in those moments. There are so many things happening to the believers in this world that as of right now no one but no one has posted a word. I get emails on this how some are even fighting for us in the courts. You know how they (world) won one court battle for banning prayer? yeah here in the USA. Or passed that law to abort up to 28 days after birth.. you know that law where no one has a right to even question them as to why that baby was aborted. This is nothing not even touched whats going on around the world.

So what would I do? I am fully against same sex marriage. Yet I am not that preacher. I don't know why they did what they did. But I will not stop helping praying for them standing in the gap for them. If it was you what would want? Toss under the buss. Or someone praying for you even though you some how for some reason believe what your doing is not a sin. Yeah after all is said and done the reward (not the reason we did what we did) for never giving up...always fighting against the enemy for lying deceiving our family. I can understand how a great man of God once said about Catholics. "Can't they be wrong about Mary yet right about Christ?". I am not 100% right in all I believe haha. Why I always say Father forgive me for sins I don't remember that I should repent for but hold them not to my charge. So pray for them speak words of life. Easy to say things standing on the outside.. but when its you there...then its a different world
 

Dino246

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The United Methodist Church is abandoning Scriptural teachings on marriage and homosexuality and incorporating political LGBT correctness instead.
The same thing happened in Canada's United Church about 30 years ago.
 

Nehemiah6

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The fact that the political and religious "establishments" are promoting it shows that it is no longer a fringe movement but a deliberate attempt to destroy very young children.
Rachel Levine Calls on Doctors to Become ‘Ambassadors’ to Normalize Transgenderism
https://www.breitbart.com/social-ju...-become-ambassadors-normalize-transgenderism/

The medical establishments worldwide corrupted themselves with all the COVID lies. So the lie about transgenderism will be easy to promote. The real issue is whether all parents are aware that their children have been targeted for DESTRUCTION AND DAMNATION.
 

Cameron143

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You would have had "terrible unfortunate" problem also with the 12/120/3000. Yeah see they are righteous holy exactly like you and me are. Yes we tend to read the bible as if they never had any problems disagreements got angry blah blah blah. What you fail to see is all here still love each other :)

Well I don't know any Church off hand that allows this. Its very clear some do yet I don't know anything about the people that go there nor the preacher so be very foolish for me to say anything. Now if there are some strong in the faith then we stand we fight we bend over even get a tad dirty and pick them up stand in the gap for them. How we forget what Christ does for us day in day out. All the sin we do that we "think/believe" is not sin yet oddly He does not condemn does not judge does not tell anyone yet loves you arms open smiling always letting you know you can TRUST Him have FAITH in Him for He is not like us. What good do those Churches do? But you know the sin? Wait.. why are you judging them when you never met them never talked to them never prayed with them yet you know they are in sin? How does allowing gay people to marry cut Christ off and now makes you one or what ever with the Satan?

We really need to get past this "some sins are worse then others". No.. there is no sin that can enter heaven. There is no sin God is ok with that we can do. We tell our self's that lie its no biggie but gay..ooh thats one of the worst. Not written. Abomination yeah that does not move it up some made up scale. Both can put a wall between us and God. Both open the door for the enemy. But Christ never left, still loves you does not condemn you. Think about that. Think of these Churches that you truly know nothing what so ever about. Don't know the preachers.. are they crying out to God how they missed it and can't find the strength to stand against it and say no. Yeah tell me in this walk you never been there before. These are times when we find those strong in the faith and those that are not. Its easy to stand when looking at others as they are falling. Easy to say "by his strips I am healed" but when the enemy comes in hard and strong when its so dark you can't see God hear God feel God.. yet you stand strong.. knowing all things are possible for you by Christ Jesus. Standing when your whole body is screaming in pain yet you your praising Him worshiping Him.

Its how we stand in those moments. There are so many things happening to the believers in this world that as of right now no one but no one has posted a word. I get emails on this how some are even fighting for us in the courts. You know how they (world) won one court battle for banning prayer? yeah here in the USA. Or passed that law to abort up to 28 days after birth.. you know that law where no one has a right to even question them as to why that baby was aborted. This is nothing not even touched whats going on around the world.

So what would I do? I am fully against same sex marriage. Yet I am not that preacher. I don't know why they did what they did. But I will not stop helping praying for them standing in the gap for them. If it was you what would want? Toss under the buss. Or someone praying for you even though you some how for some reason believe what your doing is not a sin. Yeah after all is said and done the reward (not the reason we did what we did) for never giving up...always fighting against the enemy for lying deceiving our family. I can understand how a great man of God once said about Catholics. "Can't they be wrong about Mary yet right about Christ?". I am not 100% right in all I believe haha. Why I always say Father forgive me for sins I don't remember that I should repent for but hold them not to my charge. So pray for them speak words of life. Easy to say things standing on the outside.. but when its you there...then its a different world
So...people do or don't talk past each other? I don't love people here or I do? I'm for or against sinners?
I'm not sure what you are implying concerning me.
 

Pilgrimshope

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There comes a point when we should not consider them a part of "The Church" anymore. It is Satan's counterfeit congregation.
Amen if the church values change to meet the worlds values eg “ same sex relationships and marriage , transgenderism “ is perfectly acceptable to God ( even though he specifically says it’s an abomination to him )

we can see who they are serving and worshipping “a church of humanism “
 
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The United Methodist Church is abandoning Scriptural teachings on marriage and homosexuality and incorporating political LGBT correctness instead.

439 Texas churches split from United Methodist Church as slow-motion schism continues: 439 Texas churches split from United Methodist Church as slow-motion schism continues (msn.com)

And the Methodists aren't the only Denominations falling to the LGBT agenda:

The Evangelical Lutheran Church of America allows same-sex couples to get married, but leaves it up to individual ministers of congregations to decide, according to a 2009 resolution. “There is nothing that prescribes who a congregation pastor can marry or not marry, so long as it is consistent with state law,” ELCA Secretary David Swartling said in 2012.

The Episcopal Church established a rite of blessing for same-sex couples in 2012 and prohibited discrimination against transgender people. It has welcomed gay people since 1976, when its General Convention decided that “homosexual persons are children of God who have a full and equal claim with all other persons upon the love, acceptance, and pastoral concern and care of the Church.” Technically it has no official policy sanctioning same-sex marriage, but it will take up the issue in June.

The United Church of Christ has allowed same-sex couples to get married since 2005. At the 25th General Synod of the United Church of Christ in Atlanta, it “affirm[ed] equal marriage rights for couples regardless of gender and declares that the government should not interfere with couples regardless of gender who choose to marry and share fully and equally in the rights, responsibilities and commitment of legally recognized marriage.” It was the first major Protestant denomination to do so.
What does the word
 
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What does the word of God have to say about homosexuality and same sex marriage? Lev 20:13, Rom 1:26-27. Are the churches listening to God or to the political correctness of men?
 

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What does the word of God have to say about homosexuality and same sex marriage? Lev 20:13, Rom 1:26-27. Are the churches listening to God or to the political correctness of men?
Maybe scared of running in with the societal law and so be PC for safety.