Jesus say: to be save you have to do good
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They cannot accept the problem of a believer who falls away or of sin threatening our souls.
1 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently.
But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted.
2 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.
3 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
Gal 6
Put simply if a brother is always in sin, there is no restoration, there is no watching yourself,
because one is always tempted and fallen, so purity and holiness is never achieved.
Because they equate their faith to that of Paul, Paul cannot be meaning sin is to be avoided
or conquered it is just like a ice hockey match, in the sin bin for 5 minutes and then let out.
It means most of the encouragements and warnings go over their heads like they are just
not spoken and certainly have no impact as restitution was never achieved in the first place,
so you cannot fall or be restored to something one never had.
To them it is just the initial point of faith and its repetition. Their minds are literally closed
off to another view, because anything else would be so catastrophic, it would be like an
earth quake, and they would be terrified that anything would remain. I mean look at what
they have built and the life they are secure in. It would all then be up to question, and that
definitely is a step too far. God bless you.
1 Brothers, if someone is caught in a sin, you who are spiritual should restore him gently.
But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted.
2 Carry each other's burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ.
3 If anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself.
Gal 6
Put simply if a brother is always in sin, there is no restoration, there is no watching yourself,
because one is always tempted and fallen, so purity and holiness is never achieved.
Because they equate their faith to that of Paul, Paul cannot be meaning sin is to be avoided
or conquered it is just like a ice hockey match, in the sin bin for 5 minutes and then let out.
It means most of the encouragements and warnings go over their heads like they are just
not spoken and certainly have no impact as restitution was never achieved in the first place,
so you cannot fall or be restored to something one never had.
To them it is just the initial point of faith and its repetition. Their minds are literally closed
off to another view, because anything else would be so catastrophic, it would be like an
earth quake, and they would be terrified that anything would remain. I mean look at what
they have built and the life they are secure in. It would all then be up to question, and that
definitely is a step too far. God bless you.
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So you say we judge not because what we done but what Christ done, am I correct
Then you say even if we done something wrong we still go to heaven, not losing our salvation.
Matt25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Seem to me Jesus as a judge inform us that in the last judgment He judge base on what man did,
Not on what He did.
And because the man did wrong they lose their salvation not only reward.
Verse 41 ......... ye curse into everlasting fire
Not only lose the reward, but into everlasting fire or lose their salvation.
Then you say even if we done something wrong we still go to heaven, not losing our salvation.
Matt25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Seem to me Jesus as a judge inform us that in the last judgment He judge base on what man did,
Not on what He did.
And because the man did wrong they lose their salvation not only reward.
Verse 41 ......... ye curse into everlasting fire
Not only lose the reward, but into everlasting fire or lose their salvation.
I am not, but every time I did sin, I know it is sin. I just did sin, I ask money to the person that owe me, that person keep promise to pay in an , since last Thursday , to make her pay me, I lie to her that I need ,
Money for my family food. But than Holy Spirit remind me in my heart do not lie. Than I ask God to forgive me and learn not to lie
Money for my family food. But than Holy Spirit remind me in my heart do not lie. Than I ask God to forgive me and learn not to lie
I agree, seem to me if not repent and do His will, we go to hell
Matt 25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Matt 25
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Jesus also preach salvation by faith
John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
And some time Jesus make law that is harder than Moses
Matthew 5:27-28 King James Version (KJV)
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
I was think Jesus make easier than Old Testament, but some time harder
John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
And some time Jesus make law that is harder than Moses
Matthew 5:27-28 King James Version (KJV)
27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
I was think Jesus make easier than Old Testament, but some time harder
Not sure what you are trying to say in your post but I will point out that Christ working in us both to will and do of His good pleasure has nothing to do with imputed righteousness. Imputed righteousness is where we are declared righteous on account of faith in Jesus Christ. It has zero to do with our own works or good deeds.
Not every evening but every time I make sin, the Holy Spirit remind me on the spot, than I ask for forgiveness.
And I believe if I am not remember, Holy Spirit remind me, that is what the Bible say about Holy Spirit do.
Christianity come to my town in Indonesia was because the Chinese businessman and he also leader of Chinese temple in town accept Jesus.
He accept Jesus because his rich uncle from another town receive Jesus. His uncle was diabetes, paralyze and it happen in the late 1800 when the doctor not as smart as now.
He went to Europe, and china to find good doctor, but not successfully, one preacher from Salvation Army pray for him and he walk on the spot, he preach to 2000 people that work work in his company. He preach to his family, than his nephew accept Jesus.
He to pray for the sick like his uncle and convert a lot of people include my family.
He die when I was about 24 years old.
One day he blind. And he told to people that his blindness is temporary. His blindness is from the Lord because he saw pretty woman and think about having sex with her.
He never have a sex with her, only think in his heart.
So I believe Holy Spirit remind us when we sin.
Not every people that commit adultery in his heart blind, but it may because he is a leader God do heavier punishment because a lot of people follow him, include the mayor at that time.
And I believe if I am not remember, Holy Spirit remind me, that is what the Bible say about Holy Spirit do.
Christianity come to my town in Indonesia was because the Chinese businessman and he also leader of Chinese temple in town accept Jesus.
He accept Jesus because his rich uncle from another town receive Jesus. His uncle was diabetes, paralyze and it happen in the late 1800 when the doctor not as smart as now.
He went to Europe, and china to find good doctor, but not successfully, one preacher from Salvation Army pray for him and he walk on the spot, he preach to 2000 people that work work in his company. He preach to his family, than his nephew accept Jesus.
He to pray for the sick like his uncle and convert a lot of people include my family.
He die when I was about 24 years old.
One day he blind. And he told to people that his blindness is temporary. His blindness is from the Lord because he saw pretty woman and think about having sex with her.
He never have a sex with her, only think in his heart.
So I believe Holy Spirit remind us when we sin.
Not every people that commit adultery in his heart blind, but it may because he is a leader God do heavier punishment because a lot of people follow him, include the mayor at that time.
The point others, as well as myself, are trying to raise to you here is that believers, once purified, are not supposed to be conscious of sins (Hebrews 10:2).
Jesus does not want you to be conscious of your sins, because if you are, it means you are implying his sacrifice for your sins is at the same level of the OT animal sacrifices.
You are suppose to live your life not conscious of sins, instead you should be conscious that you are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
Now, will that cause believers to go ahead and sin more? We believe that will not happen, but you seem to have evidence that there are some believers who do. Our advice is to focus, not on them, but on yourself.
Jesus does not want you to be conscious of your sins, because if you are, it means you are implying his sacrifice for your sins is at the same level of the OT animal sacrifices.
You are suppose to live your life not conscious of sins, instead you should be conscious that you are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus.
Now, will that cause believers to go ahead and sin more? We believe that will not happen, but you seem to have evidence that there are some believers who do. Our advice is to focus, not on them, but on yourself.
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John 14:26 King James Version (KJV)
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
This is what I believe
Holy Spirit will teach us a lot of thing, include remind us when our sin may endanger us, like what happen to a man in my town that preach the gospel and bring Christianity in my town.
He start with adultery in his heart, God make him temporary blind. If not, he may come to that woman and sleep with her, and the whole town know what he did, than not good for Christianity in my town.
My friend tell me, why he build church in my town.
He say, after accept the Lord, he pray, than the Lord give him a vision, he see an incense burner, as ex temple leader he know, it mean a place of worship.
He is rich man, have a lot of land and money, so he build the church on his land, and pay all for the building from his own money.
See Holy Spirit teach him every thing include ask him to build church.
The church was a bout 6 mile from where I live.
Than Holy Spirit move the old rich lady to build the church close to my house.
I know that is Holy Spirit, because out of blue, she build the church.
When the church about 3 feet high from the foundation, she come to my uncle. She bring a lot of gold and say, when I die sale the gold,use this gold to finish the building
Next morning she die.
Holy Spirit teach us and tell us what to do, it may not in audible language but speak in our heart
26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
This is what I believe
Holy Spirit will teach us a lot of thing, include remind us when our sin may endanger us, like what happen to a man in my town that preach the gospel and bring Christianity in my town.
He start with adultery in his heart, God make him temporary blind. If not, he may come to that woman and sleep with her, and the whole town know what he did, than not good for Christianity in my town.
My friend tell me, why he build church in my town.
He say, after accept the Lord, he pray, than the Lord give him a vision, he see an incense burner, as ex temple leader he know, it mean a place of worship.
He is rich man, have a lot of land and money, so he build the church on his land, and pay all for the building from his own money.
See Holy Spirit teach him every thing include ask him to build church.
The church was a bout 6 mile from where I live.
Than Holy Spirit move the old rich lady to build the church close to my house.
I know that is Holy Spirit, because out of blue, she build the church.
When the church about 3 feet high from the foundation, she come to my uncle. She bring a lot of gold and say, when I die sale the gold,use this gold to finish the building
Next morning she die.
Holy Spirit teach us and tell us what to do, it may not in audible language but speak in our heart
Interesting that you immediately interpret all things as remind you of sin, but it looks like your mind is made up in this.
In the same Hebrews book, there is a part where it explicitly stated what the Holy Spirit will remind believers of regarding to sin, in chapter 10
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
If you want to believe that the Holy Spirit will remind the believers of sin, I think you got this passage and the passage in John mixed up. There is only one sin the Holy Spirit will remind the unbeliever of, which is the sin of not believing in Jesus. (John 16:8-9)
In the same Hebrews book, there is a part where it explicitly stated what the Holy Spirit will remind believers of regarding to sin, in chapter 10
15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;
17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
If you want to believe that the Holy Spirit will remind the believers of sin, I think you got this passage and the passage in John mixed up. There is only one sin the Holy Spirit will remind the unbeliever of, which is the sin of not believing in Jesus. (John 16:8-9)
I am not deeply investigate about what kind of sin Holy Spirit warn us from the Bible, but I heard about Holy Spirit talk and remind people from YouTube. Holy Spirit speak through vision and dream to some people like in the Bible. Some time to non Christian like the king of agyp
Seem to me Holy Spirit talk to some Muslim every where. If you go to YouTube, a lot of Muslim accept Jesus because of dream or visions
And I believe Holy Spirit remind us not to sin
Seem to me Holy Spirit talk to some Muslim every where. If you go to YouTube, a lot of Muslim accept Jesus because of dream or visions
And I believe Holy Spirit remind us not to sin