Is the Great Commission irrelevant for the church now?
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""Strange that you are making this into such a big deal. If you think about it, it made perfect sense to keep that revelation of the dbr was deliberately kept as a secret, a mystery that only revealed to the Apostle Paul. if that mystery was revealed then, Satan would not have allowed Jesus to be crucified (1 Cor 2:8). ""
Jesus knew it and wrote the nt.
The apostles knew it as did the early church born ahead of Paul.
The more I dig,the more outlandish you are forced to reply.
I can tell you where the error is. It is in downgrading the non pauline writings.
Jesus knew it and wrote the nt.
The apostles knew it as did the early church born ahead of Paul.
The more I dig,the more outlandish you are forced to reply.
I can tell you where the error is. It is in downgrading the non pauline writings.
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If you felt that way, that is unfortunate. But I cannot control how others choose to respond when they read my post.
Here, people have claimed numerous times that I am not truly saved, I am a child of the devil and so on and so forth. If I were to be upset by these remarks, there is really no point in debating in Internet forums.
Here, people have claimed numerous times that I am not truly saved, I am a child of the devil and so on and so forth. If I were to be upset by these remarks, there is really no point in debating in Internet forums.
EG's style is his way or you are wrong, not just wrong, but against God.
The idea you discover someone elses logic and interpretation to be able to be empathetic
and love the individual is simply not part of the agenda.
Being in a bunker, fighting the enemy to the end, is more their picture in their hearts. To give
even a little is deemed demonic and defeat. I have seen fanaticism, and this its approach.
It is like talking to flat earthers, you are part of the conspiracy if you do not accept their view,
and you know they are right, and choose to deceive, not that they could actually be simply mistaken,
and self deceived for their own personal reasons. I know always, I can be caught by my own understanding
because we always justify our own understanding, no matter how flawed. We know we are alive when we
are prepared to put that belief on the line, that for me is true faith in Jesus.
The idea you discover someone elses logic and interpretation to be able to be empathetic
and love the individual is simply not part of the agenda.
Being in a bunker, fighting the enemy to the end, is more their picture in their hearts. To give
even a little is deemed demonic and defeat. I have seen fanaticism, and this its approach.
It is like talking to flat earthers, you are part of the conspiracy if you do not accept their view,
and you know they are right, and choose to deceive, not that they could actually be simply mistaken,
and self deceived for their own personal reasons. I know always, I can be caught by my own understanding
because we always justify our own understanding, no matter how flawed. We know we are alive when we
are prepared to put that belief on the line, that for me is true faith in Jesus.
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Once reprobates start not fearing God, His word means nothing and sinful justification becomes their
gospel. When a preacher can stand up and say, they are a god, or they are Jesus, or dead believers have
messages to speak to living believers, you begin to see how easily man can be truly lost and deceived.
gospel. When a preacher can stand up and say, they are a god, or they are Jesus, or dead believers have
messages to speak to living believers, you begin to see how easily man can be truly lost and deceived.
No worries, debates on Internet forums are like that. One good thing about engaging with strangers over the Internet is this, you get to interact with people with very different views of life. Often the friends you meet in your daily life either think very much the same as you, for example church friends, or are unwilling to engage you in any deep intellectual topics. Furthermore, because you know one another in real life, the conversation is often very polite and you won’t really know what the other person really thinks.
But on the Internet, you solve both problems. First, you get to engage with people who think very differently from you. Second, because you will not meet each other in real life, you often get very frank opinions being shared.
There is a flip side to that second point of course, when you know for sure you will never meet them in real life, its much easier for some of them to start insulting you and making other personal remarks while debating, that is unfortunate but is something that is beyond your control.
What is under your control is your own response and I can see the silver lining behind it, it teaches you not to repay like for like, but rather, trains you to truly understand that, you can only control your response to whatever life throws at you.
But the good thing of course, is that only with debating others, that you have an incentive to understand more the other party’s view of the issue, and whether or not you agree with them in the end, your knowledge base expands.
But on the Internet, you solve both problems. First, you get to engage with people who think very differently from you. Second, because you will not meet each other in real life, you often get very frank opinions being shared.
There is a flip side to that second point of course, when you know for sure you will never meet them in real life, its much easier for some of them to start insulting you and making other personal remarks while debating, that is unfortunate but is something that is beyond your control.
What is under your control is your own response and I can see the silver lining behind it, it teaches you not to repay like for like, but rather, trains you to truly understand that, you can only control your response to whatever life throws at you.
But the good thing of course, is that only with debating others, that you have an incentive to understand more the other party’s view of the issue, and whether or not you agree with them in the end, your knowledge base expands.
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I like this environment, because what is at stake is only my perspective. After interactions, the other
parties are only going to be effected in their positions. It is not like there are other interactions I have
with anyone here. So I can explore positions with people who sincerely hold them, and test to see how
robust or otherwise they are.
This truly shows how much faith one has and how well you can explore the dynamics of ideas. The more
open and accepting, the more one shows confidence in ones foundations. Rooted and grounded in Christ,
with good fruit, a loving heart, nothing can cause one to stumble.
parties are only going to be effected in their positions. It is not like there are other interactions I have
with anyone here. So I can explore positions with people who sincerely hold them, and test to see how
robust or otherwise they are.
This truly shows how much faith one has and how well you can explore the dynamics of ideas. The more
open and accepting, the more one shows confidence in ones foundations. Rooted and grounded in Christ,
with good fruit, a loving heart, nothing can cause one to stumble.
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You miss the picture.
1. NO ONE has to prove their faith. So why are you asking?
2. James said ANY work or action is enough to prove ones faith
3. As scripture also says, You know them by their deeds.
So in any dispensation in any time, People who have true faith (and this are saved by that FAITH ALONE, will be known because they do not live like the world. Not because they do some religious function. Anyone can do those things, they do not prove anything.
1. NO ONE has to prove their faith. So why are you asking?
2. James said ANY work or action is enough to prove ones faith
3. As scripture also says, You know them by their deeds.
So in any dispensation in any time, People who have true faith (and this are saved by that FAITH ALONE, will be known because they do not live like the world. Not because they do some religious function. Anyone can do those things, they do not prove anything.
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If you believe that salvation is always by grace thru faith, like me, I am actually asking you a very simple question, that I don't see why you are refusing to answer. I even provided the scripture for you.
How did Rahab put her faith in God's grace as stated in Hebrews 11? Was it
by trusting in Jesus's DBR, or
by hiding the spies?
How did Rahab put her faith in God's grace as stated in Hebrews 11? Was it
by trusting in Jesus's DBR, or
by hiding the spies?
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I disagree they are like that some choose to make it that way because they know they will not see the person, that emboldens them to be more confrontational.
Rahab fears the Lord God helped the spies out of faith in the God of Israel. I think she even said that. remember me. I will bless those who bless you? Rehab without knowing the God of Isreal still would be saved from destruction because she helped the People of God.
Rahab fears the Lord God helped the spies out of faith in the God of Israel. I think she even said that. remember me. I will bless those who bless you? Rehab without knowing the God of Isreal still would be saved from destruction because she helped the People of God.
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So when the Lord commanded water baptism for salvation thru John the Baptist and Peter in the 4 Gospels and early Acts, how does one show faith in the Lord? Get water baptized out of faith in God's word. Rahab could not have shown faith by getting water baptized because that revelation has not been revealed to her yet. There was only one way she could have showed her faith, that is to hide the spies.
Why is it so difficult to accept that, under the GOK, water baptism is required for salvation? Not that water can save you, but it shows you put your faith in God. Mark 16:16 is repeated by Peter in Acts 2:38
But now under the GOG, you put your faith in God by resting from all works and trust in Jesus completed work at the cross to make you righteous.
Why is it so difficult to accept that, under the GOK, water baptism is required for salvation? Not that water can save you, but it shows you put your faith in God. Mark 16:16 is repeated by Peter in Acts 2:38
But now under the GOG, you put your faith in God by resting from all works and trust in Jesus completed work at the cross to make you righteous.
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The OP is saying there are two different Gospels, that is flat out false doctrine. Case closed, period. One Gospel,One way to be saved for all. Any other way is false. EG is not wrong and he and I totally disagree on certain subjects yet we have still remained friends the entire time I've been here. I respect EG and there are many things we agree on. The OP is flat out wrong in this case.
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