Is the false teaching of pre-tribulation rapture, getting the power of "him" out of the way, who restrains the antichrist?

[Jackson123]

* After the church has been resurrected and caught up, there will be people from every nation, tribe, people and language, who will become believers during the time of God's wrath referred to as the great tribulation saints. This group is not the church, but are those who will become believers after the church has been gathered (Revelation 7:9-17, 13:5-7, 20:4-6)

Non of these verse say great tribulation after rapture.

 

[KJV1611]

Are you talking about someone telling you that English translations don't always carry the same shades of meaning as the original languages? And sometimes mistakes are made such as translating a Greek world for an oil fed lampstand into the English word candlestick which were not even used until the middle ages? That is not the corporate church that is being educated.

Yes, that called NOT KEEPING his word.

 

[Jackson123]

The resurrection was his second coming to this world. Jesus will come again for each of us just prior to the death of this body.

So you believe second coming happen 2000 years ago?

 

[Jackson123]

Yes.... notice the words WE

For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:14‭-‬17 KJV

It didn't say before tribulation.

 

[KJV1611]

So you believe second coming happen 2000 years ago?

Yes, Jesus came in all power and glory as King of kings and Lord of lords at the resurrection.

 

[Truth7t7]

Jesus will come for me just like he came for Stephen and all the rest of his people. And yes I do believe when he comes for me I’ll get my glorified body right there on the spot and so shall I ever be with the lord.

You believe the second coming is at a persons personal death, and you dont believe in a future bodily resurrection of all in the general resurrection.

Your belief is (Full Preterism)

 

[Truth7t7]

So you believe second coming happen 2000 years ago?

He denies a future second coming of Jesus Christ in the heavens, he denies a future bodily resurrection of the believer

His belief is (Full Preterism)

 

[KJV1611]

You believe the second coming is at a persons personal death, and you dont believe in a future bodily resurrection of all in the general resurrection.

Your belief is (Full Preterism)

The Bible plainly says that the dead in Christ rose when Christ rose and that we that are alive and remain will never die. Why would you go against that?

 

[Jackson123]

Yes, Jesus came in all power and glory as King of kings and Lord of lords at the resurrection.

At the resurrection 2000 years ago He came for a few days, than back to heaven
Do you believe He will come again ?

 

[KJV1611]

He denies a future second coming of Jesus Christ in the heavens, he denies a future bodily resurrection of the believer

His belief is (Full Preterism)

I don’t even know what a preterist is. I’m a bible believing Christian, that’s all I can say.

 

[Jackson123]

He denies a future second coming of Jesus Christ in the heavens, he denies a future bodily resurrection of the believer

His belief is (Full Preterism)

Yep, it is unbiblical.

 

[KJV1611]

At the resurrection 2000 years ago He came for a few days, than back to heaven
Do you believe He will come again ?

I believe he will come to get us but I don't see anywhere in scripture where he comes here to again. Why would he come back?

 

[Truth7t7]

Yep, it is unbiblical.

I Agree 100%

To deny the future visible second coming of Jesus Christ and bodily resurrection is unbiblical and heretical in my opinion.

 

[KJV1611]

I Agree 100%

To deny the future visible second coming of Jesus Christ and bodily resurrection is unbiblical and heretical in my opinion.

Show me this future second coming in the bible and I'll believe it.

 

[Truth7t7]

I believe he will come to get us but I don't see anywhere in scripture where he comes here to again. Why would he come back?

I'm only posting this, to expose your belief to the forum, I believe the unaware have a right to know your belief

The bible clearly teaches Jesus Christ returns visibly to earth from the heavens.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

[Jackson123]

I don’t even know what a pewter isn’t is. I’m a bible believing Christian, that’s all I can say.

Paul wrote a letter after resurrection, why Paul expect second coming?

1 tes 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Descent from heaven

When? In His resurrection? It was ascended to not descend from

 

[KJV1611]

I'm only posting this, to expose your belief to the forum, I believe the unaware have a right to know your belief

The bible clearly teaches Jesus Christ return visibly to the earth from the heavens.

Matthew 24:29-30KJV
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

According to the Mazzaroth, when did the sign of the son of man appear in heaven?

 

[KJV1611]

Paul wrote a letter after resurrection, why Paul expect second coming?

1 tes 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Descent from heaven

When? In His resurrection? It was ascended to not descend from

Mat 28:2 And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
Mat 28:3 His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:

Who is The Angel of the Lord, not AN angel of the Lord but The Angel of the Lord?

 

[AlmondJoy]

It didn't say before tribulation.

well, if paul preached Jesus could come back at any time undoubtedly he figured on getting out of here at the beginning of the tribulation.

 

[KJV1611]

Paul wrote a letter after resurrection, why Paul expect second coming?

1 tes 4
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Descent from heaven

When? In His resurrection? It was ascended to not descend from

When WERE the Old Testament saints, those that were dead in Christ, when were they raised?